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Sending stealth PP money as goods/services
 

Hi,

Due to personal reasons, I am unable to create so many bank accounts for each stealth account.

Does anyone send payment from their stealth PayPals to a stronger PayPal as goods/services in order to cash it out?

What, in your opinion, is the max I should be sending to my stronger paypals as goods/services per month to stay somewhat safe.

I know everyone will say its too late, you've linked your paypals, but this is my only choice and I don't mind making new accounts as I move forward.

thanks!

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Are we referring to USA PayPal?
If you can just ignore the fees you're getting, then it's okay.
I don't see any problem sending as Goods/Services, than sending the friends/family option. Sending too much friends/family to repetitive receiver causes problems.
Well, as for my Non-US PayPal, it allows me to use/withdraw to the same Visa Card in multiple PayPal accounts. (Take note that the names, address, etc. are different)

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Sending too many payments to 1 PayPal is going to get you in trouble.

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You can definitely do that, but don't do it quite too often. Send Like once per 2 weeks, or once a month.

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Does invoicing yourself makes this less risky?
I've been doing f&f for months so far no issues.

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I think it should be safe if it's not too often.
Did you also think about creating a 'dummy store' for that reason?

Or even tried payoneer (they can give you multiple USD receiving accounts)?

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Hi for exsamply if i sell a think sending $$$ to Goods/Services it is normall i pursonotly do that for over 2 year that will not be reason paypal to colse your account there is so manny adther reason but not that for sure.

Just to tell you how they work if you send from one PayPal $$$ very often there is a system that will trigger that and yes if the $$$ is coming from one PayPal only they know what you doing but if you make small transactions from 3-4 different PayPal and the one that you send more $$$ every few days it will be no problem so they will think that that PayPal is really make same service to different people but if you resive the money from one account only it is just meter of time .

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No problem here been doing it for years

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started out doing this since I was using one Paypal to buy all of my shipping. I sent money to myself from 2 stealth accounts like i was selling a service. Paypal eventually restricted the main account (real info) that was receiving the payments and put a hard restriction (didn't even ask for an ID) on the stealth one. One of the accounts remained unscathed.

If the problem is a closed account with a bank there are ways to get around that. My husbands ex got him into trouble with bounced checks and to open up a new checking account he changed the last number on his social to 1 number off. The banks never caught it and if they had it would be really easy for him to say someone put it in the computer wrong or he wrote it down wrong. My 5's tend to look like some people's 3's so that's another way to get around it if caught. You might consider creating a synthetic identity with an EIN (you can google that, don't use a ⊗⊗⊗⊗ social) and getting a ⊗⊗⊗⊗ ID and see if that works (just keep in mind giving banks false info is illegal, but unless your ripping people off it's unlikely anyone will care. You also might consider opening up an LLC with an EIN and seeing if they will let you use that without an ID. I've read their are banks that cater to people who have trouble opening checking accounts. Still another alternative is applying for a new social security number. You are allowed to change your social 1 time in your life. Their may be more solutions out there. Just do some digging and they are bound to come up.

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I was thinking of doing a limit per PayPal that is accepting goods and services from my stealths.

Would about $4k a month received in goods and services from the same 4-5 stealth accounts be a good ballpark range to not get flagged?
Only about $800 a month from each stealth will be paid in goods and services to my strong paypal account with real info.


Thank you for all your replies, each one was helpful!

Re: Sending stealth PP money as goods/services
 

I was flagged for moving less than 100 dollars a day between accounts. It took them 8 months to catch me though.

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From your experience,
how many payments to one paypal is too much per month?

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Hmm, like a dummy eBay store?

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Maybe this was due to the frequency of how many times you were moving it between accounts and not so much the $ amount?

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Yeah, so it's better to just send one-time $500.00, than sending $100.00 5 times in a row. That should look suspicious to PayPal :croc:

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I sometimes send money from some of my stealths at regular intervals without any problem, but it's maybe 1 or 2 times per month. I don't think that's very unusual since so many people send money to the same people for various legitimate reasons. Of course draining your entire PP and sending it as F&F is probably NOT a good idea.