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| jojo2012 | 11-09-2016 04:02 PM | American election So now that the American election is over maybe people will start to look into shopping for the upcoming holidays. Might be a good time reevaluate the extremely low price point I'm seeing all over eBay. Ahemm |
| phaz0rz | 11-09-2016 04:15 PM | Re: American election Anyone else notice a slump in sales over the past 24 hours? We were 25-30% below average in sales volume today. :(
I'm hoping everyone was just busy voting or building their bunker.
There was already an election thread, BTW. |
| jjohnson777 | 11-09-2016 09:54 PM | Re: American election Too tired to buy be my idea. It could be good as people might hope life be better as billionaire businessman won. Know I more hopeful as now income can only go up after Obama destroying it past 8 years. Yet to see the recovery. 8 years no longer Bush fault. |
| yankee | 11-09-2016 10:16 PM | Re: American election I did really good the past three days BUT my items are in peak to just beyond peak.
Half the country is MUCH MORE confident and about 25% are scared to death. Sales will be volatile the next 9 months. |
| vogeltron | 11-09-2016 10:18 PM | Re: American election Quote:
Originally Posted by jjohnson777
(Post 811200)
Too tired to buy be my idea. It could be good as people might hope life be better as billionaire businessman won. Know I more hopeful as now income can only go up after Obama destroying it past 8 years. Yet to see the recovery. 8 years no longer Bush fault. | Well if you were selling Razors you would have done well today. In California here most people looked like they wanted to commit suicide.
I have the same hope that things normalize over the coming days. Sales have been slower the past few weeks. |
Re: American election People need to get over it, Trump won.....they need to get back to buying stuff. |
| Rhonda | 11-09-2016 11:45 PM | Re: American election Sales dropped dramatically today. Most of my sales are from the west coast. |
| aspkin | 11-10-2016 04:21 AM | Re: American election People are scared... makes sense.
Trump for president is scary..
Good news though! Something else will take the spot light and people will forget about Trump until January.
This is only short lasting. |
| Dufus | 11-10-2016 05:54 AM | Re: American election Zero sales from USA these 2 days. |
| vogeltron | 11-10-2016 06:47 AM | Re: American election Quote:
Originally Posted by aspkin
(Post 811227)
Trump for president is scary.. | No my friend. It is an amazing thing! They slayed the Dragon of the globalist elite. Finally, we have someone who isn't bought and paid for by anyone as president!! He doesn't even owe the Republican party anything they completely abandoned him!! McCain, Lindsey Graham even Ted Cruz. You are all flipping done!!!! Paul Ryan you said you couldn't support Trump yet he won Wisconsin!!! DRAIN THE FREAKING SWAMP!!!
Hold his feet to the fire on pushing for term limits and ending politicians leaving and working for special interests. I gave Obama a shot in 2008 he did not do anything he claimed to about transparency and ending both wars!!! 8 years of nothing he was bought an paid for. Bombed more countries than George Bush. Obama and Henry Kissinger both need to give back their Nobel Peace Prizes. It a f-boming joke. But what do you expect Venezuela elected a school bus driver that isn't going so well. We had 8 years of a community organizer. |
| JamesNorth101 | 11-10-2016 07:03 AM | Re: American election Its going to be interesting to see how much he is able to change now that he has gotten elected.
Its going to be an uphill battle for him. It would be awesome though if he could take big business out of politics. |
Re: American election My sales of Canadian-assisted citizenship are going through the roof! :thumb: |
| vogeltron | 11-10-2016 07:23 AM | Re: American election Quote:
Originally Posted by rsot
(Post 811244)
My sales of Canadian-assisted citizenship are going through the roof! :thumb: | Would like to know how that was in 2004 when Bush was re-elected. Because I remember all the celebrity Liberals saying the same thing.
My real question would be is does Canada want all these people who said they would leave the USA?
I also really do hope that the public holds their feet to the fire and makes them give and explanation if they don't.
It quite sad Tom Brady is being harassed for voting for Trump. When Jay-z, Beyonce, Lebron James and so many other public figures came out for Hillary. It goes to show the Hippocratic nature of the American System. If you are on the media's side no problem. If not you need to burn in hell. So sad people can't vote and express their opinion. It really is the hypocrisy of liberals. |
| ilcarletto | 11-10-2016 07:31 AM | Re: American election |
| vogeltron | 11-10-2016 07:39 AM | Re: American election Image aside and I agree most the Liberals in California could never handle a Canadian winter. Good luck with the move! |
Re: American election Quote:
Originally Posted by vogeltron
(Post 811247)
Would like to know how that was in 2004 when Bush was re-elected. Because I remember all the celebrity Liberals saying the same thing.
