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importing from china
 

Hi Guys,

I am planning to import some items from China. I was wondering what is the best method of payment for me as a buyer to be in a safe place, to ensure the goods are as described.

Escrow / paypal or any other method.

Please help guys. I appreciate.

Many Thanks.

PayPal is being weeded out on many wholesale overseas sites, since I am sure there were wayyyy too many issues considering the products they sell. I use credit card on aliexpress.com and have had zero issues for years, but I do not buy phake items. I have also contacted my bank and notified them of my business, since many of purchases are from overseas. This comes into play, when you are dealing with more charge backs than the average person has to deal with.

concure. Always buy off Aliexpress with c.c, moneybookers etc.
Paypal dont like paying for goods from there,they will limit you quite quick

I agree CC is your best bet my advice though do your research on the seller before you buy,because they will always send the item but when you get it if your not happy they will refund but you have to send the package back to China at your cost

Do your homework and find a good reliable seller and that won't happen don't pay for anything via western union until you have a bit of experience under your belt


oh and by the way if your gonna use ali or dh most transactions are done through escrow so you should be ok

:juggle:

Aliexpress and DHgate are trustworthy from the standpoint that both are publicly traded Chinese companies. I even have used the EWallet on DHgate with no problems.

Having said that, NEVER pay a seller outside of those sites, ALWAYS use their escrow. It is the default payment method.

NEVER use PayPal as a payment method. You will lose the attached eBay account, especially if it is a seller account.

Be aware that MANY, but not all, sellers on DHgate and AliExpress sell counterfeit merchandise. If you buy such merchandise, and it is seized by customs, a refund is NOT automatic. You have to make your case to the sites, and it could go either way.

Other than that, just use your judgment the same way you would if buying from eBay. Is the price in line more or less, with others selling the same thing? How is the seller's feedback? PAY ATTENTION TO WHAT THE NEGATIVES SAY! Some negatives can be ignored, such as "took almost 10 days to get my stuff" which is normal. Others may say "counterfeit merchandise seized by customs, seller refused to refund" which is something to watch out for.

Yeah good points.
I have a trustworthy seller who i researched for a long time.
Ask plenty of questions etc.
Always ask obliqe questions.
Remember to always ask for sample product!!!

credit card can sometimes give you protection but actually, you try proving it and getting a chargeback sorted, been there, very hard.

Paying direct to their paypal gives you protection though for snad and non receipt ( well snad returns can be difficult if they do not intend to refund) ie not paying via site but just straight to pp.
Whatever you choose your first couple of deals with a seller will be worrisome but after you gain trust both ways most china sellers are really good, because they want your repeat business, and you can sometimes send money from stealth acc and deliver to real address....china seller and you both have incentive to work things out rather than fight on paypal disputes and potentially lose both your paypals.......

oomps has it right here.

Paying by PP is not something I would do, as previously discussed.

Paying by CC is the only way I would like to do business on there. I have been paying that way since day 1 and had no problems.

As said, pick a reliable big seller and you should have no problems. Small sellers can be good too, but always test them out with a smaller quantity first.

I never had any need to do any complaints to the CC company as the stuff received is always excellent quality and the products bought have brought good money in.

Not sure were your getting your info Jeff but if items are seized using DHgate, you WILL get your money back. It may take some time until you receive seizure letter to then scan and email to DHgate. Normally though, if you have a good seller, those therms are discussed before items are sent to you. I don't see not getting your money back as an issue at all.

Also, I too use Paypal exclusively to buy from overseas companies such as DHgate. I've spent over $35k on one of my paypal accounts with attached eBay account that has alas, been suspended years ago. So yes, having a separate paypal account not attatche to any eBay account could prove beneficial.

actually ebayking, I said paypal was ok to pay with too! as long as not via dhgate but direct.

i always use dhgate, never had any problems, they take paypal

china import
 

Hi Guys,

Many Thanks guys. :clap:


If I pay via credit card then I wont be able to order in quantity. Most of the suppliers from Asia doest not accept paypal and Escrow.

I am confused what is the best and secured way to do the transaction.

:pry:

of course you can order quantity with card, escrow or paypal, if a supplier is not compliant, there will be another that is. Alot say they do not accept paypal, but if they want your business, and you insist, suddenly they accept it...

I am a long term supplier from China
 

Hi,
I can share you some of my experience.
I have a customer who sell items on ebay and another customer who sells in US.
I think a good beginning is the most important. You can make business with him beginning at a small amount. And you will find whether he is you want or not.

Since when ? Ive lost PP accounts because of sending payments to China before. If you send big enough amounts they eventually come back and hold the money then your supplier gets annoyed as you have received their goods but the money is now held. Try explaining that to someone writing in broken english...

Where have you learnt this from? Also are you sending as a gift or service?

what about just buying lets say a pair of sneakers for yourself, will the Paypal account have issues if its not attached to a ebay but receives mass payments, or payments that were owed.

Might be risky

Your looking for a suspension right there, buying from China with PP is deemed to fail.

it may fail and it may not. i would however, discourage anyone from using paypal to buy from dhgate and then selling the merch on the attached ebay account. they WILL nuke both paypal and ebay.

ive had luck buying on one paypal and then selling on a different ebay. i like using paypal because you get that one extra level of protection if you dont get your items, OR if they are junk when you get them.

