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I've been selling online since the days of Yahoo Auctions and Amazon Z shops.

My first Amazon seller account was banned maybe 2-3 years ago for one negative in about a week of selling (buyer didn't read description or contact me). Since I was a new seller my ODR was so high I got the boot.

I then purchased Amazon Stealth and was able to learn how to get back on. I've used the tactics learned to also create multiple eBay accounts for various product lines I sell, never any trouble with eBay linking accounts.

I've successfully created 2 stealth accounts since my original Amazon account being suspended. The 2 stealth accounts were also suspended. One was where a competitor told Amazon I was selling "illegal products" when they were selling the same thing, second was due to my employees making a mess of one holiday season to the point where we got out of control with our ODR.



Anyway, over the past month I've created about 10 Amazon accounts, all of which get banned almost immediately for linked accounts. Here is my process in creating the new accounts:

-I am using VMware, and create a new machine for each user.
-Different name (family/friends)
-Visa prepaid card
-Different bank account linked to a newly created LLC
-Change the Mac address on my router, unplug it to get a new IP
-Addresses are some of my different offices and PO Box numbers
-Different phone numbers via Google Voice, Burner, or toll free forwarding
-I am not rushing to list products, in fact I often get banned before even listing anything.



I did notice that to become a pro merchant you now must complete the tax form right off the bat rather than 200 transactions/$20k in sales. I thought that was what was getting me kicked off so last night I tried creating a non-pro merchant account to skip the tax form, still banned almost immediately.


Any ideas what can be linking my accounts? I thought that by using VMware, new IP, new info, I would be fine. Is Amazon maybe seeing something attached to my computer and linking a mac address of perhaps my printer or something?

Also, for the tax form as a pro merchant I believe that I can enter my regular information as Amazon does not see the information on the tax form they just verify it, is that correct?

I'm stumped, even went through the stealth guide again and can't figure this one out. If anyone has some ideas it would be greatly appreciated.
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1. What you mean by "banned"? Post some of the email or message from Amazon here. There is hundred reason of banned .
2. You are link your account in some way.

- VMware = OK
- Family/Friend name = Not OK
- Visa prepaid card = What kind? where you get them?
- Bank = What bank used?
- Address should be OK but need more creative
- Phone = Stay away from Google, don't know about toll free forwading. What is burner? Best is TracFone prepaid
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Tollfreeforwarding....you are aware that their numbers give problem for Amazon? Are you even getting the initial seller call confirmation?
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Lately I've been using an app called Burner which gives you new phone numbers rather than toll free forwarding.

I think the addresses may have been too similar - I have a new office location pretty far away that should work as opposed to the PO Boxes I've been using

I am using Vanilla Visa as a credit card, and have tried Chase and Bank of America accounts.

In regards to name, should I make one that is a misspelling of my name? Or What? The thing I'm concerned about is this new Tax Interview, but I believe Amazon doesn't see the information on the form, they just validate it to match what is on the account, so my name has to be there right?

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- Vanilla Visa Giftcard work good.
- For the phone, try to use TracFone for once and see the result (cheap)
- For address, just try to get some retail business address this time.
- Name, just pick a totally different name
- Bank, Chase and BOA is good to used.
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- Vanilla Visa Giftcard work good.
- For the phone, try to use TracFone for once and see the result (cheap)
- For address, just try to get some retail business address this time.
- Name, just pick a totally different name
- Bank, Chase and BOA is good to used.
I MISS TONY ALMEIDA! Just had a flashback to good memories... for the name though, What about the tax interview where you would need correct name, SSN, ect?

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Tony Almeida will be return to rescuer Jack Bauer

You don't need to worry about the TAX for now. Just start an individual account to see how it go. If everything going good then move to the next step.
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I MISS TONY ALMEIDA! Just had a flashback to good memories... for the name though, What about the tax interview where you would need correct name, SSN, ect?
I am also concern about this, when creating a stealth Amazon account with a ⊗⊗⊗⊗ name, how do you go about filing tax information later on?

Is there a way around this? I mean Amazon sends tax papers to the address on file and name?.
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Try avoiding using google voice, instead use tracfones
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Try avoiding using google voice, instead use tracfones
how about if i have a tracfone but i can't use it bcause its a BLUE sim (cant recieve a text from paypal). can i use a GV number and redirect through the tracfone phone?

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how about if i have a tracfone but i can't use it bcause its a BLUE sim (cant recieve a text from paypal). can i use a GV number and redirect through the tracfone phone?

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That mean you are using GV
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how about if i have a tracfone but i can't use it bcause its a BLUE sim (cant recieve a text from paypal). can i use a GV number and redirect through the tracfone phone?

thanks
confirm text on paypal is not important doesnt really do anything just confirm ebay
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