My real question would be is does Canada want all these people who said they would leave the USA?
I also really do hope that the public holds their feet to the fire and makes them give and explanation if they don't.
It quite sad Tom Brady is being harassed for voting for Trump. When Jay-z, Beyonce, Lebron James and so many other public figures came out for Hillary. It goes to show the Hippocratic nature of the American System. If you are on the media's side no problem. If not you need to burn in hell. So sad people can't vote and express their opinion. It really is the hypocrisy of liberals. | I saw some stats from back in 2004 when ppl were talking the same gibberish about going to Canada - it wasn't the large influx ppl were saying.
Canada does not want all these people - we wouldn't have a problem having ppl come in for sure but...working permits? Canadian benefits? etc - ppl ain't going to get them right away |
| vogeltron | 11-10-2016 07:50 AM | Re: American election Quote:
Originally Posted by rsot
(Post 811255)
I saw some stats from back in 2004 when ppl were talking the same gibberish about going to Canada - it wasn't the large influx ppl were saying.
Canada does not want all these people - we wouldn't have a problem having ppl come in for sure but...working permits? Canadian benefits? etc - ppl ain't going to get them right away | I know Canada they want Employers not employees. If you are job creator all welcomed by Canada. Most US Democrats are employees or even worse live off the state. I live in Bernie Land of California my pops was in the insurance industry for years, I saw pony tailed Liberals from the 60's and 70's who started businesses and made some money all of a sudden become Republican.
Unfortunately, your Prime Minister has been letting in the Syrians for whatever reason. As much threat as they cause these crazies from the US that provide no service will likely be much greater. |
| vogeltron | 11-10-2016 06:29 PM | Re: American election Quote:
Originally Posted by MM78
(Post 811292)
I agree with Vogeltron...who would want to leave this, it's paradise! | Just like Libya was the richest country in Africa before Hillary Clinton got her hands on it. Again and again US meddling in foreign affairs. Obama has dropped more bombs and droned more countries than the George Bush. Yet somehow there is nobody out protesting because they are brainwashed and well he is on "are team". Really? Flippin shows how dumbed down people are in this country. |
| user3657 | 11-11-2016 01:30 AM | Re: American election I for one welcome Trump. I just hope half his talks were not just talks....
I'm sorry, but its way to easy for anyone to come into this country and start working. Then, the wage is sent back to other countries. That is one way to improve this economy, close some damn boarders. Plenty of Americans cant find low skilled jobs because too many foreigners are taking them and not supporting our economy!
My sales have doubled this week, I had a very bad Oct, but this week they are gaining. Still not hoilday sales, but its going to get better once everyone stops drinking.=}-:thumb: |
Re: American election Quote:
Originally Posted by user3657
(Post 811401)
I'm sorry, but its way to easy for anyone to come into this country and start working. Then, the wage is sent back to other countries. | I know History is not for everyone...but when people from "other Countries" first came here....what do you think they did with their money? usually it was sent back to their Mother Country and when enough was saved...they would bring their whole family to this Country. Quote:
That is one way to improve this economy, close some damn boarders.
| Exactly what does this mean, close some borders....I didn't realize they had the "Open Door" sign on. Do people enter illegally? Yes they do but it isn't because there's an open door where they walk in through. Have you ever been to the border? ever seen the actual fences and walls already there? Quote:
Plenty of Americans cant find low skilled jobs because too many foreigners are taking them and not supporting our economy!
| Really? they should hit the areas where crops are being picked, LOT'S of work there, wait...that's right, no one want's to do that work. It's always easy to blame the illegals but guess what, they have been here through good and bad economic times, people bitch when the bad economic times hit and of course it's easy to blame the illegals. One thing you should know, when these so called foreigners work.....90% of the time, they get no tax returns, so guess where all that money goes? yeah...back to the Government.
Just a quick History lesson:
In the 1930's just after WWI and after the Stock Market Crash......the Country panicked and needed a fix, well...who better to deport than the same people the Country brought in to work....yes the "Mexicans". First they tried to ask then they forced random people.
