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Who has successfully ignored a Cease and Desist?
 

Who here has ignored a cease and desist/ ignored a c&d from selling on a stealth account, as no one ever replies to say the outcome (Johnson and palm letters for example) what happened?

Cheers:en:

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It really depends on the method they are sending the C&D.

If it's by email, it could hardly be taken that seriously, esp. if the sender can't even get your name correct.

If you receive a certified mailing via post in your real details, that's an entirely different matter.

I agree that responding to one is likely not the best thing to do.

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That is very true, however if you are using a stealth account, how would a company even be able to find your real details/ address to send the letter to?, I'm wondering if Paypal can show the company your bank details???

My friend received 1 in the mail ages ago demanding a payment,and ended up having to hire an attorney to negotiate a lower price. He wondered if he should have just ignored it. After all the fees he had to pay quite a few thousand £. I told him he should have used Ebay stealth lol
but not sure if that would have worked...

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Did you receive yours as a letter or email?

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Even with a stealth account, the true owner can easily be found by "following the money".

If I was the lawyer (solicitor) dealing with this matter, I'd definitely serve subpoena (discovery) to PayPal to tell me the bank/card that the funds are going to. From there, the bank can be served a subpoena to find out the actual recipient of the funds.

Stealth or not, there is always a trail back to the actual beneficiary of the money. I would suspect that the law in the UK is not that much different than in the USA when it comes to these types of matters.

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why is this even a thread? Stop selling the ****.

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Of course, you bring up a good point. It's doubtful some solicitors is going to go after a guy who made just £500, or even £5,000 in sales so spend much time and efforts on it. After all, the easy hanging fruits is always going to be the gullible chap who gets scared out of his wits faced with a demand notice, then caves in to a settlement. Firms like Johnson & Pham are notorious for preying on those types of people.

I am also aware that the legal standards of proof in a UK Crown Court are a bit higher than in the USA. I suppose that's to discourage people from filing frivolous cases without a providing considerable proof of damages.

In any case, it's still a good idea to err on the side of caution if faced with these matters since you don't want to get too comfortable breaking the law. ;)

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I got a CD letter from one of the major phone case companies after I sold 10 cases @ $10 a piece. I didn't know the cases were not legit. Sure it had a lot to do with me getting a indefinite suspension. CD letter was sent to my email and residence. The postal letter spelled my name wrong. I ignored the letter and never sold there product again. Never heard anything back.

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Yes of course you should stop selling the stuff, especially if they are found to be non-legitimate by the company and you have received a warning, however simply not selling the stuff doesn't stop a cease and desist...

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sure, did the cease and desist also demand a payment? Or was it to just tell you to stop.

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I ignored one once and then they sent it to paypal, which then got shut down.

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C&Ds are dime a dozen these days

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Did yours demand a payment? Or just to stop? Thanks

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I am one of those people.
Just got email 17 page letter with accusations and * demand for trial*
Then other letter saying via email and certified

(Except no certified letter has been found)

My sales didn't exceed 300.00

Since the eBay is under my sons name , a lawyer suggested I respond to let them know my name and say the name they have is not associated with such accusations.
let them know (truth) that I am mentally disabled and I will need more time to find legal help

Then they emailed me back demanding
Supplier, remainding, bought and sold

And if I don't comply by this Friday they will proceed.

I also verified they actually bought a set from me.

I spoke to a few lawyers and one of them laughed and told me toss everything to the garbage and live my life.

Others here have told me the same

But I'm still scared..

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No, they cannot, unless police is involved but that's 1/1000.

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If it was by mail, and not registered, it's just a valid "secured" contact.

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And if I don't comply by this Friday they will proceed.


But I'm still scared..[/QUOTE]




I am sorry to hear and pleasde keep us posted as to wehat happens by next Friday, as to weather they do "start proceedings" or not. I personally have also heard many people both on here and a webiste filled with lawyers say that in similar situations, nothing has happened, but obviously I do not know. Anyway I wish you all the best and please keep in touch...

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What about if they use a subpoena? To be honest I am not entirely sure what that is, and as to weather they would ever use it is a whole other question.

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what does "secured" contact mean?

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now thats the best thing ever come out of your mouth

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I am sorry to hear and pleasde keep us posted as to wehat happens by next Friday, as to weather they do "start proceedings" or not. I personally have also heard many people both on here and a webiste filled with lawyers say that in similar situations, nothing has happened, but obviously I do not know. Anyway I wish you all the best and please keep in touch...[/QUOTE]


Yes I've seen many with same issues, but no end to their story.

This is so horrible to a very delicate person like me.
My mind is very delicate.

They have made me sick as never.

Yes I will share as much as I can

For now I think my friend helped me get legal representation.

I would have just ignored but the eBay store is under my sons name and no way I can take that chance of them going after my son .

I promised my son I'd never cause him trouble
And I did :(

I thank u

Let's see what happens...

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Any word on whats happening then?

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Any news?



Yes I've seen many with same issues, but no end to their story.

This is so horrible to a very delicate person like me.
My mind is very delicate.

They have made me sick as never.

Yes I will share as much as I can

For now I think my friend helped me get legal representation.

I would have just ignored but the eBay store is under my sons name and no way I can take that chance of them going after my son .

I promised my son I'd never cause him trouble
And I did :(

I thank u

Let's see what happens...[/QUOTE]

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Email can be by all means submitted as evidence in court in the same way as you would any other form of documentary evidence. However, the reliability of e-mail evidence will be subject to scrutiny.

This is why it's not wise to respond to anything you get by email. You might be tempted to do so, but doing so will not help your cause. You always have the right to remain and stay silent. DO NOT TALK TO ANYONE. ASK A LAWYER if you are unsure how to deal with the situation.

I have received these types of emails before, and they go right into my SPAM folder for a very good reason.

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My friends lawyer has appt. Set up for this Monday.

I been so so sick over this.
See my son let me use his store but he has never had clue what I post.
And I always pride myself in never causing him trouble.

That's my son ., how could I get him in trouble.. His own mother.

At the same time is a very valuable lesson
I would have never sold anything if I really knew how awful the trouble. Ever.

I don't want to sell anything at all if I'm not 100% sure its legit and Im not doing anything wrong.

I'm no thief, nor criminal :(

I just want this to go away
Without me hurting my son

And stick to my paintings and Xmas time I make custom socks.

There's a whole world of legit things to sell
I didn't pay attention

And now. .. :'(

However, even though the site effects have me mental

I do believe this is a lesson . and I will be OK and my son too.. This was a lesson for me to learn to be careful, knowledgeable and never to even think of selling copies of anything .

Its bad, its not honorable and in the end you lose way more than wtv amt. You make.


Ty

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If the account is in a family members or friends name, you absolutely have to comply with the C&D, there is no way around it. Ignoring it or letting dead lines go by will bring more trouble for your friend or family member.

If it's a stealth account that's another thing. First of all if you really sign a c&d letter in a false name that might be falsification of documents as the signing person doesn't exist. As mentioned previously the lawyer might try to follow the money and eventually end up with your name and address. However I doubt that he will do so. The time and cost to do so seems too high.

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Again people, DO NOT respond to anything you get (such as C&D) especially if it's by email.

Email is not considered reliable, and stuff ends up in the spam/junk folder routinely. If you get a notice, you are best advised to STOP what you are doing and think. Responding can just make things worse.

People are just far too gullible sometimes and get scared by words in an email. Sheesh...

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[QUOTE=Loveinu123;1011257]My friends lawyer has appt. Set up for this Monday.

Ok, well as I said before I wish you all the best and hope that this blows over for you, keep us updated.

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Any news at all?