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coconut 12-14-2016 04:59 AM

'There is no such thing as a fresh IP' Dedicated VPNs
 
I have multiple stealth accounts and I have made the mistake of using a non-dedicated vpn with previous accounts and so I am looking into different cpn providers to compare services.

24vc is the obvious choice but Pure VPN also offer dedicated IPs and they have a huge sale on at the moment (they are about 5 times cheaper).

I have heard people say on the forum that they have 'burned out' IP addresses and they don't offer a 'Guaranteed Fresh IP' service like 24VC so I spoke to customer support who told me the following:

'Nobody will give you a fresh IP, we offer clean IPs which are not black listed.
You will be able to get access to eBay with our dedicated IP, and it does not matter whichever vpn you use, they will not give you a new and fresh IP. If they say so, they are lying to you.
There is no such thing as fresh IP, we have our IPs used before but they are white listed and clean IPs.:)'


What are your thoughts on this?

jayne dunn 12-14-2016 05:06 AM

Re: 'There is no such thing as a fresh IP' Dedicated VPNs
 
Maybe you could use VPS?

Ebayorbust 12-14-2016 05:10 AM

Re: 'There is no such thing as a fresh IP' Dedicated VPNs
 
Quote:

What are your thoughts on this?
Sounds like Pure VPN are telling you what you want to hear to make a sale.

Whilst I appreciate it is indeed difficult to prove if an IP is fresh or not, 24vc do have an excellent reputation and I personally would take a long standing exec member such as 123 at their word.

GreenBean 12-14-2016 05:19 AM

Re: 'There is no such thing as a fresh IP' Dedicated VPNs
 
If you are based in the U.K., why did you ever go the way of VPNs?

Did you ever consider other equitable options?

:juggle:

coconut 12-14-2016 05:25 AM

Re: 'There is no such thing as a fresh IP' Dedicated VPNs
 
Other equitable options? Please elaborate :D

Ebayorbust 12-14-2016 05:26 AM

Re: 'There is no such thing as a fresh IP' Dedicated VPNs
 
Dynamic home broadband, mobile broadband dongles, phone tethering.

coconut 12-14-2016 05:31 AM

Re: 'There is no such thing as a fresh IP' Dedicated VPNs
 
Thanks! I use my phone for one acc already. The dynamic home broadband I haven't looked at - I am researching it at the moment, I assume I go to my router config and there will be an option to enable it in there.

123 12-14-2016 05:35 AM

Re: 'There is no such thing as a fresh IP' Dedicated VPNs
 
PureVPN simply does not know anything about the ebay stealth community and how it works etc, their sales team just wants to close the sale as that's what their paid to do

When they say 'our ips are whitelisted' they just mean its not blacklisted as a spam ip but that does not really make a difference for ebay or amazon stealth accounts

The problem with their ips, is as soon as one member cancels the dedicated ip its reissued to another member within a few minutes (when a new order is placed). And a site as big as that, whatever dedicated ip they give you, has likely already been issued to 100s of members in the past (likely already being banned/suspended on ebay, paypal, amazon several dozens of times) that is the problem with their ips

and also the reason why they can sell them dirt cheap / cause they can just reissue the same ips an infinite amount of times

austyn12x 12-31-2016 12:54 AM

Re: 'There is no such thing as a fresh IP' Dedicated VPNs
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 123 (Post 817878)
PureVPN simply does not know anything about the ebay stealth community and how it works etc, their sales team just wants to close the sale as that's what their paid to do

When they say 'our ips are whitelisted' they just mean its not blacklisted as a spam ip but that does not really make a difference for ebay or amazon stealth accounts

The problem with their ips, is as soon as one member cancels the dedicated ip its reissued to another member within a few minutes (when a new order is placed). And a site as big as that, whatever dedicated ip they give you, has likely already been issued to 100s of members in the past (likely already being banned/suspended on ebay, paypal, amazon several dozens of times) that is the problem with their ips

and also the reason why they can sell them dirt cheap / cause they can just reissue the same ips an infinite amount of times

they dont ban just off the ip although. Your right tho they wont last long ebay will find a way to ban you . Ive noticed every account i made on a used ip got flagged faster and easier. I got banned because of two chargebacks when i had over 20 sales on time. I was labeled as a "high risk seller" .On a ip i know was never used i do not have those issues.

another time i got flagged for a low risk item and labeled as a high risk seller too. IT was not even a electronic .

yup1983 12-31-2016 02:11 PM

Re: 'There is no such thing as a fresh IP' Dedicated VPNs
 
So what site sells fresh IP?

pollinator 01-08-2017 11:56 AM

Re: 'There is no such thing as a fresh IP' Dedicated VPNs
 
I would agree with what the reps told you, it makes sense. Also I have never saw anybody reported they had issues on doing stealth with PureVPN. But I did see somebody reported they got banned using 24vc on another forum.

sarathf 04-19-2017 01:24 AM

Re: 'There is no such thing as a fresh IP' Dedicated VPNs
 
I am a programmer and i don't use PP for stealth. But i use it in sri lanka )i am dual citizen.

I used 24VPN and PureVPN both works fine my end.

Even that i don't belive fresh IP thing. Many 24VPN users use it for Paypal needs...guess what ? PP may already know it.

I am also worrying about this matter..

rsot 04-19-2017 01:42 AM

Re: 'There is no such thing as a fresh IP' Dedicated VPNs
 
No issues with PureVPN sarathf? Good for you

Rogerw 12-22-2017 03:46 PM

Re: 'There is no such thing as a fresh IP' Dedicated VPNs
 
BEWARE! I had a major issue with 24VC in the summer of 2017. I purchased from them a 30 day fresh ip, and they provided me a old ULTRA SLOW telephone line connection, that I couldn't even use.

Beware because they DO NOT always give you what you expect. I used them for like 2 days and it was SO AWFUL, I stopped using them.

Then of course, after my 30 days they wanted to renew and I told them of their totally aweful speed, and they said you should have contacted us and we would have "Opened you up" for speed. Then they said I'll give you 7 free days...

My god, they rip you off, give you a old fashion telephone line connection, and they could see I never used them after 2 days, and they said they'll give me 7 free days? Screw that.

Just being honest guys.... Beware what you expect, because I got screwed by them....

ebaydimuthu 12-31-2017 01:47 AM

Re: 'There is no such thing as a fresh IP' Dedicated VPNs
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sarathf (Post 842833)
I am a programmer and i don't use PP for stealth. But i use it in sri lanka )i am dual citizen.

I used 24VPN and PureVPN both works fine my end.

Even that i don't belive fresh IP thing. Many 24VPN users use it for Paypal needs...guess what ? PP may already know it.

I am also worrying about this matter..

still are you using PureVPN for USA PayPal ?

james13v 01-01-2018 03:09 PM

Re: 'There is no such thing as a fresh IP' Dedicated VPNs
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by austyn12x (Post 821044)
they dont ban just off the ip although. Your right tho they wont last long ebay will find a way to ban you . Ive noticed every account i made on a used ip got flagged faster and easier. I got banned because of two chargebacks when i had over 20 sales on time. I was labeled as a "high risk seller" .On a ip i know was never used i do not have those issues.

another time i got flagged for a low risk item and labeled as a high risk seller too. IT was not even a electronic .

10% of your sales had a chargeback? you ARE a high risk seller and got banned accordingly.


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