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| justme12 | 06-05-2019 11:09 AM |
New accounts getting suspended twice within 3 days
So I have been creating stealth accounts for about 10 years now with the same method and up until this past month have not had any major issues. So now after creating my stealth accounts the account is suspended twice within 3 days. The first suspension is normal they just want to know you are a real person who created the account. But now after a day or two of being reinstated the account is suspended indefinitely. Here is my process below.
1. Create ⊗⊗⊗⊗ account info, name, address, (text now) phone number, email address.
2. Create new VMware machine.
3. Go to router settings create new mac address. Turn off router and modem restart to get new IP address.
4. Log into VMware machine.
5. Create Paypal and verify email, phone and bank account.
6. Next day create eBay account, link verified Paypal account.
7. Create 1 listing for low price item like dvd or old playstation game.
8. Within hour account gets limited. Call get account reinstated. Relist item.
9. Account get's limited 2nd time within a couple days. And can't be reinstated.
eBay rep will not say exactly why they suspend the account but I have fished for info. A couple cool reps did say it had nothing to do with my IP address after I asked them could it be my IP address.
The only thing I can think it could be is the phone number. I know the numbers are recycled but what are the odds with the last 12 accounts I created all the numbers are linked to suspended accounts?
I even linked 6 fully verified Paypal accounts. I what I mean by fully verified is email address, phone number, bank account, photo ID and social security number! But eBay still suspended the account.
So just to recap I'm using brand new VMware machine, IP address, contact info ect. and verified Paypal account. What the heck I"m I all of a sudden doing wrong? |
| justme12 | 06-05-2019 11:14 AM |
Re: New accounts getting suspended twice within 3 days
Yeah maybe I did use the same area code for all the accounts. So that's a good possibility. Will try different area code if that don't work will try a prepaid phone, although those numbers are recycled as well. |
Re: New accounts getting suspended twice within 3 days
Based on your setup its either the phone number or it could be the VCC you are using |
| justme12 | 06-05-2019 11:37 AM |
Re: New accounts getting suspended twice within 3 days
I'm not using any VCC. I use a VBA. |
Re: New accounts getting suspended twice within 3 days
Quote:
Originally Posted by justme12
(Post 1008499)
I'm not using any VCC. I use a VBA.
| In that case it could be the VBA you’re using |
| justme12 | 06-05-2019 12:11 PM |
Re: New accounts getting suspended twice within 3 days
Maybe but I doubt it. Never had any issues with using vba's with eBay. |
Re: New accounts getting suspended twice within 3 days
Quote:
Originally Posted by justme12
(Post 1008504)
Maybe but I doubt it. Never had any issues with using vba's with eBay.
| Something has changed within your process so it can only be something like your phone number or bank account. |
| justme12 | 06-05-2019 12:57 PM |
Re: New accounts getting suspended twice within 3 days
I agree. Will start with phone number and see what happens. Will post update. |
| robjobs | 06-05-2019 01:16 PM |
Re: New accounts getting suspended twice within 3 days
People ITT are going to point out your setup but it has to do really do with THEM (ebay) not your setup. They're banning new accounts for good reason because they KNOW about stealth now and don't want a **** load of ⊗⊗⊗⊗ accounts on their platform. Elephant in the room is here. |
| justme12 | 06-05-2019 02:03 PM |
Re: New accounts getting suspended twice within 3 days
Your comment has no factual basis and sounds ridicolous. I'm sure eBay does know about stealth accounts. which compared to the thousands of legit accounts opened every day is a small amount. So to suspend every new account because it may be a stealth account is GARBAGE! eBay is not going to assume all new accounts are stealth. eBay makes it's money from it's users so to suspend every new account because they think it MAYBE a stealth account is just dumb. eBay bot's detected something in my setup that's linked to a suspended account. That's the logical reason! |
| justme12 | 06-05-2019 02:04 PM |
Re: New accounts getting suspended twice within 3 days
Quote:
Originally Posted by robjobs
(Post 1008515)
People ITT are going to point out your setup but it has to do really do with THEM (ebay) not your setup. They're banning new accounts for good reason because they KNOW about stealth now and don't want a **** load of ⊗⊗⊗⊗ accounts on their platform. Elephant in the room is here.
| Your comment has no factual basis and sounds ridicolous. I'm sure eBay does know about stealth accounts. which compared to the thousands of legit accounts opened every day is a small amount. So to suspend every new account because it may be a stealth account is GARBAGE! eBay is not going to assume all new accounts are stealth. eBay makes it's money from it's users so to suspend every new account because they think it MAYBE a stealth account is just dumb. eBay bot's detected something in my setup that's linked to a suspended account. That's the logical reason! |
Re: New accounts getting suspended twice within 3 days
Quote:
Originally Posted by robjobs
(Post 1008515)
People ITT are going to point out your setup but it has to do really do with THEM (ebay) not your setup. They're banning new accounts for good reason because they KNOW about stealth now and don't want a **** load of ⊗⊗⊗⊗ accounts on their platform. Elephant in the room is here.
