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But both BTC and ETH go up and down at the same time as ETH is dependent on BTC going up and down. So I must be missing something.

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What good is having more of something if the value goes down? Maybe I missing what you mean by you dont care what the price is. Gain 25% of something that fluctuates 50% doesn't make much sense unless you are selling at the highs and re-buying at the lows.

I guess some of us here are missing what you really mean unless you are just thinking a long term hope it goes up forever and sell at retirement etc... and if it happens to go down no big deal because you didn't need the money anyways kinda deal(savings, not investment)

It appears the people who made a lot of money on BTC are mostly lucky and sold because if you didn't sell..... you didn't make anything.

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I still think as the governments loose more and more control that Crypto held on a physical wallet will be a huge hedge against hyper inflation or a world war(physical or cyber) currency collapse but I would not be trusting any government and leave much money in a bank or on an exchange after the past weeks.

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I play with several currencies.
The main ones I myself play with are ETH and BNB.
Yes they have a correlation to BTC but they still have variations to that ratio and the ratio between them and other currencies. It is not all that difficult to make a percent or two playing on those ratios. Might not sound like a lot but considering that can be done multiple times per month - it adds up real fast.

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I dont care about the price short term. If youre a true crypto enthusiast youre familiar with these fluctuations and the cyclical nature of this industry.
If you know anything of my views on crypto (and Ive been fairly vocal on the topic) Im a big believer in it long term. Im not looking at cashing out before 2025-2027. Until then the price is of little relevance to the way I do things.
It is my belief that by then BTC will cross the 100k barrier. Its not such a stretch considering how things have gone in the last few years and considering there will be another halving event in the duration.
I myself got much of mine when it was in the range of $170-$500 - so I leave it to your imagination to guess at how much I have and how much that 25% gain translates to...
As for what you said about selling it when it was high - 'high' is a relative term. I could have sold when it was at $5k and considering I bought in at less than 10% of that I would have made a killing. But I wouldnt be able to retire (at least not at the standards I have in mind). I could have sold at 50k - but at that point its pointless to do so when you have as much invested in this as I do. I can afford to ride the waves to 100k and beyond - especially since I am still making money doing what I do (i.e. swap trading). In the meantime selling a BTC or two here and there gives me all I need to keep going (regardless of the pricepoint at that given moment of selling) and has minimal impact on my bottom line and the goal Im striving for since overall my crypto balance just keeps going up.
People like agent are short sighted and ignorant of how this market works. As someone said - he reminds me of chicken little. Its easy to tell others the sky is falling and to sell and offer absurd and baseless advice when you yourself have nothing on the line.

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Sure thing moron.
You havnt heard a single word I said.
Keep it up jacka$$.

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Because of your input, a buddy and myself moved five coins to stable coin last week right as it started to crash again and looks like we could almost double our holdings soon with the same capital out of pocket.
Thanks!

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I was going to start a thread but decided this one gets plenty of action. Does anyone here collect crypto as payment or use it in their businesses?

It appears you can manage it more easily as a business than Short term, long term, etc capital gains but I may be mistaken.

Any input would be great!

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You should maybe come up with a book for dummies and sell that for extra revenue too.

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Depends on your financial situation.

As you already know it's volatile and we are in the bear market, so if you don't need the money right away and just want to get paid in crypto so you can build a crypto portfolio then wait for the value to go up then yes. This was my situation.

But if you need the money now and cash flow is important I wouldn't.
Hence why recently I said I was thinking of liquidating when the value goes back to ATH and I'll put it in business so it can multiply faster.

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I'm talking Business accepts Crypto as payment. Not at all investing per say. I looked into it and most payment processing services will accept cyrto and instantly move to stable-coin so that lets say someone pays $10,000 and all of a sudden you have $7000 etc. It appears that as far a business, it isn't handled as an investment and only as a payment so there is some serious upside potential with very managed downsides.

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Yeah, I recently started accepting crypto and would exchange it to stable coins.

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Is there such thing as a stable coin though?

The only thing that's stable and goes up and down only by 1 cent is USD.

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There's a couple. USDC, USDT, etc.
I personally take USDC and Dai.

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Quite a few linked into the value of Fiat currencies

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I don't consider them investment coins. But yea, they are stable since they are basically US dollars

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Yeah they're not meant as investments but they do hold their value which is good to accept in terms of payments if a business wants to accept crypto without the volatility.

Out of the topic question: Is there a way to get notifications here for replies?

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You should have the option to turn on the subscription on the thread in your settings and that way you will get an email each time there there is a new post on that thread

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Hope everybody listened to Agent and sold their BTC when he told them to.
Oh wait...
LOL!
But seriously now - doing what he did is stupid so I will not repeat his stupidity no matter how high BTC climbs or sinks. It is pointless to look at any given moment in time when the proper way to evaluate it is as a continuum.
Agent - maybe apologize for the poor advice?

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I bet Nate is busy with his Crypto acquisition right now...

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It seems like Binance takes time when you buy or sell a coin... it doesn't happen immediately

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You keep coming back for more eh?

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You say some odd things bud

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I saw quite some posts on stablecoins lately.
I personally found out that these assets are not as secure as I was thinking.

In my opinion this is a quite interesting video to watch

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Youre a moron.

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That was an eloquent and thought out response. Good for you lol.
Ill repeat: youre a moron.
You keep coming back with your absurd 'predictions' and shameless 'recommendations' with no backing other then regurgitating someone else's assessments.
Youre an ignorant idiot pretending to know something about crypto.
The only thing you know is that youre not smart enough to invest in it yourself - as you yourself admitted.
So again, for the 100th time, please do us all a favor and just STFU!!! MORON!!!!!

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bitcoin will never go to the 10k$ mark
strong support at 29k level

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Never say never.

It's all a gamble with educated guess

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All I know is I'm making eff all money at the moment while it sits around this price point. I want money.

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Keep at it for sure

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You must be quiet a bit of money down, due to the price you paid.

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He came in when the prices are rather high...

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Still stalking me I see.

You're right though. Still patiently waiting and thankfully I don't need the money I put in. Not now anyway or for the forseeable future.

That's the key I think, just put in what you don't have to touch for several years.

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Could buy on the dips and hold as well - if within budget

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Just wondered how you are hun. Buying so high, it can't be easy being down that much. From your previous outbursts I could see it was effecting you.

Glad you are OK.

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If ETH drops down to the 200 day moving average I'd suggest throwing everything you have at it. It would be the deal of the decade. Same goes for BTC. But ETH is going to create more wealth at this point.

Any time ETH is down 50% like it is now this is when to buy by dollar cost averaging. Not at the top when everyone is excited.

@james_112233
Your earning your stripes right now... When I earned my stripes I had invested 30k in hardware & btc... Made it all back plus profit in a couple months, then watched it all get vaporized. ETH was $1.4k and I rode it all the way down to $80. Almost everyone I talked to on this forum kept telling me to sell. But I had conviction. I had no doubt 2020 would be my year of glory.

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Hahaha Slokor, Our Crypto King :-)

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Did agent finally get booted off the site lol ? can't see his pointless posts anymore.

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:eek: morning chuckles

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Best Crypto news of the week right there! LOL!