You think this Country was only built on the blood and sweat of "Americans"? guess again. |
| vogeltron | 11-11-2016 07:01 AM | Re: American election Quote:
Originally Posted by MM78
(Post 811409)
I know History is not for everyone...but when people from "other Countries" first came here....what do you think they did with their money? usually it was sent back to their Mother Country and when enough was saved...they would bring their whole family to this Country. | Did they come here to celebrate the 4th of July or Cinco De Mayo? Which I still don't understand because it is Mexico breaking away from France? Just asking? Because my grandparents came here to be flipping Americans. I live in California I see all these Mexican cats here waving there Mexican flags telling me how great it is in Mexico. Then GO HOME!!!!! But I know they call you Coconuts because you aren't born in Mexico. If you want to come here and be an American!!!! Welcome!! Don't come to my country telling me I need to let in all your people illegally and speak your language. When you have hundreds of thousands of people probably millions from across the world waiting in line to come to America to be an American!!!!!!!!! Quote:
Originally Posted by MM78
(Post 811409)
Exactly what does this mean, close some borders....I didn't realize they had the "Open Door" sign on. Do people enter illegally? Yes they do but it isn't because there's an open door where they walk in through. Have you ever been to the border? ever seen the actual fences and walls already there? | Been to the border there are huge areas that are the wild west. People who are "Illegal" are encouraged to come here because of the laws of the US. Mexico has a wall on their Southern Border they beat the crap out of the immigrants from Guatemala, El Salvador and Honduras that come through. They don't hand them and sandwich and send them back like the US. The women often end up becoming prostitutes you ignorant racist. Quote:
Originally Posted by MM78
(Post 811409)
Really? they should hit the areas where crops are being picked, LOT'S of work there, wait...that's right, no one want's to do that work. It's always easy to blame the illegals but guess what, they have been here through good and bad economic times, people bitch when the bad economic times hit and of course it's easy to blame the illegals. One thing you should know, when these so called foreigners work.....90% of the time, they get no tax returns, so guess where all that money goes? yeah...back to the Government. | Have to disagree as a fellow Californian the Central Valley has been destroyed by the Liberals in Sacramento. Its now a wasteland that has all the water stolen from it to water Golf Courses in Los Angeles. Low skilled and low educated workers which tend to be minorities are hurt by illegal immigration. It is a crowding out effect. As many online sellers complain about Chinese epacket sellers. Its the the same thing. As to why Mexico built a wall and throws out people from Honduras, Guatemala and El Salvador. If you want cheap workers to pick crops it can come from plenty of place Africa, Caribbean, South America, parts of Asia. This whole its only Mexicans can pick fruit because they live close enough to break the laws is insane and its Racist by those that spew that nonsense. Quote:
Originally Posted by MM78
(Post 811409)
Also MM78 illegal immigration is ILLEGAL. It drives down wages and absolutely does hurt Americans especially low skilled uneducated workers in the US.
Just a quick History lesson:
In the 1930's just after WWI and after the Stock Market Crash......the Country panicked and needed a fix, well...who better to deport than the same people the Country brought in to work....yes the "Mexicans". First they tried to ask then they forced random people. | It was wrong to deport anyone who was an American Citizen. But if you are going to restrict trade you ship out those who are not members of the country. I am for all Americans!!! I even complained when Obama your boy droned a US Citizen in the Middle East. Every AMERICAN deserves due process!!! Quote:
Originally Posted by MM78
(Post 811409)
You think this Country was only built on the blood and sweat of "Americans"? guess again. | It was built on American lives going back to 1776. You can go through the graveyard in Arlington Cemitary. |
Re: American election USA does meddle a lot in other countries' affairs without dealing with its own problems...sad to say, really. |
| ilcarletto | 11-11-2016 08:40 AM | Re: American election Reading what is going on in here it seems like being in Italy twenty-something years ago... and is not good at all. http://img1.imagilive.com/1116/Trumpusconi.jpg
P.S.: you have your Berlusconi in disguise (but he might be more dangerous) |
Re: American election Quote:
Originally Posted by vogeltron
(Post 811428)
Did they come here to celebrate the 4th of July or Cinco De Mayo? Which I still don't understand because it is Mexico breaking away from France? Just asking? Because my grandparents came here to be flipping Americans. | Funny, last I checked California did at one point belong to Mexico....and guess what, people don't forget how it was taken from Mexico...and I'll go a step further, California belonged to the Natives which was taken by the Mexicans. Quote:
I live in California I see all these Mexican cats here waving there Mexican flags telling me how great it is in Mexico. Then GO HOME!!!!! But I know they call you Coconuts because you aren't born in Mexico.
