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tmonta 05-03-2015 03:23 PM

Suspended from Amazon - what to do with inventory
 
I have recently been suspended from Amazon and have a question about my inventory. I have over 50000 units in the FBA Warehouse. Does anyone have any suggestions about what I can do with this inventory? Can I sell it to another Amazon seller? My father has also been selling on Amazon for a year (products completely different from mine, different bank, address, different everything). Can he purchase my inventory without hurting his account? Any advise would be helpful.

Airun 05-04-2015 08:12 AM

Re: Suspended from Amazon - what to do with inventory
 
I would think it depends on what you were suspended for. If you were suspended because of the items not meeting Amazon's standards I wouldn't give to your father, just take them to ebay. If you weren't suspended because of items give your father a few at a time. If all 50000 are the same item I would have him list like 30 at a time and stagger the listings, list 30 sell 30 and wait a few days to relist again.

TonyAlmeida 05-04-2015 08:22 AM

Re: Suspended from Amazon - what to do with inventory
 
First thing to do is get all 50k items from FBA back to you

tmonta 05-04-2015 03:09 PM

Re: Suspended from Amazon - what to do with inventory
 
We were suspended for two items not matching product detail pages. The kicker is that the listings were correct when we listed them and were changed by another seller with incorrect info at some point. Have been trying to get it resolved with Amazon but I am losing hope. Its actually approx 1500 different items totaling approx 75000 units. eBay is not really an option because it will take a lifetime to sell the units there.

tmonta 05-04-2015 03:10 PM

Re: Suspended from Amazon - what to do with inventory
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TonyAlmeida (Post 665859)
First thing to do is get all 50k items from FBA back to you

Am I going to have any problems getting them returned to me?

TonyAlmeida 05-04-2015 07:08 PM

Re: Suspended from Amazon - what to do with inventory
 
Your account already had a problem with it. You can sale your item with that account anymore. If you don't set them back then what are you going to do with them.

Just request them return to you and keep your finger cross

Airun 05-05-2015 02:32 PM

Re: Suspended from Amazon - what to do with inventory
 
That always intrigues me about Amazon. How people can just change the details of an item and then all of the sudden your product isn't valid. Like Tony said request your items and pray they send them. And sell or give them to your father to sell slowly.

barrycruan 05-05-2015 02:40 PM

Re: Suspended from Amazon - what to do with inventory
 
Your going to have a problem in that Amazon charge you to send stock back.

Have you tried using the CEOs email. Obviously you don't get to talk to Jeff but the email usually is dealt with by a more capable team than seller support.

One of my accounts has just gone down for this exact same reason and we are currently trying to fight it. I've seen people get reinstated for this so don't give up hope yet.

TonyAlmeida 05-05-2015 02:45 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Airun (Post 666346)
That always intrigues me about Amazon. How people can just change the details of an item and then all of the sudden your product isn't valid. Like Tony said request your items and pray they send them. And sell or give them to your father to sell slowly.

Only the original creator of that item can change it. People doing that to screw other sellers that list in their listed (most of the time is cheaper price)

RosieTosie 05-05-2015 04:47 PM

Re: Suspended from Amazon - what to do with inventory
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TonyAlmeida (Post 666354)
Only the original creator of that item can change it. People doing that to screw other sellers that list in their listed (most of the time is cheaper price)


I have something like this going on at the moment with my Amazon account, I just listed some new items that have turned out to be quite popular and I had some sales. There are quite a few others selling these items, some in large quantities. I have the lowest priced items currently, each time I log in someone has reduced 2 or 3 of their items by one penny, to take the lowest priced tag off me, so I countered by matching their prices, and so it goes on, and on, and on.

TonyAlmeida 05-05-2015 06:47 PM

Re: Suspended from Amazon - what to do with inventory
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RosieTosie (Post 666388)
I have something like this going on at the moment with my Amazon account, I just listed some new items that have turned out to be quite popular and I had some sales. There are quite a few others selling these items, some in large quantities. I have the lowest priced items currently, each time I log in someone has reduced 2 or 3 of their items by one penny, to take the lowest priced tag off me, so I countered by matching their prices, and so it goes on, and on, and on.

