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paulperson 05-31-2015 06:00 PM

why not use a regular CC?
 
Many here use vanilla cards,.... prepaid, ...
why not use a regular credit card just like AZ asks for?
If a card is burned or linked you tell your bank it is lost and they send you a new one with a new number

?!?!?!

Why is everyone not doing this?
What am I missing ?

JamesNorth101 05-31-2015 06:01 PM

Re: why not use a regular CC?
 
Real cards fail the AVS checks.

SilentHill 05-31-2015 06:01 PM

Re: why not use a regular CC?
 
you already have a thread open. You should keep this in the same thread. As James said it wont pass AVS verification

paulperson 05-31-2015 06:02 PM

Re: why not use a regular CC?
 
Why do they fail?
Why not enter the info on the card ?
Address, zip code, ... same as on the card

If burned you find new address and ask bank to update the billing address to the new address ?

Taking The Micky 05-31-2015 06:06 PM

Re: why not use a regular CC?
 
If you register the card to the address you will use on your amazon account this will work fine and pass an AVS check.

paulperson 05-31-2015 06:06 PM

Re: why not use a regular CC?
 
it's kinda a different question than the other thread

Taking The Micky 05-31-2015 06:07 PM

Re: why not use a regular CC?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JamesNorth101 (Post 673747)
Real cards fail the AVS checks.

Why will a real card fail an AVS. 99% of people use this method.

paulperson 05-31-2015 06:16 PM

Re: why not use a regular CC?
 
Talk The Micky:
yes that is my question.

why not use a real CC and if so what are the things to "watch for"

SilentHill 05-31-2015 06:22 PM

Re: why not use a regular CC?
 
That may work a few times but dont see you making multiple stealths without getting a call from your BANK

GhostOfAmazon 05-31-2015 06:24 PM

Re: why not use a regular CC?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by paulperson (Post 673746)
Many here use vanilla cards,.... prepaid, ...
why not use a regular credit card just like AZ asks for?
If a card is burned or linked you tell your bank it is lost and they send you a new one with a new number

?!?!?!

Why is everyone not doing this?
What am I missing ?

Because your REAL info will be on your REAL card, thus linking you to your BANNED account......

Common sense.

Taking The Micky 05-31-2015 06:30 PM

Re: why not use a regular CC?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GhostOfAmazon (Post 673757)
Because your REAL info will be on your REAL card, thus linking you to your BANNED account......

Common sense.

If the info is different to pass an AVS check then it will NOT be linked.

paulperson 05-31-2015 06:33 PM

Re: why not use a regular CC?
 
yes for sure this is not to make 100 accounts but then 1 good account is better than 100 that get canceled.

A good account can last for 6 month at a bare minimum
with the 3-4 credit cards I can do that every 6 month no problem :)

Is this not recommended to try to have a good account with a minimum of flags?
A real CC is not better than a pre-paid?

I am not an expert by any means but isn't using a Vanilla Card like a red flag?
It's almost like telling AZ that this is a stealth account ??!??!

JamesNorth101 05-31-2015 06:38 PM

Re: why not use a regular CC?
 
If you are trying to use a real card then your going to need to be changing the real cards registered address each time.

I do not know how it works in the US, but doing that in the UK messes with credit history.

ifox007 05-31-2015 06:45 PM

Re: why not use a regular CC?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by paulperson (Post 673760)
yes for sure this is not to make 100 accounts but then 1 good account is better than 100 that get canceled.

A good account can last for 6 month at a bare minimum
with the 3-4 credit cards I can do that every 6 month no problem :)

Is this not recommended to try to have a good account with a minimum of flags?
A real CC is not better than a pre-paid?

I am not an expert by any means but isn't using a Vanilla Card like a red flag?
It's almost like telling AZ that this is a stealth account ??!??!

Doesnt make any sense at all. If your other 100 accts get suspended, then the one with real cc ( 101 )should be suspended as well. The rule is that the method of creating accts should be solid. ( one fails, the rest of them should have failed).:ban?:

paulperson 05-31-2015 06:56 PM

Re: why not use a regular CC?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ifox007 (Post 673765)
Doesnt make any sense at all. If your other 100 accts get suspended, then the one with real cc ( 101 )should be suspended as well. The rule is that the method of creating accts should be solid. ( one fails, the rest of them should have failed).:ban?:

I am not getting you.

I guess my question is on here there seems to be 3 or 4 ways to create a new account. don't put ssn, some say put random name, ...
This is ok but I do not see how these new accounts created with random names can last in the long run.
I have not created 100 accounts I am just saying that using Random names seems to be good to create an account lasting a month but how can a random name, no SSN entered account last ????

For a new account to last doesn't it have to be all legit or as clost to all legit as possible?

how do accounts with random names last or prepaid cards last ?
Sorry if I don't understand all, I am new here and to the process.

SilentHill 05-31-2015 07:25 PM

Re: why not use a regular CC?
 
you can but you will be switching your banking information to these random addresses may also reflect your credit history. THIS IS NOT A GOOD IDEA. no way around.


Just find a good Gift Card or buy VCC from forums.

TonyAlmeida 05-31-2015 07:28 PM

Re: why not use a regular CC?
 
Quote:

how do accounts with random names last or prepaid cards last ?
They will last as long as you know how to operate them

Quote:

For a new account to last doesn't it have to be all legit or as clost to all legit as possible?
I think you need to define your "stealth" mean

paulperson 05-31-2015 07:31 PM

Re: why not use a regular CC?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SilentHill (Post 673774)
you can but you will be switching your banking information to these random addresses may also reflect your credit history. THIS IS NOT A GOOD IDEA. no way around.


Just find a good Gift Card or buy VCC from forums.


Well ok but I am on the 4th Vanilla Gift Card, ......
would be nice if someone point me to one that works

paulperson 05-31-2015 07:33 PM

Re: why not use a regular CC?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TonyAlmeida (Post 673776)
They will last as long as you know how to operate them

I think you need to define your "stealth" mean


I guess I do not need "Stealth" what I need is a working account to sale on AZ :)

I am not AZ BUT if I was AZ I would just look for every account registered with Vanilla Card and Ban them as Vanilla Card = Banned user trying to make a new account.
So that is why I am worried about the Vanilla Cards ....

TonyAlmeida 05-31-2015 07:35 PM

Re: why not use a regular CC?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by paulperson (Post 673779)
Well ok but I am on the 4th Vanilla Gift Card, ......
would be nice if someone point me to one that works

Every told you that get the $25 one but you wouldn't listen

TonyAlmeida 05-31-2015 07:37 PM

Re: why not use a regular CC?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by paulperson (Post 673782)
I guess I do not need "Stealth" what I need is a working account to sale on AZ :)

I am not AZ BUT if I was AZ I would just look for every account registered with Vanilla Card and Ban them as Vanilla Card = Banned user trying to make a new account.
So that is why I am worried about the Vanilla Cards ....

If you do not need stealth account, then what happen to your real one, the first one?

paulperson 05-31-2015 07:53 PM

Re: why not use a regular CC?
 
1st account got suspended.

What I mean is I do not need 10 stealth accounts.
I just need 1 that works and does not get linked

so I am thinking:
- parents address
- new LLC and EIN
- new Bank Account welsfargo (the debit card works for registration)

done.
100% legit just in a different name and of course different computer, mac and all.

I don't really understand why peoples need to create 10 accounts with vanilla cards. So I am asking.
The above process seems simple to me and I do not see why not everybody here is using it.


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