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| koobar | 04-21-2015 11:54 PM |
Today is a depressed day
I have run my stealths over 5 months and they are all gone today! Last year I bought a dedicated server to run VPS with static IP. I tested over a month running my amazon stealth. Everything was perfect at that time and I built over 10 accounts on my server from time to time. Today, which is a fantastic day for me, they all gone. How come it can last for 5 months? Why don't they just fking kill me at the beginning! I hate Amazon to death:mad2: |
Re: Today is a depressed day
What was the message given koobar? Sorry to hear that :( |
| Callidus | 04-22-2015 04:05 AM |
Re: Today is a depressed day
Sounds like you've been linked. |
| Bunneh | 04-22-2015 05:53 AM |
Re: Today is a depressed day
Did you use the same static IP address for all the accounts? |
Re: Today is a depressed day
Amazon is a beast, they can track you in many different ways
I've never had an issue listing 1 item per dedicated amazon account.
Cross listing similar items that show tracking originating from the same zip code can be easily tracked/linked together. |
| Taking The Micky | 04-22-2015 06:44 AM |
Re: Today is a depressed day
Buddy, sorry to hear your bad news. The only reason they will have suspended all 10 accounts is that in someway they have linked them. You say dedicated server. But did you have a different IP for each account. If you are running 10 accounts from the same IP, similar details, similar stock they will link you in the end. I assume they are only suspended you. Just get started again, look at your methods and look forward to mid July when you will get you cash. |
| muzzie | 04-22-2015 07:37 AM |
Re: Today is a depressed day
Yeah, were all of your accounts created from different static IPs? Did they have everything different? |
| mufc365 | 04-22-2015 07:45 AM |
Re: Today is a depressed day
As others say which i agree on it must be the IP. It just shows you can never take your eye off the ball and must always be wary when your running stealth accounts let alone 10.
Start again and take it one day at a time. Most importantly find out the exact reason why you were linked and learn from your mistakes. Good luck. |
| koobar | 04-22-2015 09:11 PM |
Re: Today is a depressed day
I thought I was an expert on amazon stealth, I bought a dedicated server which offers 256 different IPs and you can alocate an unique IP to each of your account. Visa/IP/Phone#/Address/Email are surely different. The risky factors I can figure out are:
1. Those IPs show they are coming from the same network company
2. The Visa card doesn't match billing address. I think it won't kill your account right away, but when amazon conduct a review on your account, it raises red flag.
3. Phone numbers are not real. I think it is not important though.
I never log on my accounts at same time and they are selling different but similar items, now I'm believing amazon is learning your habit even they are not many similarities between your accounts. So depressed, anyone can suggest me the most safe way to handle 10 accounts? You know what 2 of my accounts are Euro accounts which aren't removed from my server. |
| koobar | 04-22-2015 09:13 PM |
Re: Today is a depressed day
Quote:
Originally Posted by rsot
(Post 661819)
What was the message given koobar? Sorry to hear that :(
| They deleted them without any notification |
| Taking The Micky | 04-22-2015 09:38 PM |
Re: Today is a depressed day
If as you say your accounts are deleted meaning you cannot log on, then you have certainly pissed amazon off. They have linked all the accounts someway. You have certainly missed or done something wrong. Do you check your IP before you log onto amazon, maybe a glitch with your dedicated server.
Answer to your question, firstly I don't understand why somebody would want 10 active accounts trading but thats your choice. You need a dedicated IP per account, new user on your PC/Laptop for each account and then follow ghost methods as you know to set up each account and be careful. The reason your EU accounts survived is that US and EU don't share info. |
| Bunneh | 04-23-2015 09:42 AM |
Re: Today is a depressed day
Quote:
Originally Posted by koobar
(Post 662150)
They deleted them without any notification
| What were you using? Hidemyass vpn ? |
| TonyAlmeida | 04-23-2015 09:47 AM |
Re: Today is a depressed day
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1. Those IPs show they are coming from the same network company
| I have run many account on the same network with out any problem Quote:
2. The Visa card doesn't match billing address
| What card did you used? You need to plan everything carefully. Quote:
Phone numbers are not real. I think it is not important though.
| Don't understand this, If not real how did you verify the account in the first place?