Are you the original creator of that ASIN? If not, nothing you can do to control others

rsot 05-05-2015 09:05 PM

Re: Suspended from Amazon - what to do with inventory
 
Best of luck getting the product back then - and WITH PRODUCT IN HAND - can you consider options

Taking The Micky 05-06-2015 02:43 AM

Re: Suspended from Amazon - what to do with inventory
 
Firstly you cannot sell these to another seller while they are in amazons warehouse. They are stickered with your unique identifier.
You are able to request a removal order to return them to you, this will cost you an absolute fortune.
My advice, amazon are holding your funds for 90 days, once the money is released to you then create a removal order, cancel the credit card thats on the account and empty your bank. This way amazon cannot charge you for the removal. I think the amazon charge is 15 cents per item for return.
Good luck, and when you get your stock back you will have massive task removing all the permanent stickers as if you don't and just sticker over the old ones you could get linked.

skyline 05-06-2015 03:03 AM

Re: Suspended from Amazon - what to do with inventory
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tmonta (Post 665982)
We were suspended for two items not matching product detail pages. The kicker is that the listings were correct when we listed them and were changed by another seller with incorrect info at some point. Have been trying to get it resolved with Amazon but I am losing hope. Its actually approx 1500 different items totaling approx 75000 units. eBay is not really an option because it will take a lifetime to sell the units there.

You were banned for that...? Doesn't make any sense why you can't get reinstated if it wasn't your fault. I really dislike Amazon. When I was selling there it was 1 strike and you are out...

At least on eBay they gave a few warnings. But even still I was banned b/c I created another accnt while my real accnt had a 7 day suspension. If eBay would've warned me not to create another accnt while I was on the 7 day suspension I don't think I would've been permanently banned. They seemed to make it clear AFTER they banned me which was kind of unfair. I was not expecting them to lay down the hammer after a few minor warnings.

rsot 05-06-2015 03:59 AM

Re: Suspended from Amazon - what to do with inventory
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by skyline (Post 666508)
You were banned for that...? Doesn't make any sense why you can't get reinstated if it wasn't your fault. I really dislike Amazon. When I was selling there it was 1 strike and you are out...

Amazon is very strict - worrisome at times

barrycruan 05-06-2015 04:00 AM

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Amazon charges start at 60p per item to return in the UK and 20p to dispose of it for you. But 15 cents is a nice thought. Again please refrain from making things up.

barrycruan 05-06-2015 04:02 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by rsot (Post 666524)
Amazon is very strict - worrisome at times

Yep. The same thing has happened to one of our accounts with a $600k a year turnover. Not even a warning. They just said two items don't match the product description and that's it.

RosieTosie 05-06-2015 04:17 AM

Re: Suspended from Amazon - what to do with inventory
 
In my experience Amazon are only that strict if you have massive turnover, I am at the opposite end of the situation, I only have a small turnover, and when I phoned them up once about something and asked what my limits were, I didn't have any. I have been concentrating on sorting out my ebay accounts so Amazon is more of a sideline for me because listing on it can be a real pain, buying items from wholesale suppliers only to find beause an item is not already listed I can only list by creating a new item.

Creating a new item can be not worth the hassle as well, talk about going through hoops, toys and makeup are a nightmare to list, they ask for more and more info and even when it's provided the 'vital info', sign doesn't go away.

Taking The Micky 05-06-2015 04:49 AM

Re: Suspended from Amazon - what to do with inventory
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by barrycruan (Post 666525)
Amazon charges start at 60p per item to return in the UK and 20p to dispose of it for you. But 15 cents is a nice thought. Again please refrain from making things up.

Sorry my mistake 15c for disposal 50c for return

http://www.amazon.com/gp/help/custom...deId=200685110

Taking The Micky 05-06-2015 04:51 AM

Re: Suspended from Amazon - what to do with inventory
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by barrycruan (Post 666525)
Amazon charges start at 60p per item to return in the UK and 20p to dispose of it for you. But 15 cents is a nice thought. Again please refrain from making things up.

Also Barry I did use the word "think" not "they are"

Taking The Micky 05-06-2015 05:01 AM

Re: Suspended from Amazon - what to do with inventory
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by barrycruan (Post 666529)
Yep. The same thing has happened to one of our accounts with a $600k a year turnover. Not even a warning. They just said two items don't match the product description and that's it.

FIND THAT SO HARD TO BELIEVE, the standard e mail is below, not suspension, more must have been going on.
Hello from Amazon.

We wanted to let you know that we have received a potential customer complaint regarding
the item you are offering below. It is possible that the item you are selling does not match the
product description shown on the detail page or may not have been listed in accordance with
our Condition Guidelines:

ASIN:
Title:

Please note that at this time, no action has been taken to remove your offer on this item and
you do not need to contact us regarding this notice. However, we ask that you review your
listings and make any changes necessary to comply with our policies. You can modify your
listings in the Inventory section of Seller Central
(https://sellercentral.

