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Lucynda 02-27-2019 01:48 PM

Ayden update now asking for a photo ID.
 
They couldn't verify the info about me being the primary business owner because it's stealth info and are now asking for a photo ID. I plan to upload photos of a ⊗⊗⊗⊗ one. what are thoughts on this?

Lucynda 02-27-2019 02:00 PM

Re: Ayden update now asking for a photo ID.
 
I wonder if I could use mine with the last 4 of the EIN

phaz0rz 02-27-2019 02:05 PM

Re: Ayden update now asking for a photo ID.
 
I think this is where it's going to start getting messy.

yankee 02-27-2019 02:06 PM

Re: Ayden update now asking for a photo ID.
 
Nobody knows for sure yet. The good new sis that most of us have not been banned from Ayden....yet.

Leader2dark 02-27-2019 02:06 PM

Re: Ayden update now asking for a photo ID.
 
This Ayden process is starting to sound like a nightmare for stealth. Good luck with a doctored ID, I am sure they are checking everything out. Also pretty sure this kind of stuff can get you in serious trouble.

yankee 02-27-2019 02:10 PM

Re: Ayden update now asking for a photo ID.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Leader2dark (Post 981886)
This Ayden process is starting to sound like a nightmare for stealth. Good luck with a doctored ID, I am sure they are checking everything out. Also pretty sure this kind of stuff can get you in serious trouble.

This is stealth norm for Amazon the past couple years. It is the new norm.

Lucynda 02-27-2019 02:11 PM

Re: Ayden update now asking for a photo ID.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by yankee (Post 981891)
This is stealth norm for Amazon the past couple years. It is the new norm.

That's what i was thinking.

phaz0rz 02-27-2019 02:11 PM

Re: Ayden update now asking for a photo ID.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by yankee (Post 981885)
The good news is that most of us have not been banned from Ayden....yet.

Going off that point.. can you remind us why you didn't use your real info for this application Lucynda?

Lucynda 02-27-2019 02:28 PM

Re: Ayden update now asking for a photo ID.
 
I was running a nice legit business for 4 or 5 years and easily supporting a family of 5. I was in my busiest time of year and didn't see the email telling us that anytime anyone opened a case against us it would now count. before it only counted if the case was closed with no resolution. I was a little bit behind and got emails from customers asking why their order was late, but because of the way eBay had it set up a case was being opened every time someone sent me an email about their order and they closed my account. They were eventually sued over that set up in a class action lawsuit and returned things back to normal but it was too late for me.

yankee 02-27-2019 02:30 PM

Re: Ayden update now asking for a photo ID.
 
He means, why not start fresh with Ayden and heck, even ebay with your real name, information etc.....
You have not been banned by Ayden. They have no reason not to do business with you.

Lucynda 02-27-2019 02:40 PM

Re: Ayden update now asking for a photo ID.
 
I was really hoping to find out if we can make stealth work on Ayden. I think our biggest issue is going to be since they check Id's is if they are going to try and verify them with the public record. With Amazon stealth, they ask for a photo ID and a utility bill. On Etsy they are using Mexican address and Ip addresses to get around the need for a social security number so I know there is a way.

HurricaneHuntr 02-27-2019 03:10 PM

Re: Ayden update now asking for a photo ID.
 
Been telling everyone when ebay does away with paypal. it's going to be a nightmare, and then if you don't have a legit EIN on each account, your account is going to be dead at 19.9k

Speaking from experience, i'd be done on some accounts after 3 months.

phaz0rz 02-27-2019 03:12 PM

Re: Ayden update now asking for a photo ID.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Moscutter (Post 981904)
Been telling everyone when ebay does away with paypal. it's going to be a nightmare, and then if you don't have a legit EIN on each account, your account is going to be dead at 19.9k

Speaking from experience, i'd be done on some accounts after 3 months.

It would be dead at $0 if you didn't have a tax ID to provide during the application.

HurricaneHuntr 02-27-2019 03:12 PM

Re: Ayden update now asking for a photo ID.
 
Enjoy dropping 40 llc's on your accountants desk. That's $125 a quarter per LLC for your accountant to take care of it and make estimated tax payments. Imagine that 5k a quarter in accounting fee's.

HurricaneHuntr 02-27-2019 03:14 PM

Re: Ayden update now asking for a photo ID.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by phaz0rz (Post 981908)
lol, my guy charges $150 for 4 LLC's and I file annually. That's a bit extreme.

Obviously, i was talking about 1 llc, and just multiplying them, i am sure you can get a discount

phaz0rz 02-27-2019 03:14 PM

Re: Ayden update now asking for a photo ID.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Moscutter (Post 981909)
Obviously, i was talking about 1 llc, and just multiplying them, i am sure you can get a discount

I got the impression you were talking about 40 LLC's and filing quarterly for all of them.

It wasn't obvious at all that you were talking about 1 when you said 40.

HurricaneHuntr 02-27-2019 03:15 PM

Re: Ayden update now asking for a photo ID.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by phaz0rz (Post 981908)
lol, my guy charges $150 for 4 LLC's and I file annually. That's a bit extreme.