I know about 99% of the people here don't like sending cash through Western Union but that's the only way I have done it and to me I just include it in the cost of the merchandise. As of lately though I have been using MoneyGram which is cheaper so it's not bad and works for me.

People talking about using paypal on dhgate can not do it anymore, they have had paypal problems because of the charge backs and their account suspended.

I am regularly buying from china and use wire transfer from my bank, when I used to buy containers to ship to my UK company I used the UK banks letter of credit whereby the bank is the stakeholder and when the container reached port you released the payment.

That's strange, I placed two orders yesterday and paid with paypal.

All this talk that if paypal is used to buy on dhgate it will cause account suspension is utter rubbish. The potential problems only arise if you then try and sell the items using the same pp account.

Even if they axe the pp account, what's the big deal? Go and register another vcc, set up a new account and continue buying.

Why is it that they allow you to buy from there but the minute you start selling those items on that PP they axe you... never understood the concept?

Because it is then clear to them that you're reselling the stuff you've bought on Dhgate (99% of which is counterfeit). Funnily enough, Paypal doesn't like this.

Paypal is such an amazing company :fight: :pound:

Yes DHGate most will be counterfeit but was aiming my comment more to the people who are purchasing non branded goods...

Also even if your using PP to pay a Chinese seller not through one of those sites, they still end up holding money after 1 or 2 payments..

What is wrong with using a Credit Card / Debit Card directly on DHgate?

That is the way I have been doing it for years. Not one problem ever.

There should be no need to pay through PP via a Credit / Debit Card.
I would not want my personal address going on a PayPal database ever.

If you start doing chargebacks on DHgate, you will be blacklisted. Any problems are best sorted out via the DHgate resolution centre and discussion with the seller.

As long as you choose the right seller on DHgate, start off small, what can go wrong? Picking the right seller takes only marginal skill and the payment is still not released to the seller by DHgate until you have your item.

There are genuine items on DHgate too, just needs work finding them.

(Note: I do not work for DHgate! :D)

@Ebay King-Agreed. At least when you use your credit card,you get rewards back. What do you get from Paypal besides headache?
Just a warning Dh doesnt accept Mastercards.

@boszika, I went back to dhg to buy something personal but it's weird...every time I want to pay by credit card, it always go to Pp site to process the cc...do you know of a way to force just using the dhg's cc processor and not PP?

@rsot-Hmm...Odd.When it says pay for your order,it always has the cc option.

I didnt pay with cc for a while now,just with WU,because I only had Mastercards. My next order I will use my new cc,that I'm waiting in the mail.

I will let you know how it went, in the meantime maybe try a different browser :noidea:

i think if you send a lump sum to a chinese suppliers paypal there is always a risk of it getting held and returned........as the supplier may already be under scrutiny by paypal

but i dont think sending money to dhgate will cause issues,this is a big reputable company,although it is renowned for phakes

i used to pay my old supplier with moneygram every time,no issues,its just finding a trustworthy supplier

i made a purchase off dhgate not so long back using prepaid visa credit card

went straight through no problems

@rsot not sure if this will help but i told the supplier beforehand i was paying with credit card and he sent me an invoice

Using a stand alone Paypal account (eBay attached to it permanently suspended two years ago), I have purchased almost $50,000 using that same Paypal account to buy from DHGate. No problems obviously with limitations and whatnot.

what kind of fees are attached? i saw some stuff i want

You have to ask what payment methods your supplier accept for and then choose the best safest one for you.As we known,different suppliers,different situation;different stuff,different situation.

If you are about to purchase OEM products from factory ,and the best safestl payment is LC but now most people using T/T deposit,balance against B/L copy or against inspection third party full QC report,of cource ususally the buyer have been meet the supplier before this deal.

If you are about to buy small QTY(usually shipping by express mail),most chinese sellers only accept paypal ,if you think paypal is not fair,i donot think they will agree on a deal with you easiler.Of cource,wholesale platforum like DHGATE or aliexpress are excluded.

Like some people said before,you can buy a small QTY to start,slowly you will know how to deal and then you are able to share your experience here.

teedon is right and also remember if you are doing a wire transfer from here in the states the banks are required to know why you are transfering money and may also require sight of an invoice at a branch, also the cost at my bank if you do not have online facilities is $65, so if you are doing a 30% 70% payment it is another $130 onto your goods purchase price.

I would od this.

I would rent a address (PO Box or UPS) depending on shipment. Create a stealth paypal for buying only. Do not attach ebay. I fund the paypal with a gift card. Its good for disputes (paypal protection). If account gets closed then no big loss. Also, if address gets flagged by customs for some reason then you will not lose anything real.

Good idea?

thaks for the Aliexpress source im checking it out now

I used to buy from dhgate before with paypal(with ebay attached)

Did not have any problems

Just my 2 cents

If you really want to be safe, purchase using a PayPal using a credit card. If you don't get the merchandise you can dispute, and then if that doesn't work you can always resort to a chargeback. That way, you'll have two layers of protection.

Re: importing from china
 

Recently my paypal was limited, sent in required documents and was good to go. A few days passed and I sent $4000 to a Chinese supplier. 12 hours later I get this message "YOU CAN NO LONGER USE PAYPAL, TOO MUCH RISK, BLAH BLAH BLAH".
I'M NEVER PAYING A CHINESE SUPPLIER THRU PAYPAL AGAIN!