Customers may complain when they receive an item different from what they were expecting
based on the product detail page - and our policies require that items offered for sale on
Amazon.com match the detail page in every respect and be listed in accordance with the
Condition Guidelines. Problems may include inaccurately listing the brand, manufacturer, UPC,
edition, binding, quantity, version, color, and condition.

Finally, please note that you cannot list an item that does not match the product detail page
even if you describe the differences in the comments. If an appropriate detail page is not
available for your product, you are welcome to create a product detail page by using our
"Create A Detail Page" service.

We want to call your attention to these policies because violations may result in the removal of
your Amazon.com selling privileges. To learn more about these policies, search "Prohibited
Seller Activities and Actions", "Product Detail Page Rules", and "Condition Guidelines" in Seller
Central Help.

tmonta 05-06-2015 05:10 AM

Re: Suspended from Amazon - what to do with inventory
 
Yes this has been an absolute nightmare. I was selling over 45000 units a month for over 2 years now with 100% feedback. Never an A - Z claim. Apparently any seller can take control over the items detail page at any time. Amazon determines which of the sellers take control over the details pages automatically based on an algorithm consisting of inventory levels, feedback score, seller health etc. We received two policy warnings about two asins not matching the items details page. The policy warning said to email seller support our plan of how we were going to fix these to listings. I immediately removed them from FBA inventory and stopped selling them because I saw the pages had been changed at some point. I also immediately responded to the policy warning stating we were removing them from FBA and will no longer be selling them. Then approx 2 weeks later I received a suspension notice stating we continue to list against incorrect item detail pages but the letter did not mention any new asin problems. I spoke with seller support and they told me that even though we removed them from FBA and stopped selling them, I failed to actually delete the item from our active inventory list and that triggered the suspension. Support instructed me to put that info in our appeal, which I did and was denied the appeal with the standard 'permanent action' response.

As for the two incorrect asins.....After the initial policy warning but before the suspension, we found approx 10 other listings of the same sort of item (different variations) that also had incorrect detail pages. We contacted seller support and was told that one of the sellers listed themselves as the brand owner (which was false info) and the detail page was using their detail info. In that case, seller support can not change the pages and that I would need to contact seller performance. Well I did contact seller support and they removed the brand ownership from that seller and the seller was warned that they can not list themselves as the brand owner if they are not.

So that is how I have ended up here. I have over 70000 units in the FBA warehouse valued at over $200000 in cost that will end up costing me $35000 just for FBA to return them to me. I have had a few items returned so far that I need to sell in other outlets and so far everything I have requested has come back.

I have not completely given up hope yet. I still have a few avenues to try to get through to Amazon.

Taking The Micky 05-06-2015 05:44 AM

Re: Suspended from Amazon - what to do with inventory
 
All I can say thats really tough, but this is what we are up against with amazon, when its good its great and when its bad, its really ****. I assume amazon must be holding over $100k in funds looking at your figures. Just push amazon, write to jeff@amazon.com everyday with the same email till you get an answer, write you case in as much detail as possible but keep it very polite. If what you say is true you may have a chance. If it fails, wait for the disbursement and then do your removal request and it will cost you nothing.
I assume these items are not unique, so set up a ghost account and start slowly again.

barrycruan 05-06-2015 09:36 AM

Re: Suspended from Amazon - what to do with inventory
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tmonta (Post 666562)
Yes this has been an absolute nightmare. I was selling over 45000 units a month for over 2 years now with 100% feedback. Never an A - Z claim. Apparently any seller can take control over the items detail page at any time. Amazon determines which of the sellers take control over the details pages automatically based on an algorithm consisting of inventory levels, feedback score, seller health etc. We received two policy warnings about two asins not matching the items details page. The policy warning said to email seller support our plan of how we were going to fix these to listings. I immediately removed them from FBA inventory and stopped selling them because I saw the pages had been changed at some point. I also immediately responded to the policy warning stating we were removing them from FBA and will no longer be selling them. Then approx 2 weeks later I received a suspension notice stating we continue to list against incorrect item detail pages but the letter did not mention any new asin problems. I spoke with seller support and they told me that even though we removed them from FBA and stopped selling them, I failed to actually delete the item from our active inventory list and that triggered the suspension. Support instructed me to put that info in our appeal, which I did and was denied the appeal with the standard 'permanent action' response.

As for the two incorrect asins.....After the initial policy warning but before the suspension, we found approx 10 other listings of the same sort of item (different variations) that also had incorrect detail pages. We contacted seller support and was told that one of the sellers listed themselves as the brand owner (which was false info) and the detail page was using their detail info. In that case, seller support can not change the pages and that I would need to contact seller performance. Well I did contact seller support and they removed the brand ownership from that seller and the seller was warned that they can not list themselves as the brand owner if they are not.

