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| tcoop2g | 01-02-2016 05:44 PM | Stealth accounts getting deleted right after 1st disbursement Followed all the steps for stealth.....new user acc, new ip, new acct. info, etc.
Last 2 stealth accounts deleted right after I received the email that my payment was on the way. Of course payment never reached my account. Does this trigger a manual review? Both accounts over 30 days old and have 10+ positive feedback no negatives. I know I am being linked in some way. Can anyone help or had the same experiences? Btw I sell low risk items nothing close to vero items or foo foo items all legit items.
Thanks for any help! |
| brandnewboss | 01-02-2016 05:50 PM | Re: Stealth accounts getting deleted right after 1st disbursement Exactly why I don't sell on Amazon |
| tcoop2g | 01-02-2016 05:57 PM | Re: Stealth accounts getting deleted right after 1st disbursement I have to be overlooking something. I just dont know what it is. |
| brandnewboss | 01-02-2016 05:59 PM | Re: Stealth accounts getting deleted right after 1st disbursement Quote:
Originally Posted by tcoop2g
(Post 733494)
I have to be overlooking something. I just dont know what it is. | Most people use VMware for amazon |
| yankee | 01-02-2016 05:59 PM | Re: Stealth accounts getting deleted right after 1st disbursement What are your steps to open a new account?
Everything is new? New ip, name, address, bank, phone, etc..
What are you doing for a credit card?
Are the items the same on both accounts? If so, also the same on old suspended or deleted accounts? |
| tcoop2g | 01-02-2016 06:06 PM | Re: Stealth accounts getting deleted right after 1st disbursement Yes everything was new...new computer, new fresh ip address, new addy, new bank, new phone #,
I purchased a VCC from a certified seller on the forum.
All items were different but in the same category. Both stealth accounts were deleted after the your payment is on the way email.
No warning/suspension and no email kept my funds which wasn't much but all orders were delivered with perfect feedback. |
| brandnewboss | 01-02-2016 06:08 PM | Re: Stealth accounts getting deleted right after 1st disbursement I've had account linked using windows users before |
| yankee | 01-02-2016 06:12 PM | Re: Stealth accounts getting deleted right after 1st disbursement Quote:
Originally Posted by brandnewboss
(Post 733498)
I've had account linked using windows users before | Lost of mixed results. All admin window users are know to cause flash cookie links.
Users on Mac seems to be no problem. |
| yankee | 01-02-2016 06:14 PM | Re: Stealth accounts getting deleted right after 1st disbursement Quote:
Originally Posted by tcoop2g
(Post 733497)
Yes everything was new...new computer, new fresh ip address, new addy, new bank, new phone #,
I purchased a VCC from a certified seller on the forum.
All items were different but in the same category. Both stealth accounts were deleted after the your payment is on the way email.
No warning/suspension and no email kept my funds which wasn't much but all orders were delivered with perfect feedback. | same UPC codes as old suspended accounts?
Where you drastically under pricing competition? Beating Amazons price by a lot? |
| Taking The Micky | 01-02-2016 06:16 PM | Re: Stealth accounts getting deleted right after 1st disbursement I would suspect its the VCC as this is charged $1 before your disbursement as everything is good until they decided to disburse. This in my opinion has nothing to do with linking of old accounts. |
| tcoop2g | 01-02-2016 06:19 PM | Re: Stealth accounts getting deleted right after 1st disbursement I was beating all competition but only by $1 to .50 cents but these are all low priced items usually $10 or less. Thanks for all the input I appreciate it. I will keep trying with this stealth thing. |
| tcoop2g | 01-02-2016 06:27 PM | Re: Stealth accounts getting deleted right after 1st disbursement Sorry wouldn't let me respond to your pm yankee but the response to your question is YES did that cause my account to get deleted? If so why didnt the account get banned at sign up? thanks |
| yankee | 01-02-2016 06:30 PM | Re: Stealth accounts getting deleted right after 1st disbursement Quote:
Originally Posted by tcoop2g
(Post 733507)
Sorry wouldn't let me respond to your pm yankee but the response to your question is YES did that cause my account to get deleted? If so why didnt the account get banned at sign up? thanks | I have some accounts with the same VCC and have had one account deleted within an hour of creation a couple weeks ago and really have no idea why. That one was impossible to be a link of any kind.
I was just curious. |
| TonyAlmeida | 01-04-2016 05:06 PM | Re: Stealth accounts getting deleted right after 1st disbursement Quote:
Originally Posted by yankee
(Post 733508)
That one was impossible to be a link of any kind. | How do you so sure about that? |
| yankee | 01-04-2016 05:25 PM | Re: Stealth accounts getting deleted right after 1st disbursement Quote:
Originally Posted by TonyAlmeida
(Post 734113)
How do you so sure about that? | Drove 1278 miles from my current location and at least 6 hours from my closest southern facility, bought a brand new Ipad from ATT store along with a new phone for a new LLC with its own hotspot, picked a local empty home(empty for many years) I was buying for an address, made up name, tellephone number from the new service and a proven VCC. never added a bank or tax info.
