why not use a regular CC?

GhostOfAmazon · #45 06-30-2015

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Originally Posted by SM2015

Machine1 and GhostofAmazon

What is cake, I have been searching forums..what is it.

How do we not use EIN or SSN
I know about spreading sales out which is doable with Ebay, but
not really with amazon.

GhostofAmazon, I know you are talking about Amazon,
how do we do it, how do I give them cake!

cake = f@ke.

estrada · #46 07-01-2015

It just doesn't work any more. I have tried 25,50,100 even those ones with variable amounts (25-500 or whatever, I tried all sorts of amounts 25,50,100 even 300). It just does not work. Now I will have to use all those cards to purchase groceries lol.

rsot · #47 07-01-2015

MM78 has some posts about the card with image provided

daveaite · #48 07-01-2015

You guys are tough on Paul, his questions are valid. Was wondering the same thing myself. I'm all about creating a legit solid, fba business. The concept of using real credit cards seems most ideal for amazon..not ideal to your credit line if you have a ton of accounts.

For me I'm doing 1 solid account for now. And as I get more comfortable with Stealth I'll open a few more.

It is very time consuming at first...even the wait for the legit credit card in the mail is painful. lol

MM78 · #49 07-01-2015

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Originally Posted by daveaite

You guys are tough on Paul, his questions are valid. Was wondering the same thing myself. I'm all about creating a legit solid, fba business. The concept of using real credit cards seems most ideal for amazon..not ideal to your credit line if you have a ton of accounts.

For me I'm doing 1 solid account for now. And as I get more comfortable with Stealth I'll open a few more.

It is very time consuming at first...even the wait for the legit credit card in the mail is painful. lol

If there was such a thing as "1 safe account" this forum would only be about 2 pages deep, there would be no more discussions needed. The word "Safe" is a fairy tale, it doesn't exist in the realm of Stealth. That doesn't mean that an account can't last a long time but why put yourself in that state of mind when you can have 5-10 accounts all working for you.

Take for example the thread about Gift Cards for verifying Amazon.....It's a problem, was it a problem a few months ago? No...it wasn't.

metatrade · #50 07-03-2015

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Originally Posted by quantum773

Just tried to open a new acct with a 25 vanilla visa and didnt work. Looks like they're really cracking down. I went and changed my billing address on my real cc to match my stealth address and it worked fine. Now Im curious to see what would happen if I changed my billing address back.

I think they check if the card details match when it comes to disbursement and you will be rumbled.

Lucifer · #51 07-03-2015

Any update for UK sellers??

daveaite · #52 07-04-2015

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Originally Posted by MM78

If there was such a thing as "1 safe account" this forum would only be about 2 pages deep, there would be no more discussions needed. The word "Safe" is a fairy tale, it doesn't exist in the realm of Stealth. That doesn't mean that an account can't last a long time but why put yourself in that state of mind when you can have 5-10 accounts all working for you.

Take for example the thread about Gift Cards for verifying Amazon.....It's a problem, was it a problem a few months ago? No...it wasn't.

I agree it would be nice to get to 3-4 solid accounts. The gift card method seems sketchy to me...as in amazon could quickly identify anyone whos used a gift card to create an account.. and then monitor those accounts deeper.

The "legit accounts...from what I've been reading is the approach of - create a llc, open a credit card, bank account under that LLC, and perform business under that LLC name/ein/bank account/credit card, all under new name and new address.

I just happened to move so it works out well.. not even using a po box but a real address. lol

(This is not meant to be advice to anyone, as I'm still learning best practices.)

mhhbizz · #53 07-04-2015

I would agree with OP. But you still should be prepared with anything. Don't put all eggs in a basket. Just check the Amazon support forum at their website there are loads of people complaining about suspension although they were legit sellers for months.

wooha · #54 07-06-2015

From a post I made previously that Taking The Micky replied with, he mentioned that Amazon doesn't check/verify the CC holder's name, and I would assume what they dont check, what can't flag.

Add to the fact that Amz (.com) doesnt even ask for your CC address when you first sign up (unless you fail the verification from the get-go, when then you do need to provide).

Adding those 2 together: 1) if you don't need to provide your CC address initially, and 2) the CC name doesnt matter (so it could even be same as your real name), why WOULDN'T you just register x CC's as OP asked originally? Donno about the UK, but in the US and Canada, it's like they give CC's out for free...so it technically wouldn't be that hard to accumulate many cards over 5-15 days time.

Of course, if Amz DOES verify and check the CC holder name, and flaggable because of that factor, then that's another story.

Or am I missing something?

GhostOfAmazon · #55 07-07-2015

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Originally Posted by wooha

Adding those 2 together: 1) if you don't need to provide your CC address initially, and 2) the CC name doesnt matter (so it could even be same as your real name), why WOULDN'T you just register x CC's as OP asked originally? Donno about the UK, but in the US and Canada, it's like they give CC's out for free...so it technically wouldn't be that hard to accumulate many cards over 5-15 days time.

I've addressed this in multiple posts. Amazon does NOT verify your name, ONLY the house # and zip code.

i.e. your address is
123 Main Street
Anytown, NY, 45678

Amazon only verifies the house # (123) and the zip code (45678)

Although you are correct that credit cards are basically given away for free, opening too many in a short period of time would hurt your credit score. Much better to simply use a debit card for this.

rsot · #56 07-07-2015

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Originally Posted by GhostOfAmazon

Much better to simply use a debit card for this.

What are you suggesting here? Just clarifying about use of debit card...

mhhbizz · #57 07-07-2015

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Originally Posted by GhostOfAmazon

I've addressed this in multiple posts. Amazon does NOT verify your name, ONLY the house # and zip code.

i.e. your address is
123 Main Street
Anytown, NY, 45678

Amazon only verifies the house # (123) and the zip code (45678)

Although you are correct that credit cards are basically given away for free, opening too many in a short period of time would hurt your credit score. Much better to simply use a debit card for this.

I tried this using Amazon UK. it doesnt work. so maybe just US?

Freakzilla · #58 07-07-2015

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Originally Posted by mhhbizz

I tried this using Amazon UK. it doesnt work. so maybe just US?

What details were the same as your registered address?

GhostOfAmazon · #59 07-07-2015

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Originally Posted by rsot

What are you suggesting here? Just clarifying about use of debit card...

In the US, debit cards, and checking accounts are NOT reported to the credit bureaus, and DO NOT affect your score.

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Originally Posted by mhhbizz

I tried this using Amazon UK. it doesnt work. so maybe just US?

James North has already verified that in the UK, there are no two house #s and zip codes that match. EVERY house # in a zip code is unique. I can only verify this method works in the US. I have no knowledge of other countries. Test and find out.