| Most people I see are proud of their heritage, never seen anyone saying how great Mexico is....Call me coconuts? wtf are talking about. Quote:
If you want to come here and be an American!!!! Welcome!! Don't come to my country telling me I need to let in all your people illegally and speak your language.
| So your saying these same illegals forced you to speak their language? Quote:
When you have hundreds of thousands of people probably millions from across the world waiting in line to come to America to be an American!!!!!!!!!
| Maybe even Billions....do you know what type of process is needed for this? Quote:
Been to the border there are huge areas that are the wild west. People who are "Illegal" are encouraged to come here because of the laws of the US.
| Encouraged by who? Quote:
Mexico has a wall on their Southern Border they beat the crap out of the immigrants from Guatemala, El Salvador and Honduras that come through. They don't hand them and sandwich and send them back like the US. The women often end up becoming prostitutes you ignorant racist.
| A sandwich? lol....when is the last time you crossed the border? People end up dead all the time at the border and a lot of those people have bullet holes...and some are also Salvadorians, and from other Countries. I do like the fact that I'm the racist, that's a good one. Quote:
Low skilled and low educated workers which tend to be minorities are hurt by illegal immigration.
| Most minorities are illegal, unless your out there checking their status
It is a crowding out effect. As many online sellers complain about Chinese epacket sellers. Its the the same thing. As to why Mexico built a wall and throws out people from Honduras, Guatemala and El Salvador. Quote:
If you want cheap workers to pick crops it can come from plenty of place Africa, Caribbean, South America, parts of Asia.
| So your saying that you prefer the crops come from other Countries instead of being grown locally. Quote:
This whole its only Mexicans can pick fruit because they live close enough to break the laws is insane and its Racist by those that spew that nonsense.
| That's funny because for a ****load of years...the US granted and diverted them to work in the fields... Quote:
It was built on American lives going back to 1776. You can go through the graveyard in Arlington Cemitary.
| Right along with 10,000+ Mexicans.... |
| phaz0rz | 11-11-2016 02:12 PM | Re: American election Quote:
Most minorities are illegal, unless your out there checking their status
| Are you serious? You must live in a predominately white area?? In case you've forgot, "African-Americans" are still considered minorities and they certainly aren't illegal immigrants.
I'm not here to join in on this argument but vogeltron raised several valid points, and you wasted all that time doing the big mega post multi quote thing just to dodge the points he raised. Quote:
Most people I see are proud of their heritage, never seen anyone saying how great Mexico is....Call me coconuts? wtf are talking about.
| I LOL'ed at that part also. In our part of the country (the southeast) residents of the Mexican (or "Hispanic") part of town fly a Mexican flag in their yard rather than a USA flag. There's nothing wrong with taking pride in your heritage but it's disrespectful to fly another country's flag in our country. Quote:
Maybe even Billions....do you know what type of process is needed for this?
| And what were you getting at with this question? USA has been letting in legal immigrants since the country was founded. The "process" you're referring to is known as the United States Citizenship and Immigration Services Department. They are the ones who hand out work visas. Did you not read the 2nd part of his sentence? He said
"encouraged to come here because of the laws of the US." Granted, saying "by the laws" would have been more grammatically correct but his point was still clear. Quote:
So your saying that you prefer the crops come from other Countries instead of being grown locally.
| Again you completely missed the point. USA could let in LEGAL workers from the countries vogeltron listed. He didn't say anything about importing crops from other countries. Quote:
So your saying these same illegals forced you to speak their language?
| They don't "force" anything, but rather make no effort to assimilate into our culture like a legal immigrant who's striving to become an American citizen would do.
Ok, that may have been a little argumentative. That was such a childish post breakdown though. :( |
| easy.bake.oven | 11-11-2016 11:53 PM | Re: American election |
| JamesNorth101 | 11-12-2016 07:32 AM | Re: American election I personally don't think that there is anything wrong with celebrating your own cultural heritage. A lot of Americans of Irish and Italian decent do it so what is wrong with Americans of Mexican decent doing it? It does seem like that is a bit of a double standard to me sometimes.