What could have possible linked my old or affiliated accounts? |
| james929 | 01-04-2016 06:10 PM | Re: Stealth accounts getting deleted right after 1st disbursement Quote:
Originally Posted by yankee
(Post 734115)
Drove 1278 miles from my current location and at least 6 hours from my closest southern facility, bought a brand new Ipad from ATT store along with a new phone for a new LLC with its own hotspot, picked a local empty home(empty for many years) I was buying for an address, made up name, tellephone number from the new service and a proven VCC. never added a bank or tax info.
What could have possible linked my old or affiliated accounts? | maybe the account was deleted in error or the vcc was used on another account?
or same name on account as someone who has been banned..? |
| yankee | 01-04-2016 06:14 PM | Re: Stealth accounts getting deleted right after 1st disbursement Quote:
Originally Posted by james921
(Post 734132)
maybe the account was deleted in error or the vcc was used on another account?
or same name on account as someone who has been banned..? | vcc can not have been used before and you cant be linked by name alone.
I have no idea why but it was not a link. Maybe just that day or the single item I listed. Also the creation of this account skipped some normal steps such as asking for the tax interview(not that it is required on personal accounts but always asked)
Maybe there was a problem with amazon at the moment. All I know it is the only account I personally have had deleted and I dont know why, lol
I do wonder of that VCC and it is the same as OP is now no longer good. |
| manoverde | 01-04-2016 06:40 PM | Re: Stealth accounts getting deleted right after 1st disbursement Quote:
Originally Posted by yankee
(Post 734133)
vcc can not have been used before and you cant be linked by name alone.
I have no idea why but it was not a link. Maybe just that day or the single item I listed. Also the creation of this account skipped some normal steps such as asking for the tax interview(not that it is required on personal accounts but always asked)
Maybe there was a problem with amazon at the moment. All I know it is the only account I personally have had deleted and I dont know why, lol
I do wonder of that VCC and it is the same as OP is now no longer good. | You never know if Amazon is getting personal information from your bank |
| yankee | 01-04-2016 06:46 PM | Re: Stealth accounts getting deleted right after 1st disbursement Quote:
Originally Posted by manoverde
(Post 734137)
You never know if Amazon is getting personal information from your bank | No bank was added and also, unless they withdraw from your bank, then can not get any info from it.
The account was deleted at almost exactly one hour of creation. |
| james929 | 01-04-2016 07:04 PM | Re: Stealth accounts getting deleted right after 1st disbursement Quote:
Originally Posted by yankee
(Post 734133)
vcc can not have been used before and you cant be linked by name alone.
I have no idea why but it was not a link. Maybe just that day or the single item I listed. Also the creation of this account skipped some normal steps such as asking for the tax interview(not that it is required on personal accounts but always asked)
Maybe there was a problem with amazon at the moment. All I know it is the only account I personally have had deleted and I dont know why, lol
I do wonder of that VCC and it is the same as OP is now no longer good. | hm have you created any accounts since successfully? and using the vcc? |
Re: Stealth accounts getting deleted right after 1st disbursement Quote:
Originally Posted by tcoop2g
(Post 733503)
I was beating all competition but only by $1 to .50 cents but these are all low priced items usually $10 or less. Thanks for all the input I appreciate it. I will keep trying with this stealth thing. | Undercutting all other sellers as a new seller can look bad especially if items are high-risk/iffy - are they? |
| TonyAlmeida | 01-04-2016 08:46 PM | Re: Stealth accounts getting deleted right after 1st disbursement Quote:
Originally Posted by yankee
(Post 734115)
Drove 1278 miles from my current location and at least 6 hours from my closest southern facility, bought a brand new Ipad from ATT store along with a new phone for a new LLC with its own hotspot, picked a local empty home(empty for many years) I was buying for an address, made up name, tellephone number from the new service and a proven VCC. never added a bank or tax info.