I've never did the application, so i am not sure what they ask for. Are they asking for business EIN and your SSN?

yankee 02-27-2019 03:16 PM

Re: Ayden update now asking for a photo ID.
 
That is a really cheap accountant Phaz. I can only wonder if he also has cheap advice and costing you a heck of a lot more money in the long run. Cheap service is the most expensive service oftentimes. I hope that is not the case for you.

phaz0rz 02-27-2019 03:16 PM

Re: Ayden update now asking for a photo ID.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Moscutter (Post 981912)
I've never did the application, so i am not sure what they ask for. Are they asking for business EIN and your SSN?


I haven't done it either, but they don't let you start accepting payments until you give a tax ID. Still not sure if they're trying to get both from people. Lucynda may know since they're currently going through it.

phaz0rz 02-27-2019 03:19 PM

Re: Ayden update now asking for a photo ID.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by yankee (Post 981914)
That is a really cheap accountant Phaz. I can only wonder if he also has cheap advice and costing you a heck of a lot more money in the long run. Cheap service is the most expensive service oftentimes. I hope that is not the case for you.

Family run firm that's been around for decades and has some of the best reviews that can be found in the area. Good enough for what I need them for currently. They always spend hours making sure I've deducted everything possible so I'm reasonably confident they aren't costing me a ton of extra money. Hah. :/

Lucynda 02-27-2019 03:23 PM

Re: Ayden update now asking for a photo ID.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by phaz0rz (Post 981915)
I haven't done it either, but they don't let you start accepting payments until you give a tax ID. Still not sure if they're trying to get both from people. Lucynda may know since they're currently going through it.

They asked for an SSI or an EIN.

ebaystealth1974 02-27-2019 03:24 PM

Re: Ayden update now asking for a photo ID.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by phaz0rz (Post 981916)
Family run firm that's been around for decades and has some of the best reviews that can be found in the area. Good enough for what I need them for currently. They always spend hours making sure I've deducted everything possible so I'm reasonably confident they aren't costing me a ton of extra money. Hah. :/

Can't beat a great CPA/Accountant. I like them on the verge of sketchy!

Is everyone loving the QBI deduction this year?!?!

Lucynda 02-27-2019 03:25 PM

Re: Ayden update now asking for a photo ID.
 
Since they are now saying they can't verify my id I'm assuming they are checking public records. Verifying accounts sounds like a nightmare over on Amazon.

phaz0rz 02-27-2019 03:26 PM

Re: Ayden update now asking for a photo ID.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lucynda (Post 981920)
They asked for an SSI or an EIN.

So to be clear, you gave them an EIN, then a stealth name which they attempted to verify, and now they're asking for ID?

And you gave the stealth name instead of your real name because you've been in trouble with eBay before?

phaz0rz 02-27-2019 03:29 PM

Re: Ayden update now asking for a photo ID.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lucynda (Post 981922)
Since they are now saying they can't verify my id I'm assuming they are checking public records. Verifying accounts sounds like a nightmare over on Amazon.

Yeah... it's been a little too "in depth" over in the jungle for my tastes for a while.

:suspicious:

robjobs 02-27-2019 03:30 PM

Re: Ayden update now asking for a photo ID.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lucynda (Post 981920)
They asked for an SSI or an EIN.


You mean SSN?

HurricaneHuntr 02-27-2019 03:32 PM

Re: Ayden update now asking for a photo ID.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lucynda (Post 981920)
They asked for an SSI or an EIN.

Is this application off site on their end? Could you possible use the same adyen on multiple ebay accounts?

Lucynda 02-27-2019 03:32 PM

Re: Ayden update now asking for a photo ID.
 
I like sketchy CPA's too, but having a hard time finding one.

Lucynda 02-27-2019 03:42 PM

Re: Ayden update now asking for a photo ID.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by robjobs (Post 981926)
You mean SSN?

Yes, that' what I meant. I'm flustered today. I don't like waking up to this ****. I was feeling all secure about my future in stealth and then this crap. My husband and I both have health problems making work outside the home very hard on us and he needs another surgery before the end of the year so its an issue.

HurricaneHuntr 02-27-2019 03:43 PM

Re: Ayden update now asking for a photo ID.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by phaz0rz (Post 981924)
So to be clear, you gave them an EIN, then a stealth name which they attempted to verify, and now they're asking for ID?

And you gave the stealth name instead of your real name because you've been in trouble with eBay before?

I read on their site, that once you upload a photo id, it takes 30 seconds or less for it to be auto verified. Getting creative, with a EIN isn't the end of the world. if that works.

HurricaneHuntr 02-27-2019 03:44 PM

Re: Ayden update now asking for a photo ID.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lucynda (Post 981931)
Yes, that' what I meant. I'm flustered today. I don't like waking up to this ****. I was feeling all secure about my future in stealth and then this crap. My husband and I both have health problems making work outside the home very hard on us and he needs another surgery before the end of the year so its an issue.

I've read horror stories about this beta, people's sales dropped by 50-75% when paypal isn't an option.