So that is how I have ended up here. I have over 70000 units in the FBA warehouse valued at over $200000 in cost that will end up costing me $35000 just for FBA to return them to me. I have had a few items returned so far that I need to sell in other outlets and so far everything I have requested has come back.

I have not completely given up hope yet. I still have a few avenues to try to get through to Amazon.

You should definitely try posting to the above email.

Also worth posting on amazons actual forums. Every other example I've found of this happening the seller seems to have successfully appealed the decision and is back on amazon.

I will let you know if I have any luck.

tmonta 05-06-2015 02:03 PM

Re: Suspended from Amazon - what to do with inventory
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Taking The Micky (Post 666566)
All I can say thats really tough, but this is what we are up against with amazon, when its good its great and when its bad, its really ****. I assume amazon must be holding over $100k in funds looking at your figures. Just push amazon, write to jeff@amazon.com everyday with the same email till you get an answer, write you case in as much detail as possible but keep it very polite. If what you say is true you may have a chance. If it fails, wait for the disbursement and then do your removal request and it will cost you nothing.
I assume these items are not unique, so set up a ghost account and start slowly again.

They are holding approx $40000 of our money which will cover what is it is going to cost to have the inventory returned. The items are not unique so another account is an option but really not my first option. I really would like to try to get the account back. So much time and energy was put into this account. This is just not right. To be suspended for incorrect item detail pages that were not contributed by me is just wrong. Especially for this size of an account. What kills me is the feeling of helplessness because I can not even get someone to respond to me because we received the denial of reinstatement email that says they will not respond to this any further.

tmonta 05-06-2015 02:04 PM

Re: Suspended from Amazon - what to do with inventory
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by barrycruan (Post 666616)
You should definitely try posting to the above email.

Also worth posting on amazons actual forums. Every other example I've found of this happening the seller seems to have successfully appealed the decision and is back on amazon.

I will let you know if I have any luck.



I am in the middle of trying to contact Amazon through some other avenues right now. If that does not work, I will definetly try the Amazon forums and emailing jeff@amazon.com as a last resort. If you have any luck, please let me know and I will do the same for you

TonyAlmeida 05-06-2015 02:05 PM

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Amazon also respond to the BBB report.

RosieTosie 05-06-2015 03:15 PM

Re: Suspended from Amazon - what to do with inventory
 
What is the BBB report Tony?

TonyAlmeida 05-06-2015 03:17 PM

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Taking The Micky 05-06-2015 05:25 PM

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The jeff@amazon.com will eventually in your case get to an escalations team within seller performance.

barrycruan 05-07-2015 12:15 PM

Re: Suspended from Amazon - what to do with inventory
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tmonta (Post 666678)
I am in the middle of trying to contact Amazon through some other avenues right now. If that does not work, I will definetly try the Amazon forums and emailing jeff@amazon.com as a last resort. If you have any luck, please let me know and I will do the same for you

Not sure if this helps but i did manage to get my account reinstated.

Only thing is my first appeal was met with a generic response saying exactly the same thing as the suspension and so were my next 3 appeals. With you getting the final notice it might be a bit more difficult but I have seen plenty of big accounts get that messages and later get reinstated.

I emailed the UK version of jeff@amazon.com and my first few emails were ignored. I'm not sure is this made a difference or it was just a coincidence but in my 3rd email I stated how much we spend a month in Amazon fees and within an hour of that we got a call from seller performance who went over our appeals and reinstated us.

We were suspended for something very similar to you although this was actually our fault. I've found quite a few others who got suspended for this and everyone of them has been reinstated so I would definitely keep trying and try that email address. Is also post your story on the seller forums at Amazon.com. The mods there seem to help a lot more than seller support do.

Good luck

tmonta 05-09-2015 06:09 AM

Re: Suspended from Amazon - what to do with inventory
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by barrycruan (Post 667028)
Not sure if this helps but i did manage to get my account reinstated.

Only thing is my first appeal was met with a generic response saying exactly the same thing as the suspension and so were my next 3 appeals. With you getting the final notice it might be a bit more difficult but I have seen plenty of big accounts get that messages and later get reinstated.

I emailed the UK version of jeff@amazon.com and my first few emails were ignored. I'm not sure is this made a difference or it was just a coincidence but in my 3rd email I stated how much we spend a month in Amazon fees and within an hour of that we got a call from seller performance who went over our appeals and reinstated us.

We were suspended for something very similar to you although this was actually our fault. I've found quite a few others who got suspended for this and everyone of them has been reinstated so I would definitely keep trying and try that email address. Is also post your story on the seller forums at Amazon.com. The mods there seem to help a lot more than seller support do.


