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I'm having trouble withdrawing funds from my Paypal accounts and I keep seeing posts on here saying that you need a strong ip. What is considered a strong ip? I use Verizon hotspot.
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Default Re: What is considered a "strong ip"?

That should be fine

What is the issue you are having with withdrawing?
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Default Re: What is considered a "strong ip"?

OMG, I might have a WEAK IP!!!

I'm going to run it right over to the gym and make it work out and beef that sucker up!

Sometimes I wonder where these things come from...

It's unlikely your IP is related to your withdrawl issue.
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That should be fine

What is the issue you are having with withdrawing?
PayPal won't let me purchase anything.
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Default Re: What is considered a "strong ip"?

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PayPal won't let me purchase anything.
So you can't withdraw and you can't purchase either?
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So you can't withdraw and you can't purchase either?
I can't withdraw to a vba.. & I can't open anymore bank accounts due to my name being in Chex systems.
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Default Re: What is considered a "strong ip"?

How old is the account? How many month and how many transactions yet? I don't think it's got anything to do with your IP.
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I'm pretty sure PayPal ranks IP ranges by geo/provider/type. For example, it's obvious they would score known proxy/VPN ranges much "lower" than one using a provider pool from consumer/commercial broadband. It would be preferable to use an IP from a provider that "most normal" people use; i.e. Comcast, Cox, Charter, Verizon, ATT, etc.

You can be pretty darn sure PayPal is not stupid and knows the IP ranges of VPN's and other "problem ranges" associated with abuse.
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Default Re: What is considered a "strong ip"?

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I'm pretty sure PayPal ranks IP ranges by geo/provider/type. For example, it's obvious they would score known proxy/VPN ranges much "lower" than one using a provider pool from consumer/commercial broadband. It would be preferable to use an IP from a provider that "most normal" people use; i.e. Comcast, Cox, Charter, Verizon, ATT, etc.

You can be pretty darn sure PayPal is not stupid and knows the IP ranges of VPN's and other "problem ranges" associated with abuse.
I'd really love to hear some technical backgrounds on that. Would you mind to elaborate what you just wrote or can you at least quote a google search or other research you probably did on this?

Or at least explain to me why the vast majority in this forum uses their stealth paypals with a VPN successfully. I myself operate 5 paypals using IP's even from different VPN providers and don't have a problem.

Which brings me to the question I asked: how old is the account and how many transactions have been on the account. If the account is less than 2 month old and has quite a few transactions on it I would be pretty darn sure, that the reason for your problem is that paypal don't trust you yet. Give it a bit more time and it'll work. Been there too.
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Default Re: What is considered a "strong ip"?

The answers from the OP are all over the place... first can't withdraw, then can't withdraw to a VBA, then never answered if they could purchase.

The problem is too vague to resolve given the incomplete info provided and the way the answers are being dribbled out.

It probably has nothing to do with the IP, however, that's easy enough to test, borrow a friend or family members internet connection and see if the problem goes away.

It's far more likely your PP is messed up somehow.

Or, you could just CALL them and ask what's going on...

As far as IP is concerned, certainly public IP's like libraries and McD's are going to draw more attention, but in general most other IP's are going to be treated all the same, with dynamic IP setting and the fact IP's are leased to service providers in blocks and recycled periodically, IP address doesn't mean that much any more.

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Default Re: What is considered a "strong ip"?

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I can't withdraw to a vba.. & I can't open anymore bank accounts due to my name being in Chex systems.
Its not possible to withdraw to a VBA

They are just there to verify a PayPal account
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Default Re: What is considered a "strong ip"?

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I'm pretty sure PayPal ranks IP ranges by geo/provider/type. For example, it's obvious they would score known proxy/VPN ranges much "lower" than one using a provider pool from consumer/commercial broadband. It would be preferable to use an IP from a provider that "most normal" people use; i.e. Comcast, Cox, Charter, Verizon, ATT, etc.

You can be pretty darn sure PayPal is not stupid and knows the IP ranges of VPN's and other "problem ranges" associated with abuse.
Interesting example.

I can see that being the case.

Proxies and abused IPs are no good for sure..
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Default Re: What is considered a "strong ip"?

Your IP is fine. I think if anything is weak, it is the account. You cannot ever withdraw to a VBA. It is not possible. If you are buying from an account that is newer also then that can be an issue too. Can you see if the account you are buying from is new or older? I have had this issue before myself.
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Default Re: What is considered a "strong ip"?

Correct if I'm wrong but aren't there bank accounts available outside the CHEX system for people who have issues?
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Default Re: What is considered a "strong ip"?

Yes, prepaid accounts for one have no credit requirements because you can't spend more than you have put in, so credit is irrelevant.
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Default Re: What is considered a "strong ip"?

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I'm pretty sure PayPal ranks IP ranges by geo/provider/type. For example, it's obvious they would score known proxy/VPN ranges much "lower" than one using a provider pool from consumer/commercial broadband. It would be preferable to use an IP from a provider that "most normal" people use; i.e. Comcast, Cox, Charter, Verizon, ATT, etc.

You can be pretty darn sure PayPal is not stupid and knows the IP ranges of VPN's and other "problem ranges" associated with abuse.
Can you please clarify? I use Verizon tethering; do you think Verizon ips are associated with abuse?
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Can you please clarify? I use Verizon tethering; do you think Verizon ips are associated with abuse?
I would doubt you will have any problems using Verizon's Mobile Broadband nertwork for the simple fact Verizon is such a major ISP within the US. They are used by a large number of people accessing both EB/PP on a daily basis.

Just be be clear, the "abused" or problem IP ranges I'm referring to will belong to such things as known proxies, VPN companies that see a higher than average amount of "malicious traffic" etc, or IP ranges that are typically NOT used by customers for direct access to the internet (i.e. beloging to a datacenter/web hosting/colocation facility)

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