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cefojem702 01-26-2020 09:18 AM

who is it responsibility if the parcel was inspected by country customs and is not ne
 
greeting from russia!
i would like to get some help please if possible. ordered a brand new sealed go pro 7 off ebay.com

when the item arrived to my country it was inspected by russian customs. i dont know why they did it but they did not care about careful inspection at all. so when the item arrived to me its not new, it looks used and can not be used as intended. and it supposed to be a gift

the seller refused to take return

before i will start a case i would like to know who is responsible if the item was inspected by customs officer and it is used now when it was brand new?

sorry for anything english isnot my first language
thanks

agent006140 01-26-2020 11:36 AM

Re: who is it responsibility if the parcel was inspected by country customs and is no
 
Seller is expected to deliver an item as described,so if it is new,and now not new,seller has to accept responsibilty.
He has to refund or replace and then take it up with his insurer.
You can file a dispute with EBAY within 30 days,and you should get your money back,but EBAY would ask you to return the item,and seller is supposed to send you a return label which he canno do since he is in USA and you are in Russia,he should send you money to pay for a label.ifyou tell him how much it costs

agent006140 01-26-2020 11:37 AM

Re: who is it responsibility if the parcel was inspected by country customs and is no
 
just curious,what did the customs do to your item so it is now used,and not NEW?

phaz0rz 01-26-2020 11:48 AM

Re: who is it responsibility if the parcel was inspected by country customs and is no
 
Open a return request if that's what you want to do. You should include pictures showing the damage, because otherwise, eBay may want you to pay for return shipping. You have the right to return whatever you bought regardless of how it arrived, how it was delivered, the condition it arrived in, or anything else. The buyer is always allowed to return something bought on eBay.

cefojem702 01-26-2020 11:53 AM

Re: who is it responsibility if the parcel was inspected by country customs and is no
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by agent006140 (Post 1064667)
just curious,what did the customs do to your item so it is now used,and not NEW?

it was brand new apple watches s4. customs officer damaged the box while inspected and the box is look terrible now. i can not consider this item as new

cefojem702 01-26-2020 11:57 AM

Re: who is it responsibility if the parcel was inspected by country customs and is no
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by agent006140 (Post 1064666)
Seller is expected to deliver an item as described,so if it is new,and now not new,seller has to accept responsibilty.
He has to refund or replace and then take it up with his insurer.
You can file a dispute with EBAY within 30 days,and you should get your money back,but EBAY would ask you to return the item,and seller is supposed to send you a return label which he canno do since he is in USA and you are in Russia,he should send you money to pay for a label.ifyou tell him how much it costs

i dont know what was the price for seller to send my order from his country to me. but i do know that its very expensive to return the item from my country to seller.

the item price was almost 500 usd with shipping

and i have to pay like 230 usd to ship it back

is the seller obligated to cover ALL my shipping costs in this case?

cefojem702 01-26-2020 11:58 AM

Re: who is it responsibility if the parcel was inspected by country customs and is no
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by phaz0rz (Post 1064669)
Open a return request if that's what you want to do. You should include pictures showing the damage, because otherwise, eBay may want you to pay for return shipping. You have the right to return whatever you bought regardless of how it arrived, how it was delivered, the condition it arrived in, or anything else. The buyer is always allowed to return something bought on eBay.

sellers policies states no returns allowed
how am i supposed to return the item if he reject my return?

cefojem702 01-26-2020 12:02 PM

Re: who is it responsibility if the parcel was inspected by country customs and is no
 
i have no idea why i spelled apple watch instead of go pro in the post above.
i was lurking on ebay and it was in recommended items to buy
probably thats why. sorry

cefojem702 01-26-2020 12:13 PM

Re: who is it responsibility if the parcel was inspected by country customs and is no
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by agent006140 (Post 1064666)
Seller is expected to deliver an item as described,so if it is new,and now not new,seller has to accept responsibilty.

is it what ebay policies state? if so can u please provide a link to ebay policies with that statement?