Lucynda 02-27-2019 03:50 PM

Re: Ayden update now asking for a photo ID.
 
To be clear. I used an LLC with the correct EIN for the LLC. They asked for a name and last 4 of a social/EIN. I gave them the stealth name and the last 4 of my EIN which is registered to my name and LLC. Now they are asking for an ID and will send start sending deposits again when it's "verified". I called Ayden before I started this and they told me I wouldn't ever have to submit a photo to verify with them on eBay so the guy lied. (feels like Amazon customer service).

On the Ayden website, they let you send in copies of a photo id with the numbers blocked out which is what I plan to do for this.

My stealth name is a pretty common name. There are 27 of them in the state my stealth account is set up in. Maybe I could put the legit address of someone with the same name on the account and that would work if they are looking for public records?

Lucynda 02-27-2019 03:50 PM

Re: Ayden update now asking for a photo ID.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Moscutter (Post 981933)
I've read horror stories about this beta, people's sales dropped by 50-75% when paypal isn't an option.

The first 48 hours were a little on the slow side but popped right back up on the 3rd day no problems.

Lucynda 02-27-2019 03:56 PM

Re: Ayden update now asking for a photo ID.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Moscutter (Post 981932)
I read on their site, that once you upload a photo id, it takes 30 seconds or less for it to be auto verified. Getting creative, with a EIN isn't the end of the world. if that works.

I used an EIN but of course, it's attached to my real information. They are asking for the account beneficiary. I have no problem buying a ⊗⊗⊗⊗ ID but I read that if they are verifying it with public records it may not work.

HurricaneHuntr 02-27-2019 03:59 PM

Re: Ayden update now asking for a photo ID.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lucynda (Post 981935)
To be clear. I used an LLC with the correct EIN for the LLC. They asked for a name and last 4 of a social/EIN. I gave them the stealth name and the last 4 of my EIN which is registered to my name and LLC. Now they are asking for an ID and will send start sending deposits again when it's "verified". I called Ayden before I started this and they told me I wouldn't ever have to submit a photo to verify with them on eBay so the guy lied. (feels like Amazon customer service).

On the Ayden website, they let you send in copies of a photo id with the numbers blocked out which is what I plan to do for this.

My stealth name is a pretty common name. There are 27 of them in the state my stealth account is set up in. Maybe I could put the legit address of someone with the same name on the account and that would work if they are looking for public records?

It sounds like ebay and them are totally separate to me, meaning the information you give adyen does not need to match the ebay data. If i get this option on an account i'll give it a try. Did they send you a invite via email? So far nothing to any of my 15-20ish accounts i have. and blocking out data on your ID. Is a good sign, means creative could work. Since they maybe just want to see that it matches what you presented.

Lucynda 02-27-2019 04:04 PM

Re: Ayden update now asking for a photo ID.
 
I got an invite last year which I ignored until Paypal limited my account but I don't think you actually need an invite to do it now. If you go to the page I have added below it will take you to a sign-up area so I don't think invites are needed anymore. Do you have an account with a ⊗⊗⊗⊗ photo ID you could try this with?

https://pages.ebay.com/seller-center...s-on-ebay.html

Lucynda 02-27-2019 04:05 PM

Re: Ayden update now asking for a photo ID.
 
I am jealous of your 15-20 accounts but seeing how this will eventually be the only option we need to get this worked out. I don't like uncertain futures.

HurricaneHuntr 02-27-2019 04:20 PM

Re: Ayden update now asking for a photo ID.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lucynda (Post 981942)
I am jealous of your 15-20 accounts but seeing how this will eventually be the only option we need to get this worked out. I don't like uncertain futures.

Same, i have family to take care of. Change always scares me, but we must adapt and do what we must do.

HurricaneHuntr 02-27-2019 04:22 PM

Re: Ayden update now asking for a photo ID.
 
I was able to make my own legit account after 15 years and even got it all setup as well, And i have sold maybe 60 things. I have 1 feedback... 1 neutral and 1 negative... Creating new accounts are not easy anymore, when dealing with idiots.

1 feedback neutral was a product review, the other negative was saying the item was a fooofoo, but i am an authorized dealer! Of course they left the feedback in spanish, i think 50% of my customers do not speak english.

Lucynda 02-27-2019 04:42 PM

Re: Ayden update now asking for a photo ID.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lucynda (Post 981941)
I got an invite last year which I ignored until Paypal limited my account but I don't think you actually need an invite to do it now. If you go to the page I have added below it will take you to a sign-up area so I don't think invites are needed anymore. Do you have an account with a ⊗⊗⊗⊗ photo ID you could try this with?

https://pages.ebay.com/seller-center...s-on-ebay.html

Well, I guess you do still need an invite. When I go to look at it on one of my other stealth accounts it doesn't give me an option to sign up. I sent an email from the Adyen website asking them about sending in the ID and what exactly they are trying to verify since my account was set up as an LLC on an EIN. I also called my local government and asked if someone could ask for and receive the name of the beneficiary on my LLC and they said that no, that wasn't possible.


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