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Hi,

I would like to see if anyone has had a similar experience.

#1- 14 day funds payment initiated, confirmation email of transfer to bank account received. Friday 3pm pacific

#2- Saturday the next day, everything fine till at least 11 pm when I went to bed

#3 sometime on sunday, account deleted, cant log in

Anyone had similar experience, with the regular payment intiating, then after the account gets deleted?

Anyone had any experience to know if that payment is going to show up in my bank account, or am I SOL?

Mike

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The funds may or may not show up. If they are not there on their normal day, then I doubt they will show up. Amazon WILL stop the transfer, or try to pull it back if they can.

If the funds DO show up in your bank account, withdraw them IMMEDIATELY because Amazon WILL try to debit your account for them. And when an account is deleted, they will NEVER release the funds. Well, ALMOST never. Some people have had some success by getting an attorney involved. But I wouldn't get my hopes up.

Also, you may want to close the account once you have the funds, or a few days after it is clear they are not coming. Or, at least make sure there is NO overdraft protection. Because if Amazon decides to debit your account, you will be out THAT money too. Either that or you leave the bank holding the bag in which case you will find it difficult to get another bank account for a long time.

We have never figured out EXACTLY what triggers deletions, but it looks like Amazon only deletes accounts when they are almost certain a ⊗⊗⊗⊗ identity is being used, or when they feel confident that it was being used for something illegal, such as selling counterfeits. That does not mean Amazon is always RIGHT, it happens even to innocent users.

And, per their user agreement, they have the right to grab your cash if they, in their sole discretion, feel that the account was obtained under false pretenses or used for any illegal activity. Nice, huh?
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Anyone had any experience to know if that payment is going to show up in my bank account, or am I SOL?

Mike
With your description, you may well be SOL.

Sorry to be blunt. But others using amazon has had the same happen to them.

Amazon has retained the funds.

Here's the rub: it's in their T&S that they can do what they want.

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Are you committing fraud? This just doesn't add up to me. I have had accounts suspended for being accused of selling ⊗⊗⊗⊗, but they don't ever delete the account. They always just give me the 90 days wait. I cant imagine what you would have to do to have your account deleted.
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Are you committing fraud?
Who are you talking about here????
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Are you committing fraud? This just doesn't add up to me. I have had accounts suspended for being accused of selling ⊗⊗⊗⊗, but they don't ever delete the account. They always just give me the 90 days wait. I cant imagine what you would have to do to have your account deleted.
Many of us have had accounts deleted. It does not necessarily mean that fraud is being committed. In many cases, Amazon simply believes that ⊗⊗⊗⊗ information was used to open the account.

And we all know that ANY security measures taken tend to affect innocent users as well. If that were not true, then NONE OF US would be here.
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Who are you talking about here????
the OP ....
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the OP ....
Try a little tact here.

Since you know nothing of the OP nor the buisness plan, avoid assuming.

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Surely every stealth account is an element of fraud attached to it.
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It's like opening an email account, for example. One doesn't want to use their real details due to privacy concerns, etc...

The way I look at it is that we are all doing a good job, customers are happy, but we are forced to operate under a safety protection shield.
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Surely every stealth account is an element of fraud attached to it.
Hmm opening up a can of worms here

Accounts get deleted if there is any hint of problematic activity - way back in 2011, I had accounts go down with no fraudulent sales - only legit activity...was very annoying.
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Well so would reuse bank account trigger it?
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Well so would reuse bank account trigger it?
re using a bank account is like a cardinal sin.
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Thanks for the help. For future reference. The funds hit my account. With a deletion a day after the confirmation email. Hope this helps anyone withe the same question. Yes. The funds will arrive.
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Thanks for the help. For future reference. The funds hit my account. With a deletion a day after the confirmation email. Hope this helps anyone withe the same question. Yes. The funds will arrive.

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Thanks for the help. For future reference. The funds hit my account. With a deletion a day after the confirmation email. Hope this helps anyone withe the same question. Yes. The funds will arrive.
TAKE OSE FUND OUT IMMEDIATELY! Amazon CAN and DOES attempt to go back and grab funds sometimes. I'm not saying this WILL happen in your case (it does not sound like it) but it COULD HAPPEN.
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As an FYI, here is the language that allows Amazon to take your funds - forever. It is under "How Do I Get Paid" section...

If we determine that a seller account has been used to engage in fraud or other illegal activity, remittances and payments may be permanently withheld.
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As an FYI, here is the language that allows Amazon to take your funds - forever. It is under "How Do I Get Paid" section...

If we determine that a seller account has been used to engage in fraud or other illegal activity, remittances and payments may be permanently withheld.
Yes - the generic accusation, coverall statement...annoying and "proprietary"
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