agent006140 01-26-2020 05:25 PM

Re: who is it responsibility if the parcel was inspected by country customs and is no
 
it is not Ebay policy,but understood in retail business,you buy an item ,it said new and it turns out not so.
Ebay has a 30 days Money back guarantee MBG,in 30 days you file item not as describe dispute,if seller does nothing,Ebay will step in and ask you to return the item to get a refund.
Ebay or seller will give you a return shipping label,but in your case,they cant print you a Russian label,so you need to ask the seller .
Look up Ebay MBG ,foreign shipment may even be more than 30 days

agent006140 01-26-2020 05:26 PM

Re: who is it responsibility if the parcel was inspected by country customs and is no
 
or just go to your MY EBAY,look up the order and file dispute of item not as described.

agent006140 01-26-2020 05:29 PM

Re: who is it responsibility if the parcel was inspected by country customs and is no
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cefojem702 (Post 1064673)
sellers policies states no returns allowed
how am i supposed to return the item if he reject my return?

your item not as described TRUMPS seller no return policy,just go and open a case.
make sure it is item not as described.
( YOU SAID box is no good,but is the watch good,like NEW?)

Pedroalva 01-27-2020 07:13 AM

Re: who is it responsibility if the parcel was inspected by country customs and is no
 
The seller is not responsible if they damaged the item at the duty custom ,should fill a claim to the inspector,
but is always true that if you decide to send back to the seller as item damage and provide the photo eby will stay at your favour as usual

agent006140 01-27-2020 07:28 AM

Re: who is it responsibility if the parcel was inspected by country customs and is no
 
seller is responsible for delivering an item as described,in his case,it is not as described.
seller should refund/replace,if insured,then file claim.
cant go after the Customs,so if no insurance,seller eats the loss.
thats what insurance is for,to protect the seller.

rsot 01-27-2020 07:37 AM

Re: who is it responsibility if the parcel was inspected by country customs and is no
 
Welcome to the forum OP - all the best as you master stealth :thumb:


Seller can't simply reject the return - you have the right to do the return - listen to advice of posters

prodigyace 01-27-2020 07:58 AM

Re: who is it responsibility if the parcel was inspected by country customs and is no
 
This is why some people refuse to ship overseas.

Sucks, but its technically the sellers responsibility.

Pedroalva 01-27-2020 08:02 AM

Re: who is it responsibility if the parcel was inspected by country customs and is no
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by agent006140 (Post 1064822)
seller is responsible for delivering an item as described,in his case,it is not as described.
seller should refund/replace,if insured,then file claim.
cant go after the Customs,so if no insurance,seller eats the loss.
thats what insurance is for,to protect the seller.


If the item is damaged during the transit is not the seller fault if he did already the job to send the item in good condition ,once the package is given to a third part is not his responsibility anymore what happen next .
If the seller decide to do an insurance it is a protection to him against the buyer that when receive the item that knows has damaged during the transit but instead to go to claim against courier/ custom decide to guilt the seller in this case he is protected and not having the loss

agent006140 01-27-2020 08:09 AM

Re: who is it responsibility if the parcel was inspected by country customs and is no
 
I dont think you understand ,carrier works for the seller ,the seller chooses the carrier to perform a task,if you hire someone to work on a job and he fouls up,you are responsible.
In this case,the culprit is the Russian customs,you cant go after the customs,so thats where insurance comes in,to protect you from such losses,other losses would be force matur-earthquake,volcano eruption,war,hurricane.
There is no such thing as I HAVE DONE MY JOB,I shipped the item.
question for buyer-
if box is damaged but the watch is not,must he have the box?
may be seller can get him a box?