What could have possible linked my old or affiliated accounts? | Amazon know more than just those info. Machine learning/data mining very powerful |
| yankee | 01-04-2016 08:49 PM | Re: Stealth accounts getting deleted right after 1st disbursement Quote:
Originally Posted by TonyAlmeida
(Post 734172)
Amazon know more than just those info. Machine learning/data mining very powerful | Well a brand new never used device. I set the thing up at the ATT store right out of the package. It is not a possible link to anything, especially not the device. |
| TonyAlmeida | 01-04-2016 08:52 PM | Re: Stealth accounts getting deleted right after 1st disbursement Quote:
Originally Posted by yankee
(Post 734173)
Well a brand new never used device. I set the thing up at the ATT store right out of the package. It is not a possible link to anything, especially not the device. | I'm not saying you were linked by the device. If you know what is machine learning and data mining you will be surprise what the big company like Amazon, Facebook know about you. |
| Taking The Micky | 01-04-2016 09:33 PM | Re: Stealth accounts getting deleted right after 1st disbursement Yankee, is the account that suspended/deleted due to listing the same product or a different account. |
| yankee | 01-04-2016 09:35 PM | Re: Stealth accounts getting deleted right after 1st disbursement |
| Taking The Micky | 01-04-2016 09:36 PM | Re: Stealth accounts getting deleted right after 1st disbursement Regarding the Apple, did you set up with your i-tunes account or have any apps that were automatically installed from other i cloud devices. I use MAC but with different users and always set up without any i cloud connection. |
| yankee | 01-04-2016 09:48 PM | Re: Stealth accounts getting deleted right after 1st disbursement Quote:
Originally Posted by Taking The Micky
(Post 734188)
Regarding the Apple, did you set up with your i-tunes account or have any apps that were automatically installed from other i cloud devices. I use MAC but with different users and always set up without any i cloud connection. | That is interesting that you feel icloud or apps could do it. Something I have never considered.
I have never used amazon on an apple device before and never the app(I don't even know if amazon has a selling app)
I have a couple apps to keep ebay accounts separate on ipads (basically separate users) and have not yet tested to see if it is good for amazon.
Thanks for the eye opener for the future about apps and icloud! |
| Taking The Micky | 01-05-2016 12:44 AM | Re: Stealth accounts getting deleted right after 1st disbursement Its just a thought that could have caused the linkage. I know all my apple devices link to each other and who knows what info is passed from device to the other. |
| tcoop2g | 01-05-2016 11:07 AM | Re: Stealth accounts getting deleted right after 1st disbursement Quote:
Originally Posted by rsot
(Post 734160)
Undercutting all other sellers as a new seller can look bad especially if items are high-risk/iffy - are they? | No not even closed to high priced or iffy items on this account. I don't deal with those type of items. |
| sherry44 | 01-05-2016 10:58 PM | Re: Stealth accounts getting deleted right after 1st disbursement usually it happends if you don`t have an active credit or debit card attached to your amazon, due to new security on Amazon, Amazon is charging £1.00 at each disbursement , make sure you have working credit card linked to your amazon sellers account ! |
| kenzamb1415 | 02-13-2016 06:09 PM | Re: Stealth accounts getting deleted right after 1st disbursement You said you used an ipad as your computer?
Did you download and use the amazon app for any of your accounts at any time and did you previously use the app for your first account that was suspended?
If you use the app across multiple accounts I believe this links you as well as on ebay and their app. I don't believe you can easily clear the data from the app/icloud attached to your apple account if at all. You can use a new apple account but this would be a hassle signing in and out of apple accounts. Better to just not use app at all.
Also, even if not using app for multiple accounts I believe they delete accounts for constantly having no cookies when they log in, or in conjuction with listing the same items.
I lost several thousand dollars to stealth account deletions so I am very careful with Amazon now. I actually only have one stealth that is currently in need of an EIN deal very soon. So I do not know if multiple accounts over different user accounts IPs and all diff info will work but I assume it does for many. Ask Ghost of Amazon (aka GOA). |
| incniu | 02-13-2016 06:38 PM | Re: Stealth accounts getting deleted right after 1st disbursement how can you 10+ positive feedback in a such short time Quote:
Originally Posted by tcoop2g
(Post 733491)
Followed all the steps for stealth.....new user acc, new ip, new acct. info, etc.
Last 2 stealth accounts deleted right after I received the email that my payment was on the way. Of course payment never reached my account. Does this trigger a manual review? Both accounts over 30 days old and have 10+ positive feedback no negatives. I know I am being linked in some way. Can anyone help or had the same experiences? Btw I sell low risk items nothing close to vero items or foo foo items all legit items.
Thanks for any help! | |
Re: Stealth accounts getting deleted right after 1st disbursement likely your VCC caused problem.
other thing is your apple app ( icloud), who knows what amazon can get from it ?
also some new pc you bought come with amazon app installed already, what i did is that delete it before i use it to create account. i am not sure, just in case the amazon app can find what we are using ( eg; VPN). |
| newjerseymax | 02-14-2016 01:14 AM | Re: Stealth accounts getting deleted right after 1st disbursement Gotta be the VCC..... |
| vela1987 | 02-14-2016 12:30 PM | Re: Stealth accounts getting deleted right after 1st disbursement My method which never gets linked & works perfectly,
I get anew computer , name , id , address , vv ,bank info and a dongle.
For first few weeks i create a facebook twitter etc browse alot to make some cookies on the new name and address.
Later i register the account like a newbie does slowly browing through their forums etc and few chats with amazon asking what is this and that.. etc
Now all set . will start listing one or two a week then i push it slowly ;)
Give it a try |
| vela1987 | 02-14-2016 12:31 PM | Re: Stealth accounts getting deleted right after 1st disbursement | | All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:55 PM. | |
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