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Mikez92 02-28-2019 07:58 PM

Free shipping or charge
 
Do you see more sales with free shipping or charging shipping

Sunspot144 02-28-2019 08:01 PM

Re: Free shipping or charge
 
Surprisingly, separating shipping costs from total price entices more buyers - the price appears "cheaper" in search.

Mikez92 02-28-2019 08:02 PM

Re: Free shipping or charge
 
Confused can u explain

yankee 02-28-2019 08:03 PM

Re: Free shipping or charge
 
I like both. On auctions, always shipping fee and a high one at that.

Sunspot144 02-28-2019 08:08 PM

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SaiJin 02-28-2019 08:25 PM

Re: Free shipping or charge
 
But if you offer free shipping, I believe the search algo would bump you up,

Sunspot144 02-28-2019 08:35 PM

Re: Free shipping or charge
 
True, but more sales volume is seen by Cassini as eh.. "better"

agent006140 02-28-2019 09:02 PM

Re: Free shipping or charge
 
ebay encourages seller to offer free shipping,buyers can search and specify free shipping.
To me,sellers would just add shipping to the asking price,most buyers are wise to shop TOTAL PRICE.

Sunspot144 02-28-2019 09:10 PM

Re: Free shipping or charge
 
That's just it though... assuming your buyers are as tech-savy as you is your biggest mistake.

$10 item with $3 shipping looks 'less' to a buyer in search than the same item listed at $13

You don't really see the shipping price until you click the listing and/or get to check out..

Free shipping is just an old marketing gimmick when ecommerce took off. It was all the rage. Now who really cares lol

WEI 02-28-2019 10:56 PM

Re: Free shipping or charge
 
I always put Free shipping in all of my listings. Just add up the cost of the shipping to your pricing. :D but of course, see your profit margin on this, and the other ads.

ebaystealth1974 03-01-2019 09:53 AM

Re: Free shipping or charge
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sunspot144 (Post 982293)

Free shipping is just an old marketing gimmick when ecommerce took off. It was all the rage. Now who really cares lol


Everyone cares, that's who.

It's not gonna appear cheaper when the customer never sees it because it's buried in search.

But if you're in a targeted niche, and there's only a few competitors, then I could see charging for it.

Personally, I do it both ways.

Sunspot144 03-01-2019 11:44 AM

Re: Free shipping or charge
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tinsoldier (Post 982398)
100 million Amazon Prime subscribers might. :rolleyes:

AMZ =/= Ebay

Sunspot144 03-01-2019 11:51 AM

Re: Free shipping or charge
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ebaystealth1974 (Post 982384)
Everyone cares, that's who.

It's not gonna appear cheaper when the customer never sees it because it's buried in search.

But if you're in a targeted niche, and there's only a few competitors, then I could see charging for it.

Personally, I do it both ways.

Disagree. Sales velocity is more heavily weighted in the search algo than free shipping.

ebaystealth1974 03-01-2019 11:53 AM

Re: Free shipping or charge
 
Go ahead and post up some screenshots of heavy-competition products with non-free-shipping listings being at the top.

Not saying they DON'T exist. I just want to see some.

yankee 03-01-2019 11:55 AM

Re: Free shipping or charge
 
I have some, but I am not posting a link or screenshot of my items on this forum LOL

ebaystealth1974 03-01-2019 11:56 AM

Re: Free shipping or charge
 
Don't blame ya there! But is it really HEAVY competition? Probably not...

yankee 03-01-2019 11:58 AM

Re: Free shipping or charge
 
Maybe 1000 listings. few hundred sellers. Not like phone accessories or laptops etc..

Sunspot144 03-01-2019 12:10 PM

Re: Free shipping or charge
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by yankee (Post 982432)
Maybe 1000 listings. few hundred sellers. Not like phone accessories or laptops etc..

Ditto. I cant speak for 10k+ categories (do sell in some), but honestly I think the results would turn out the same.

Sunspot144 03-01-2019 12:22 PM

Re: Free shipping or charge
 
Even in auctions people are less concerned about shipping costs. Same item can go for more than BIN with free shipping.

ebaystealth1974 03-01-2019 12:29 PM

Re: Free shipping or charge
 
I ALWAYS charge ample shipping on my auctions. More than enough to cover the actual shipping charge.

Sunspot144 03-01-2019 12:40 PM

Re: Free shipping or charge
 
Here's a thought (only if Ebay allowed it)..