One thing that really does bug me though is when people do immigrate (legally or illegally) from one country to another (be it Mexico to USA or any other country to another country) and they make 0 effort to assimilate and refuse to speak the local language. When ever I go on holiday I always try to make an effort to follow the country that I am travelling to customs and traditions as best as I can and also try to learn a bit off the local language and I only ever go away for a few weeks. It just amazes me when you get people that have moved from 1 country to another and 10 years later they still speak none of the language of the country that they have moved it. This 100% also applies to British people moving to say France or Spain so its not just about people moving to the USA or the UK but also people moving from the USA/UK to other parts of the world. |
| user3657 | 11-12-2016 08:36 AM | Re: American election Quote:
Originally Posted by JamesNorth101
(Post 811601)
I personally don't think that there is anything wrong with celebrating your own cultural heritage. A lot of Americans of Irish and Italian decent do it so what is wrong with Americans of Mexican decent doing it? It does seem like that is a bit of a double standard to me sometimes.
One thing that really does bug me though is when people do immigrate (legally or illegally) from one country to another (be it Mexico to USA or any other country to another country) and they make 0 effort to assimilate and refuse to speak the local language. When ever I go on holiday I always try to make an effort to follow the country that I am travelling to customs and traditions as best as I can and also try to learn a bit off the local language and I only ever go away for a few weeks. It just amazes me when you get people that have moved from 1 country to another and 10 years later they still speak none of the language of the country that they have moved it. This 100% also applies to British people moving to say France or Spain so its not just about people moving to the USA or the UK but also people moving from the USA/UK to other parts of the world. | Amen! thank you for doing your part and learning their language.
It makes me sick when immigrants have conversations right in front of people in their home language.
Just this past year, Home depot(US), started playing their commercials instore FIRST in Spanish, English.
To the poster who responded to my post about jobs in farms and immigrants sending money back home...Really? My dad just so happens to be a farmer, and I know first hand of many forgerigers who come down for 4 months every year during peak season to send money back home. They have been doing this for years, and if you ask them, they have no desire to move here! Farmers use other farmers to get employees, because Americans could not live or support a family in the US with farming wages.
Mean while, at my work, I can think of FIVE full time employees who are immirgrants(US citiz,prob all within 15-20years)that are earning full time wages/healthcare. That is FIVE americans we could be supporting.
1)lost his home and had finance problems because he had lost his SECOND full time job and could no longer support his 8 KIDS. He had no choice but to pack up and move to a lower cost of living area.
2)was laid off this after 25 years, can not find a full time job......says, retail low skill jobs wont even hire him.
Ask any college student, if its easy to get summer work. They are lucky to get a call back! When I wanted a job, you handed in 2 or 3 apps, and you had a job in a week!
Bring on the wall!!!!!!=}:hail:
I am no way judging immigrants, they are people just like anyone else. But I do feel right now we need to stop letting everyone and their mothers into our country until we can make some improvments. |
| jayne dunn | 11-12-2016 11:34 AM | Re: American election Sorry if it's against someone just want to say I personally support Trump |
| JamesNorth101 | 11-12-2016 02:37 PM | Re: American election Quote:
Originally Posted by jayne dunn
(Post 811622)
Sorry if it's against someone just want to say I personally support Trump | Nothing wrong with that :) A lot of people do |
| beatingebay | 11-15-2016 02:44 PM | Re: American election So sick of hearing OBAMA fault....8 years and its been bad. Well that is a load of crap. It's a lot better than everybody losing everything they owned or had when Bush the bafoon was in. I had a major ebay account rolling in cash daily!!!!! Bush came along, and it went down hill in a blink of an eye. Had to go back to work, lost my ebay account in a day. My Real one I might add. Nobody bought a thing, they were just trying to feed their kids. Since Obama has been in, my online Biz has been very steady, gotten raises on limits, people buying pretty regularly on there and not a problem. If you think Trump is the messiah, think again. He was a democrat FOREVER! He is back peddling already...the mexican wall is now a fence, keeping some of Obama care. He said what the american people wanted to hear, and we bought it hook line and sinker. As soon as he elected my sales are ZERO!!!!! |