Are those account for Canada or US? |
Re: Today is a depressed day
@koobar, did you keep an ACTIVE balance on your visa cards for each account? How much if so |
| mufc365 | 04-23-2015 12:28 PM |
Re: Today is a depressed day
lol @ bunneh Hidemyass vpn |
| Bunneh | 04-23-2015 12:34 PM |
Re: Today is a depressed day
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Originally Posted by mufc365
(Post 662345)
lol @ bunneh Hidemyass vpn
| lol you can never tell these days :d
scary stuff people doing!! |
| mufc365 | 04-23-2015 12:40 PM |
Re: Today is a depressed day
lol true, i agree |
| Taking The Micky | 04-23-2015 04:54 PM |
Re: Today is a depressed day
I have used and use HMA without problem, however I never use a US or UK IP via HMA. |
| koobar | 04-23-2015 11:36 PM |
Re: Today is a depressed day
Quote:
Originally Posted by TonyAlmeida
(Post 662299)
I have run many account on the same network with out any problem
What card did you used? You need to plan everything carefully.
Don't understand this, If not real how did you verify the account in the first place?
Are those account for Canada or US?
| Those accounts are for Canada. I wrote the phone number randomly and bought a verification service for each account. |
| jeffweico | 04-23-2015 11:37 PM |
Re: Today is a depressed day
If they all went down at the same time, they had to be linked in some way.
Might I suggest a different VPS for each account in the future? Also, you MUST keep a working phone number on file! I once received a call from Amazon, but I did not know who was calling so I let it go to voicemail. 10 minutes later, my account was DELETED. I know it was Amazon that called, because I reverse-searched the number. |
| koobar | 04-23-2015 11:37 PM |
Re: Today is a depressed day
Quote:
Originally Posted by rsot
(Post 662308)
@koobar, did you keep an ACTIVE balance on your visa cards for each account? How much if so
| I always keep positive balance on my account |
| koobar | 04-23-2015 11:46 PM |
Re: Today is a depressed day
Okey, I almost figured out the problem, because I found another account survives. The acount were deleted, they were sharing a same items. although I was trying to cover it by selling other items. Amazon is learning your habit and it found out my sales were coming from the same item. A painful lesson with several thouand lost. |
| SadSuspended | 04-24-2015 12:00 AM |
Re: Today is a depressed day
I agree about the phone number. When I started selling on Amazon with real info on my 10 yr old account they called me at least three times at night asking stupid questions, on different dates. |
| GreenBean | 04-24-2015 02:34 AM |
Re: Today is a depressed day
Quote:
Originally Posted by koobar
(Post 662496)
Okey, I almost figured out the problem, because I found another account survives. The acount were deleted, they were sharing a same items. although I was trying to cover it by selling other items. Amazon is learning your habit and it found out my sales were coming from the same item. A painful lesson with several thouand lost.
| For the next lot of stealth, make sure you have no similarities.... amazon is known to look for those.
Even be careful of adding a new SKU with same items.
Sorry to hear you got caught. |
| TonyAlmeida | 04-24-2015 05:44 AM |
Re: Today is a depressed day
Quote:
Originally Posted by koobar
(Post 662490)
Those accounts are for Canada. I wrote the phone number randomly and bought a verification service for each account.
| There is a free app and Canada phone number for Android, I used it before but don't remember the app's name |
| Taking The Micky | 04-24-2015 06:59 AM |
Re: Today is a depressed day
Quote:
Originally Posted by TonyAlmeida
(Post 662606)
There is a free app and Canada phone number for Android, I used it before but don't remember the app's name
| Very helpful Tony.... |
| Taking The Micky | 04-24-2015 07:01 AM |
Re: Today is a depressed day
Amazon now seem to call you rather than e mail you. All my numbers are on divert and amazon UK via Eire is calling me at 3am. My phone is silent but at least the phone is ringing showing its active. |
Re: Today is a depressed day
Quote:
Originally Posted by TonyAlmeida
(Post 662606)
There is a free app and Canada phone number for Android, I used it before but don't remember the app's name
| Fongo? Talkatone? Some of those numbers are overused |
| TonyAlmeida | 04-24-2015 09:48 AM |
Re: Today is a depressed day
No, not those RSOT, I just could remember it |
| koobar | 04-24-2015 11:09 PM |
Re: Today is a depressed day
Quote:
Originally Posted by Taking The Micky
(Post 662641)
Amazon now seem to call you rather than e mail you. All my numbers are on divert and amazon UK via Eire is calling me at 3am. My phone is silent but at least the phone is ringing showing its active.