| Looks like it’s tine to put on your tin foil hat :)
Why would a platform on the scale of eBay just ban every new user just incase? |
| justme12 | 06-05-2019 02:19 PM |
Re: New accounts getting suspended twice within 3 days
Quote:
Originally Posted by jas
(Post 1008522)
Looks like it’s tine to put on your tin foil hat :)
Why would a platform on the scale of eBay just ban every new user just incase?
| LMAO:laugh: |
| agent006140 | 06-05-2019 03:21 PM |
Re: New accounts getting suspended twice within 3 days
I would not be surprised if they have bought copies of stealth guides and studied them |
| justme12 | 06-05-2019 04:28 PM |
Re: New accounts getting suspended twice within 3 days
So I just got off the phone with eBay and called on one of my recent suspended accounts. I told the rep I think the account got suspended because I used my girlfriend phone number to register the account and found out that her account was suspended. Well after a bunch of small talk and playing dumb I got the rep to confirm the account was suspended because of the phone number I used. He said everything else was ok. Will try some new numbers and see what happens. Also thanks to those who gave feedback preciate it! |
| brokenmirror123 | 06-06-2019 03:03 PM |
Re: New accounts getting suspended twice within 3 days
I m dealing with the same problem. I do agree with you about the phone concerning |
| iamlmfao | 06-08-2019 12:34 AM |
Re: New accounts getting suspended twice within 3 days
Quote:
Originally Posted by justme12
(Post 1008537)
So I just got off the phone with eBay and called on one of my recent suspended accounts. I told the rep I think the account got suspended because I used my girlfriend phone number to register the account and found out that her account was suspended. Well after a bunch of small talk and playing dumb I got the rep to confirm the account was suspended because of the phone number I used. He said everything else was ok. Will try some new numbers and see what happens. Also thanks to those who gave feedback preciate it!
|
Why would they reinstate the first time you call then ban you the second time again if your linked?!?!? Do the ebay reps not see any of this linkage information till AFTER the second suspension?
Im in the same boat. But I don't think its the phone number. I think there tools are becoming allot better at linkages with addresses and maybe yes phone numbers. But I mean carrier recycle numbers all the time. |
| stealthbro | 06-08-2019 12:43 AM |
Re: New accounts getting suspended twice within 3 days
same problem here.. i know for sure its not the IP. Mobile verizon IP i was using. I know for sure its NOT the google voice number because i have other accounts the are created with google voice numbers and they are totally fine. the setup?: i using multiloginapp .. most advanced setup out there. ... |
| RetroRedneck | 06-08-2019 11:39 AM |
Re: New accounts getting suspended twice within 3 days
Maybe the new address is deemed too high risk? Maybe they tap into the old credit reporting agency database (ie Experian, etc)?
Keep us updated. |
| flowclothingco | 06-09-2019 05:25 PM |
Re: New accounts getting suspended twice within 3 days
Going to bump this thread, I have always gone extra steps to cover my butt and I see a lot of my new accounts going down within a day, if anyone else wants to chime in it'd be greatly appreciated. @ Justme12, I use almost the same setup as you except tracfone and I wait longer between linking. Again any other veterans want to chime it'd be appreciated!!! |
| flowclothingco | 06-09-2019 05:29 PM |
Re: New accounts getting suspended twice within 3 days
Quote:
Originally Posted by justme12
(Post 1008491)
2. Create new VMware machine.
So just to recap I'm using brand new VMware machine
| What OS are you using on the VM?
I feel like its possible they're suspicious on new Linux OS account opened... |
| iamlmfao | 06-09-2019 08:57 PM |
Re: New accounts getting suspended twice within 3 days
This is happening to EVERYONE, I spoke with the rep and he literally was screaming at me saying it TOO SOON, THIS IS RED FLAG TO EBAY LISTING SAME DAY ACCOUNT IS MADE. I was like ok but I didnt even list LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL, i think they want cookies guys and maybe a few days old before u do anything. |
| Rageless1 | 06-09-2019 09:09 PM |
Re: New accounts getting suspended twice within 3 days
I called in for a couple of accounts that got suspended after creating a seller account and they told me on both that they couldn't verify the personal information on the account against their public database. |
| jphole | 06-09-2019 09:38 PM |
Re: New accounts getting suspended twice within 3 days
Ebay suspended all new accounts crazily nowadays |
Re: New accounts getting suspended twice within 3 days
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rageless1
(Post 1009508)
I called in for a couple of accounts that got suspended after creating a seller account and they told me on both that they couldn't verify the personal information on the account against their public database.