Feel free to PM if you want to see my appeal or anything.

Good luck


I did send you a PM but just wanted to say congratulations on being reinstated. If you could pm me your appeal letters that would be greatly appreciated because I am preparing ours for jeff now. Thanks again for any help you can offer

barrycruan 05-09-2015 01:40 PM

Re: Suspended from Amazon - what to do with inventory
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tmonta (Post 667556)
I did send you a PM but just wanted to say congratulations on being reinstated. If you could pm me your appeal letters that would be greatly appreciated because I am preparing ours for jeff now. Thanks again for any help you can offer

Hi I'm sure I replied so check your messages? I Can send my appeal to you but the reasons behind the suspension were slightly different (incorrect product details but it was our fault). My appeal was mainly common sense and it wasn't actually that what got us reinstated. On the phone they said it covered 99% of the problems but we were still suspended until they phoned.

The most important thing is to get in touch with the right people. So get that email @jeff. You don't need to send your appeal there. Just let them know what has happened, maybe explain how much you spend in fees and how much stock you have tied up in fba. Ask for them to get you in Touch with someone who can assist you in this. The main problem for this kind of suspension is you don't really,know what you have been suspended for. They gave us two products as the reason but on the phone they said it was a different product and that's why our appeals failed.

That's what worked for me and the other people I've read about.

tmonta 05-09-2015 03:32 PM

Re: Suspended from Amazon - what to do with inventory
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by barrycruan (Post 667678)
Hi I'm sure I replied so check your messages? I Can send my appeal to you but the reasons behind the suspension were slightly different (incorrect product details but it was our fault). My appeal was mainly common sense and it wasn't actually that what got us reinstated. On the phone they said it covered 99% of the problems but we were still suspended until they phoned.

The most important thing is to get in touch with the right people. So get that email @jeff. You don't need to send your appeal there. Just let them know what has happened, maybe explain how much you spend in fees and how much stock you have tied up in fba. Ask for them to get you in Touch with someone who can assist you in this. The main problem for this kind of suspension is you don't really,know what you have been suspended for. They gave us two products as the reason but on the phone they said it was a different product and that's why our appeals failed.

That's what worked for me and the other people I've read about.

Ok I did not get the pm but thats ok. Thanks for the advise. I have a feeling I have the same problem you did. I feel like there is another product or issue there is a problem with beyond the 2 I received warnings for. I feel that if I could just talk to someone, I would be able to get resolved so simply. I will be sure to mention the amount of fees I have paid them. I added them up this morning and in 2014 I spent of $1,000,000 in fees. I will keep you posted as to what happens

tmonta 05-09-2015 03:44 PM

Re: Suspended from Amazon - what to do with inventory
 
And perhaps the appeals will not help but could you post or pm me a copy of the email you sent that eventually got them to call you? That may be helpful

Taking The Micky 05-09-2015 05:06 PM

Re: Suspended from Amazon - what to do with inventory
 
tmonta, you are giving amazon that much in fees and you don't have account manager within amazon, very strange, as your sales would be $5m+. One of my accounts has a turnover of around $1m and I have an account manager.

tmonta 05-09-2015 05:20 PM

Re: Suspended from Amazon - what to do with inventory
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Taking The Micky (Post 667723)
tmonta, you are giving amazon that much in fees and you don't have account manager within amazon, very strange, as your sales would be $5m+. One of my accounts has a turnover of around $1m and I have an account manager.

No actually I do not have an account manager. I have asked for one and have been told they do not offer that. Last year I did 1.8m in sales. I sell very low ticket items. My average sale is approx $9.50.

drazzk 05-14-2015 10:58 PM

Re: Suspended from Amazon - what to do with inventory
 
Hello,

I also have the same exact issue. I am selling generic items and gotten message from Amazon Seller Support about the product details is inaccurate. What should I do with this issue?

tmonta 05-16-2015 05:38 AM

Re: Suspended from Amazon - what to do with inventory
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by drazzk (Post 669524)
Hello,

I also have the same exact issue. I am selling generic items and gotten message from Amazon Seller Support about the product details is inaccurate. What should I do with this issue?

I really do not have an answer yet as I am still in the middle of all this. We are in the process of investigating the whole thing so we can send an email to Jeff. During the investigation some things have changed. We found out that the two policy warnings we got were caused by another seller sabotaging us. Apparently they changed the product detail pages, purchased two items from us, complained to Amazon that they were not as described, and then changed the detail pages back after the fact.

Henny XO 05-17-2015 03:29 PM

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This is what happens when you put your inventory in the hands of another entity. :nono:


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