| Phone number could be a problem. I think once they found those suspicious accounts, they might have called me and found the numbers were not exist. But if you have 10 accounts how can you manage those numbers? Keep them activated and pay monthly fee? That costs you a lot. |
| GreenBean | 04-24-2015 11:19 PM |
Re: Today is a depressed day
Quote:
Originally Posted by koobar
(Post 662908)
Keep them activated and pay monthly fee? That costs you a lot.
| Yep. it costs money to make money. |
| Gamefreak | 04-25-2015 01:51 AM |
Re: Today is a depressed day
Quote:
Originally Posted by koobar
(Post 662908)
Phone number could be a problem. I think once they found those suspicious accounts, they might have called me and found the numbers were not exist. But if you have 10 accounts how can you manage those numbers? Keep them activated and pay monthly fee? That costs you a lot.
|
I'm running 10 numbers right now that i pay 5 bucks a pop for... in business with worth the small fee to keep a good account active. The only problem i have is when amazon or eBay calls i don't know what account they are talking about until they mention the name on said account... |
| Taking The Micky | 04-25-2015 08:33 AM |
Re: Today is a depressed day
10 accounts 10 times the cost. |
| ricardosway8 | 04-25-2015 01:12 PM |
Re: Today is a depressed day
Did you use VMware to create account? What Operation system/browser you used. |
| koobar | 04-25-2015 02:21 PM |
Re: Today is a depressed day
Quote:
Originally Posted by ricardosway8
(Post 663055)
Did you use VMware to create account? What Operation system/browser you used.
| I'm using VPS and on each VPS I use different browser with different add-ons |
| Lucifer | 04-25-2015 02:28 PM |
Re: Today is a depressed day
Why don't you use dongle, Static Ip(Fresh IP VPN) etc--Mix up. It may cost you more but worthy for business. Also try to use Vmware/Parallel and different user account. Also you can use portable browser. hope it will help you @Koobar |
| koobar | 04-25-2015 04:25 PM |
Re: Today is a depressed day
Quote:
Originally Posted by jeffweico
(Post 662491)
If they all went down at the same time, they had to be linked in some way.
Might I suggest a different VPS for each account in the future? Also, you MUST keep a working phone number on file! I once received a call from Amazon, but I did not know who was calling so I let it go to voicemail. 10 minutes later, my account was DELETED. I know it was Amazon that called, because I reverse-searched the number.
| It's a problem if Amazon is calling you and you have no idea which account is about. What should I do? |
| Taking The Micky | 04-25-2015 05:19 PM |
Re: Today is a depressed day
I never pick up, they attempt 3 or 4 times then send an e mail |
| jboone733 | 04-26-2015 07:51 PM |
Re: Today is a depressed day
Quote:
Originally Posted by jeffweico
(Post 662491)
If they all went down at the same time, they had to be linked in some way.
Might I suggest a different VPS for each account in the future? Also, you MUST keep a working phone number on file! I once received a call from Amazon, but I did not know who was calling so I let it go to voicemail. 10 minutes later, my account was DELETED. I know it was Amazon that called, because I reverse-searched the number.
| They sure are a bunch of twats! |
Re: Today is a depressed day
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gamefreak
(Post 662928)
I'm running 10 numbers right now that i pay 5 bucks a pop for... in business with worth the small fee to keep a good account active. The only problem i have is when amazon or eBay calls i don't know what account they are talking about until they mention the name on said account...
| Sounds like you a small app or list of number vs. name |
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