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can amazon detect VPS
 

I am just thinking to use VPS to open stealth amazon account, so i just want to be safe so can any one let me know if amazon can detect VPS server and if they can, could it put me in trouble?

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No, they can't.

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Technically, they can - a simple whois database search would return your VPS IP address as a datacenter. So at some point, they could put non-residential IPs under serious scrutiny (good to have backup plan like wireless dongle for the future). My theory is that Amazon uses a points system to detect stealth, similar to how your email uses points to detect spam - and datacenter IPs would carry a heavy weight. As a Computer Engineer, that's how I would do it if I worked on the other side of stealth for Amazon.

However, there are plenty of us who use VPN (or VPS if it makes you happy) with no problems - provided the IP is dedicated and clean (no recent history of abuse). I use this on 100% of my accounts with no problems so yea you're fine for now.

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The problem is that there is no way we can use dongle if we don't reside in USA and want to sell in USA. That's why the only option is VPS or VPN

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VPS works,and that's all you need to know.

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Do we have to worry about reliability of VPS service?

What do people recommend as best and most reliable VPS...or is that even a consideration?

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If you find a good one then best keep it to yourself. Every provider I have used has worked nicely

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Yes, they can. Whoever says they can't is 100% wrong (sorry but it's true). You can detect it easily by looking at ISP.

I do not know if they consider this in their algorithm but I'm 100% sure they can detect it.

Thanks

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Need to go for a less-commonly used VPS - 123 has some nice ones available.

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Does VPN register also as a "datacenter"?

Why would someone choose VPS over VPN? From understanding VPS is more for hosting purposes like websites and such, and VPN is more for privacy. Still not 100% clear on the VPS vs VPN issue though i've read some on it in the past.

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This is for VPS right? What about VPN?

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Even if the IP shows as a VPS so what? You think they have a VPS alarm that goes off?

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What new people have to learn especially on this forum that every question you are going ask has been asked several times before, just use the search function. Rarely anything comes up as new, gift cards maybe the latest in the last few years. If VPS or VPN was a problem/issue then there would be 100's of posts about it. People here have been using for many years without a problem. Many major companies use VPS/VPN for many reasons and I would imagine amazon uses in some fashion. So ask the question, if amazon could detect you use VPS/VPN why would it matter.

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VPN/VPS/proxy as far as stealth goes is all about ONE thing. IP address. That's IT. A proxy puts your browsers traffic behind an ip address, VPN puts your entire computer's traffic behind an ip address, VPS IS a computer behind an ip address.

Everything from there has to do with the market. The reason even private proxies are often bad is because proxies are frequently abused so you're more likely to get a bad proxy on a blacklist. People who use VPNs typically use them for business/home stuff, so the IP addresses that happen to be associated with that connection are less likely to have been abused before. There is truly no such thing as a "fresh" IP - it's all about whether or not it has been abused. A given is that proxies have been abused lol so that's why VPN is an easy "go to". Because VPS is even more expensive and some of these machines have been around for a while, their IP addresses might be less likely to be abused. All of these have IPs that come from datacenters so it's all about which pool of IPs your particular service (VPN/VPS/proxy) is coming from.

If you think otherwise, please explain vvvvvvvvv

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If you are in US, there are many options for you beside VPS and VPN

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Agree with Tony - look at dongles, cellphone tethering as options

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I'm trying to make an account for my father who shares the same IP as me in one home. I do spend a good amount of time in cafes and such, but there are times our IP will overlap. I haven't decided if he will use my laptop yet in the instance he does log into his account.

Do you recommend setting up a VPN, or is it better to notify Amazon that I'm setting up a relative an account and will frequently "visit" that home and go on my own Amazon account?

Thank you so much!

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@billgraham, if you're in the USA, you could look at dongle use or cellphone tethering as suitable options

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Dongle, new ISP, VPN are all good options to solve the issue you are having

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Thanks for writing. I've already logged onto my own account via cell-phone tethering, so I believe that association between device/laptop and hotspot/tethering has already been created.

Could you elaborate on dongle usage? Just stick it in the USB slot and connect to the home's network via dongle?

I've heard the software/service VMware being thrown around. Is this also an easy alternative?

Appreciate your help and time!

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The dongle is a 3G/4G/LTE connection to whatever ISP (tmobile, att, verizon). You will get an IP address / internet connection from whatever carrier hotspot you choose.

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VPS is fine. I have 20+ Amazon accounts all on VPS -- spread across several service providers just to be safe.

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what vps company you are using, I'm using virmach and digital oceans, but it seems they are abused.

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VPS is not recommended for Amazon stealth. instead get a new laptop + fresh IP. Either with a VPN or some other ISP. If you don't want to go that route, get vmware and create virtual machines

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Looks like VPS alone is frowned upon. For those who elect not to get a new laptop, seems like the next, best option is VMware and creating a virtual machine.

How difficult is this next, best route?

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VMWare + Virtual machines is not difficult. It may require an hour so of getting familiar with the program but other than the initial setup its very straight forward :)

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hi. Can you advise why VPS is not recommended?

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Many VPS are abused and thus blacklisted or flagged by Amazon. Know one knows 100% sure on what Amazon does or which providers are but you can presume many are. Would you really want to risk getting an IP that was just used with another suspended account? No. Not a way to create a business.

You want a fresh IP which has never used before so you dont risk your account.

IP Burger and 24VC are both good options.

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I've been saying it forever...VPS are ****, WORTHLESS! Stop using them!

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^^^ I know we're talking about Amazon... Which I have no experience with...

But what makes a VPN any different than a VPS running remote access software?

I havent tried it myself, but I know a few people that control there mining rigs with... I think its VNC for the remote software, and through a OpenVPN tunnel.

I use teamviewer to control my rigs, which I know for fact is easily detectable by the open ports...

But I would think if the connection to the server was through VPN it would work...

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I think it's good enough

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100% amazon knows if you’re using a vpn. Most likely not an issue until there’s a manual review, even then a tiny factor.

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If we speak from the technical point, VPS (virtual private server) is more secure than every VPN. Why? Lets find out how VPN works:

https://www.quora.com/Is-VPS-Virtual...cation-privacy

https://vpsboard.com/threads/which-i...94/#post-68928


Why you need US IP for selling in USA? I'm from EU and selling in US without a problem from a long time.

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Glad I read this as I was going to use VPS. I'm now going with the new computer and VPN.

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I used VPN for years with Amazon, the cheapest and most ABUSED ones! I even logged in from dodgy computers in dodgy countries without issues.

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VPS is not very safe because they're frequently recycled

VPN is better because your system fingerprint will be more unique

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Using dedicated IP (PureVPN) and Vmware. Completely new IP and VM, new CC with ta billing address never used before (my girlfriend's). Account locked as soon as I made first order. Can't understand what Amazon DE are doing.

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Could be the source of your IPs sussu007, or possibly blacklisted the cc you are using if its a prepaid or reloadable card

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if everything is fresh, than you should check your VPN, could be your ip address has been blacklisted, have you used this VPN before, and was it successful? And always remember to write down every ip address you login with your account.

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Make sure you VPS is not used. It must be new and fresh window installed.
They have not such resource to check VPS