IP linking - your experience?

[kirkland]

Many forum members talk about how each stealth account needs a different IP, but is this really necessary? In my past year of stealth, I’ve shared IPs across tons of accounts, and only once were all my accounts IP linked. These accounts were all selling the same items, and funny enough, one of my accounts was spared because it had transitioned into a different category (despite having sold the same items as the other accounts very recently).


Besides this incident, the other MANY accounts I had never got IP linked, despite them too selling the SAME items on the SAME IP.

I recently purchased a bunch of VPNs from 24vc, and am looking at selling in some new categories. What I am thinking of is to share one IP across 2 accounts, as long as the accounts sell in different categories and have different user details/account management practices. E.g., 2 accounts share xx.yy.z.z as IP, but different details, cookies, and items sold (e.g. electronics on one, pets on the other).

What is everyone's personal experience with this?

[MM78]

If you are not worried about IP linking....this thread is really pointless really. What purpose would it serve for us to tell you some of us may have been linked via IP? Just a lot of back and forth which will lead to nowhere. If you are happy with your setup then keep it going.

[kirkland]

Mostly I'm wondering what factors played a role in the restriction, or whether their claim was that IP alone was enough to trigger the restriction. More to the point, I'm wondering whether the same items were sold on the IP linked accounts.

[Yasav]

About 1.5 years ago, I had my primary legit account fall below standard and my selling limits were extremely low. I then needed money badly and decided to sell my macbook. So I created a new account with same info; got new limits and sold my item successfully. To this day, my accounts haven't been officially linked..Both are now power-sellers.

[dachilla]

Originally Posted by kirkland

Many forum members talk about how each stealth account needs a different IP, but is this really necessary? In my past year of stealth, I’ve shared IPs across tons of accounts, and only once were all my accounts IP linked. These accounts were all selling the same items, and funny enough, one of my accounts was spared because it had transitioned into a different category (despite having sold the same items as the other accounts very recently).


Besides this incident, the other MANY accounts I had never got IP linked, despite them too selling the SAME items on the SAME IP.

I recently purchased a bunch of VPNs from 24vc, and am looking at selling in some new categories. What I am thinking of is to share one IP across 2 accounts, as long as the accounts sell in different categories and have different user details/account management practices. E.g., 2 accounts share xx.yy.z.z as IP, but different details, cookies, and items sold (e.g. electronics on one, pets on the other).

What is everyone's personal experience with this?

Did any oft these accounts get suspended yet?

[kirkland]

Originally Posted by dachilla

Did any oft these accounts get suspended yet?

Yes, but I'm fairly certain IP was not one of the reasons. Most of these accounts fell during the holidays where I got way too ahead of myself, but they all fell at different times (whereas my IP linked accounts all fell within an hour or so). However, I do still have other accounts from this time period that are still using that dingy old IP that are still alive and very well today.

[SaiJin]

well, if you want to play around with your accounts and you don't mind them getting nuked one day, then feel free to do what you want.

Most of us I think would want more stability and peace of mind that we have done all the right things to stay afloat.

[nickopedia]

The wider problem is some people don't read the stealth guide carefully or follow directions to the T.

It's kind of like a recipe. Some cooks will improvise, experiment, throw in some extra ingredient, or change. At the end of the day it's NOT as intended.

[rsot]

Avoid IP overlapping OP

[dachilla]

Here is my experience from 2 weeks ago.

Got a Dedicated IP from purevpn (they are known to reuse their IPs). Started the account and was suspended about 1 day later because they had linked me to an account of some random dude who was suspended before and sold super mario stuff. This linkage was 100% because of the IP and nothing else.

[13obby]

I use IPBurger along with Viscosity as the client and never had any issues which are ip related.

[kirkland]

Originally Posted by dachilla

Here is my experience from 2 weeks ago.

Got a Dedicated IP from purevpn (they are known to reuse their IPs). Started the account and was suspended about 1 day later because they had linked me to an account of some random dude who was suspended before and sold super mario stuff. This linkage was 100% because of the IP and nothing else.

Bummer... wonder if it would've made a difference if you were sharing an IP with the other guy and his account was clean.

(to clarify my OP, I'm referring to running a Fresh IP between two accounts)

Thank you for sharing your story.

[ebaystealth1974]

Originally Posted by dachilla

because they had linked me to an account of some random dude who was suspended before and sold super mario stuff.

They will tell you all this information?

[dachilla]

Yes, they will tell you the name of the account you were linked to. Then I checked out his feedback and figured out what he sold.

[ebaystealth1974]

Gotcha.......

[SaiJin]

Kirkland, you should just try it.... I know you'll get nuked soon or later, but sometimes it's best for you to experience this yourself since you seem to be determined to do what you want to do.

Either way, I'm sure you know how to operate better and we're here always

[kirkland]

Originally Posted by SaiJin

Kirkland, you should just try it.... I know you'll get nuked soon or later, but sometimes it's best for you to experience this yourself since you seem to be determined to do what you want to do.

Either way, I'm sure you know how to operate better and we're here always

I don't know why so many posters are quick to assume that I'm so hardheaded and "will do whatever I want no matter what". The point of this thread was really to ask for people's firsthand experiences - I do know what the best practices are otherwise. SaiJin, may I ask, have your own accounts ever fallen due to IP linking?

[dallis]

Less to do with you than all the other 'genius' posters, I think.

IP linking can get you burned, but there are other factors involved. IP's are all in a pool and most have been used before, so there's really no such thing as a 'Fresh IP'.

But IP in conjunction with other elemental data points can definitely link you.

I know they've linked accounts of mine based on 'similarities in the pattern of account usage', so go figure.

They collect an immense amount of data points every time you log on. IP will factor in there somewhere, and who knows exactly where the bot's thresholds are, but is definitely a factor.

Think it through: (made up details, of course) lets say the IP is the same, and in the same geographic area, and the computer is a Dell model X13, and it uses a Comcast high speed network servicing around 300K users, an Arris surfboard 5450LDS wifi router with a specific privacy protocol and latency, a 2122XRS wifi modem set to a certain baud speed, a November 2017 version of a specific malware protection, a particular HTML5 protocol, + W10 home version, not yet updated for two update cycles.

The number of people with that specific combination of details and the same IP is probably pretty low.

Add a few other details and among those 300K users bingo! You're busted. IP did you in.

Across the entire state or nation, though, without the same IP, the pool of users with these details may be as many as 50-100K.

Harder to find.

[Urinbits]

Originally Posted by ebaystealth1974

They will tell you all this information?

I usually ask them on livechat why an account was suspended. Some agents offer no info but others have told me the usernames of other accounts I've been linked to or if my paypal has been linked to another banned paypal and once I was even told that the IP I was using was linked to several banned members. You will get the info off some but not others I find. Useful to know!

[dallis]

No livechat in the US.

[Urinbits]

Originally Posted by dallis

No livechat in the US.

Can you not just login on the .co.uk site and livechat that way?

[bluegrass1]

Just depends on the linking and the offense that got your first account suspended .. I have linked ips to a couple accounts that lasted years .. but u really piss them off and i lost 4 accounts all in the same few mins .. they were burner accounts so nothing lost but yea if you want solid accounts dont over lap ips