| Welcome to the forum - all the best as you master stealth :thumb: |
| bman707 | 06-09-2019 10:01 PM |
Re: New accounts getting suspended twice within 3 days
I’m not having any problems? |
| dealagreeproceed | 06-09-2019 10:23 PM |
Re: New accounts getting suspended twice within 3 days
Quote:
Originally Posted by agent006140
(Post 1008530)
I would not be surprised if they have bought copies of stealth guides and studied them
| no offense to aspkin, this forum is the BEST by far but those guides blow unless they ve been updated maybe :p |
| jphole | 06-09-2019 10:56 PM |
Re: New accounts getting suspended twice within 3 days
Quote:
Originally Posted by dealagreeproceed
(Post 1009526)
no offense to aspkin, this forum is the BEST by far but those guides blow unless they ve been updated maybe :p
| I agree with this totally
ebay changed the rules of game |
| nickopedia | 06-10-2019 01:23 AM |
Re: New accounts getting suspended twice within 3 days
Are you guys seasoning your account?
When I create account, I NEVER list right away. I usually spend quite a bit of time just browsing around, searching up random items, adding stuff to my watch list, etc. I even will bid on some items here and there.... I'll continue doing this for at least 3 or 4 weeks before I even list my first items.
This method works for me, never a problem. |
| stealthbro | 06-10-2019 02:24 AM |
Re: New accounts getting suspended twice within 3 days
Quote:
Originally Posted by flowclothingco
(Post 1009487)
Going to bump this thread, I have always gone extra steps to cover my butt and I see a lot of my new accounts going down within a day, if anyone else wants to chime in it'd be greatly appreciated. @ Justme12, I use almost the same setup as you except tracfone and I wait longer between linking. Again any other veterans want to chime it'd be appreciated!!!
| i added you on skype: Justme12 |
| stealthbro | 06-10-2019 02:28 AM |
Re: New accounts getting suspended twice within 3 days
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rageless1
(Post 1009508)
I called in for a couple of accounts that got suspended after creating a seller account and they told me on both that they couldn't verify the personal information on the account against their public database.
| thats the IP, use a residential ip such as verizon for usa accounts or rogers for ca. that will skip the public records question.
thats phase one.. then most likley you will hit the second suspension .. therefore i still look for a solution |
| shaikiviti | 06-10-2019 05:08 AM |
Re: New accounts getting suspended twice within 3 days
nothing seems to work |
| Rageless1 | 06-10-2019 07:53 AM |
Re: New accounts getting suspended twice within 3 days
Quote:
Originally Posted by stealthbro
(Post 1009549)
thats the IP, use a residential ip such as verizon for usa accounts or rogers for ca. that will skip the public records question.
thats phase one.. then most likley you will hit the second suspension .. therefore i still look for a solution
| Actually I am using T-mobile hotspot for IPs. They get suspended literally 10 minutes after creating a seller account.
Never happened before until recently. |
| brokenmirror123 | 06-10-2019 07:55 AM |
Re: New accounts getting suspended twice within 3 days
yup, seems ebay checkign on many creiteria like bank/ip/phone along with your behavior (cookies, listing) |
| Rageless1 | 06-10-2019 11:58 AM |
Re: New accounts getting suspended twice within 3 days
I called in for a couple and they said it was a verification they do for new accounts. So they done public database verification or one where they ask if you have anyone else helping you and what you plan to sell. |
| shaikiviti | 06-10-2019 06:10 PM |
Re: New accounts getting suspended twice within 3 days
I have this issues too |
| stealthbro | 06-11-2019 01:59 AM |
Re: New accounts getting suspended twice within 3 days
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rageless1
(Post 1009643)
I called in for a couple and they said it was a verification they do for new accounts. So they done public database verification or one where they ask if you have anyone else helping you and what you plan to sell.
| i read many AI articles yesterday evening.. so they actually run now every data through public databases.. missmatch boom gone.
We trying now canada accounts.
I think they will back up in a month it is to strict. |
| Rudd47 | 06-12-2019 09:25 PM |
Re: New accounts getting suspended twice within 3 days
yes. this is really new. it happen to me also , all new ebay account are suspended for verification purpose , you have to call to answer question from the public data base in order for them to reinstate you |
| Rudd47 | 06-12-2019 09:26 PM |
Re: New accounts getting suspended twice within 3 days
Quote:
Originally Posted by shaikiviti
(Post 1009731)
I have this issues too
| yes. this is really new. it happen to me also , all new ebay account are suspended for verification purpose , you have to call to answer question from the public data base in order for them to reinstate you |
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