| beatingebay | 11-15-2016 02:53 PM | Re: American election Further more I live in So cal. we got lots and lots of farm jobs, come get them. They pay $$ and you can pick crops all day in the 100++ degree weather in the sun and do back breaking work. They even said in southern states they tried to hire white guys, showed up late, left early, or quit. The work was too hard. They had poster saying; Take my job please....come get my job....so stop balling. We gonna end up paying $25 for a watermelon. Who pick these crops....???? |
| vogeltron | 11-16-2016 03:02 AM | Re: American election Quote:
Originally Posted by beatingebay
(Post 812165)
So sick of hearing OBAMA fault....8 years and its been bad. Well that is a load of crap. It's a lot better than everybody losing everything they owned or had when Bush the bafoon was in. | Yes because having a record number of people living with their parents into their late 20's is great. Home Ownership at 60 year lows, labor force Participation at rates unseen since women began entering the workforce in the 1970's. Record numbers on food stamps and other government assistance programs. THE LAST 8 YEARS HAVE BEEN AWESOME!!! |
| martyjump | 11-16-2016 10:51 PM | Re: American election Quote:
Originally Posted by vogeltron
(Post 812252)
Yes because having a record number of people living with their parents into their late 20's is great. Home Ownership at 60 year lows, labor force Participation at rates unseen since women began entering the workforce in the 1970's. Record numbers on food stamps and other government assistance programs. THE LAST 8 YEARS HAVE BEEN AWESOME!!! | You forgot doubling the national debt. Your sales have been great during the Obama years but terrible during the Bush years? For me, it was kind of opposite. I haven't done terrible by any means during the Obama years, but eBay was really booming back when Bush was in office. I don't think politics had anything to do with that though. Just think eBay was more popular then or maybe there was less competition. It just seems like eBay was literally BOOMING with sales back then. |
| vogeltron | 11-16-2016 10:58 PM | Re: American election Quote:
Originally Posted by martyjump
(Post 812448)
Your sales have been great during the Obama years but terrible during the Bush years? For me, it was kind of opposite. I haven't done terrible by any means during the Obama years, but eBay was really booming back when Bush was in office. I don't think politics had anything to do with that though. Just think eBay was more popular then or maybe there was less competition. It just seems like eBay was literally BOOMING with sales back then. | Yea, from about 03-07 it was like printing money on eBay. The past 4-5 years personally is when I have seen things become much more difficult. I don't think it was less competition but more that eBay was a dominant eCommerce site back then. Even with my Amazon sales it still doesn't compare to the heyday of eBay.
Still not sure how one could correlate any presidency to losing their eBay account. Those would be mutually exclusive events. |
| user3657 | 11-17-2016 03:56 AM | Re: American election Quote:
Originally Posted by vogeltron
(Post 812449)
Yea, from about 03-07 it was like printing money on eBay. The past 4-5 years personally is when I have seen things become much more difficult. I don't think it was less competition but more that eBay was a dominant eCommerce site back then. Even with my Amazon sales it still doesn't compare to the heyday of eBay.
Still not sure how one could correlate any presidency to losing their eBay account. Those would be mutually exclusive events. | ecommerce will never be the same. Everyone and their mother is hooked up with a shopping chart now. Google has made it so easy to find the best price, google what you want and you will find who has the lowest price, it takes less then 2 seconds.
10 years ago, you had xxx ppl shopping on x sites. Now, you have the same amount of ppl but now you have 10000x more sites.
P.S, you lost your ebay account due to YOU and your business methods. Not because of some president. |
| JamesNorth101 | 11-17-2016 06:38 AM | Re: American election The massive influx of Chinese sellers selling for $0.05 profit per item will be the largest reason a lot of people have in the past few years felts selling on eBay is less and less profitable (in my opinion)
Nothing to do with politics |
| phaz0rz | 11-17-2016 08:15 AM | Re: American election Quote:
Originally Posted by user3657
(Post 812495)
10 years ago, you had xxx ppl shopping on x sites. Now, you have the same amount of ppl but now you have 10000x more sites. | I agree with most of what you said, but that bit doesn't make sense to me. There are hundreds of times more online shoppers now. In 2006 most people were still afraid to put their credit card details online. :nerd: |
| faded | 11-18-2016 11:59 AM | Re: American election sell trump gear :) | | All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:22 AM. | |
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