You'd stand to gain listing same item twice BIN, one with free, one without, to appeal to free shipping oriented buyers.

In less mainstream obscure niches it can be pulled off with listing title keyword trickery and no product identifiers. Worse comes to worse they slap ya on the wrist and say "bad!".

ebaystealth1974 03-01-2019 12:43 PM

Re: Free shipping or charge
 
You may not have read my post, but that's exactly what I do.

It's how I know free shipping rule the high-competition categories.

Sunspot144 03-01-2019 12:48 PM

Re: Free shipping or charge
 
Ah, way ahead of me then! :laugh:

agent006140 03-01-2019 05:10 PM

Re: Free shipping or charge
 
pros and cons of free shipping-
top rated seller gets 10% discount on FVF of item,not FVF of shipping,so what some do is roll shipping into item price and offer free shipping to avoid paying FVF on shipping and get a bigger 10% discount on the item price.
but if the buyer wants to return the item ,and pays for the return shipping,seller will have to refund in full,which means he lost money on shipping the item to the buyer.
of course if the buyer files item not as described,then seller will have to pick up return shipping,plus refund original payment in full.

agent006140 03-01-2019 08:57 PM

Re: Free shipping or charge
 
not anymore on Ebay and Etsy.
On ETSY,you can even charge a restocking fee as long as it is stated in your return policy

rsot 03-01-2019 10:41 PM

Re: Free shipping or charge
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tinsoldier (Post 982498)
I dont know about other regions but if a buyer wants to return goods - even change of mind, then we have to refund any initial outgoing shipping charge too.

Where - in the UK? Not North Am

agent006140 03-03-2019 08:45 AM

Re: Free shipping or charge
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sunspot144 (Post 982293)
that's just it though... Assuming your buyers are as tech-savy as you is your biggest mistake.

$10 item with $3 shipping looks 'less' to a buyer in search than the same item listed at $13

you don't really see the shipping price until you click the listing and/or get to check out..

Free shipping is just an old marketing gimmick when ecommerce took off. It was all the rage. Now who really cares lol

not so,when you view the listing on ebay,you see the shipping fee .

agent006140 03-03-2019 08:49 AM

Re: Free shipping or charge
 
i HAVE never offered free shipping and I have been selling for many years on various venues.
But I notice lately many sellers are charging USPS priority mail plus a few dollars morel,like 12 dollars for a small item and ship USPS FIRST CLASS in a padded envelope,buyers resent that,the least they can do is to use a box.

Play 03-03-2019 08:55 AM

Re: Free shipping or charge
 
Previously people would separate shipping charges to save on fees, as sellers wouldn't get charged fees on shipping.

That changed in the last few years when eBay clamped down on sellers charges excessive shipping prices and lowering the item price to save on fees.

Some even went to extremes of listing an item for £0.99 and putting shipping prices at £50+ , so they just get charged listing fees + FVF on the 99p.

Now things have changed though, you can't do that anymore.

agent006140 03-03-2019 09:15 AM

Re: Free shipping or charge
 
Ebay charging FVF on shipping has been around for more than 10 years,likely 15 plus years.
but the end result is the same,it just split the FVF to item and shipping.
You pay FVF on total payment(item and shipping,but intl shipping,you pay the domestic shipping FVF)

Sunspot144 03-03-2019 09:20 AM

Re: Free shipping or charge
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by agent006140 (Post 982746)
not so,when you view the listing on ebay,you see the shipping fee .

It's harder to see in addition to 'cheaper' asking price, and results in listings ranking higher without free shipping in medium competition niches.

SaiJin 03-03-2019 10:32 AM

Re: Free shipping or charge
 
Eh?! It hasnt been 10 years that they started charging on shipping cost FVF.
A few years maybe, but anyways, I still think using free shipping to bump up the exposure is best.

Sunspot144 03-03-2019 10:38 AM

Re: Free shipping or charge
 
Which is totes unethical. Shipping and handling is a business expense, not a gross profit of the sold item.

People abused it though. Ebay encouraged free shipping to get FVF on shipping costs. Even tho sales velocity outweighs it in their search algo, slightly contradicting.

ebaystealth1974 03-03-2019 11:46 AM

Re: Free shipping or charge
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SaiJin (Post 982765)
Eh?! It hasnt been 10 years that they started charging on shipping cost FVF.
A few years maybe

A lot closer to 10 years than just a few...


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