Pedroalva 01-27-2020 08:16 AM

Re: who is it responsibility if the parcel was inspected by country customs and is no
 
When the seller send the item in good condition and protect it then give it to the shipping company and the courier is going to damage it during the transit is not the seller fault
Also a kid of 5 years old knows it

james13v 01-27-2020 10:59 AM

Re: who is it responsibility if the parcel was inspected by country customs and is no
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cefojem702 (Post 1064671)
it was brand new apple watches s4. customs officer damaged the box while inspected and the box is look terrible now. i can not consider this item as new

This. This is why I never ship to Russia. Every Russian KNOWS that your customs office is garbage. You know that. We know that. Even ebay reps recommend not to sell to Russia. Why looking through GO Pros for sale, I can't even find one with Russian shipping

As a Russian myself, people like you make us all look bad. I always have problems with Russian buyers, even if I some how manage to avoid having a problem with Russian customs, which in itself is almost inevitable . You're seriously going to cost the seller $100's because your customs office destroyed the BOX? No matter how good the seller packaged it, even if they wrapped it in 30 feet of bubble wrap, how can they possibly prevent your customs office from opening it and damaging it? If someone gave me a $400 gift, I'm pretty sure I could overlook some damage to the box.

Go ask your customs office why they destroyed it. Take some responsibility.

james13v 01-27-2020 11:00 AM

Re: who is it responsibility if the parcel was inspected by country customs and is no
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pedroalva (Post 1064845)
When the seller send the item in good condition and protect it then give it to the shipping company and the courier is going to damage it during the transit is not the seller fault
Also a kid of 5 years old knows it

the problem is, ebay bends over backwards for buyers, so based on ebay rules, it IS the responsibility of the seller. And if a seller does free returns, they are even responsible for getting the item back to themselves lol

JamesNorth101 01-27-2020 11:13 AM

Re: who is it responsibility if the parcel was inspected by country customs and is no
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pedroalva (Post 1064845)
When the seller send the item in good condition and protect it then give it to the shipping company and the courier is going to damage it during the transit is not the seller fault
Also a kid of 5 years old knows it

While its not directly the sellers fault it is down to the seller to offer a refund or a replacement and then see to claim the cost back from the courier

agent006140 01-27-2020 12:34 PM

Re: who is it responsibility if the parcel was inspected by country customs and is no
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JamesNorth101 (Post 1064886)
While its not directly the sellers fault it is down to the seller to offer a refund or a replacement and then see to claim the cost back from the courier

I wonder how does Pedro manage to last that long as an etailor ??????????
Good suggestion,you cant get it from Russian customs,but you can get it from the carrier,just dont tell them it is the customs which did the damage.
Who is the carrier?
There was a time neither Fed Exp or UPS will accept packages,just documents to Russia and US insurance company would only insure a shipment in transit,once it landed in Russia,insurance coverage ceases.
Is it DHL?

cefojem702 01-27-2020 05:06 PM

Re: who is it responsibility if the parcel was inspected by country customs and is no
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by james13v (Post 1064879)
This. This is why I never ship to Russia. Every Russian KNOWS that your customs office is garbage. You know that. We know that. Even ebay reps recommend not to sell to Russia. Why looking through GO Pros for sale, I can't even find one with Russian shipping

this can happen in any country
and i managed to get some new information. i was in my post office and tried to get on what happened. so the post office employees inspected my parcel with me and noticed that the parcel was sent as a gift with very low item value

the seller did a custom fraud and my country customs officer noticed it. i did not ask to do a customs fraud

anyways im trying to work with the seller and i will inform how we ended

Pedroalva 01-27-2020 05:21 PM

Re: who is it responsibility if the parcel was inspected by country customs and is no
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by agent006140 (Post 1064912)
I wonder how does Pedro manage to last that long as an etailor ??????????
Good suggestion,you cant get it from Russian customs,but you can get it from the carrier,just dont tell them it is the customs which did the damage.
Who is the carrier?
There was a time neither Fed Exp or UPS will accept packages,just documents to Russia and US insurance company would only insure a shipment in transit,once it landed in Russia,insurance coverage ceases.
Is it DHL?

What you mean etailor?
you can get it from whoever has not been the seller
but of course if you want sell online on a platform must stay at their rules good or bad

Pedroalva 01-27-2020 05:23 PM

Re: who is it responsibility if the parcel was inspected by country customs and is no
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JamesNorth101 (Post 1064886)
While its not directly the sellers fault it is down to the seller to offer a refund or a replacement and then see to claim the cost back from the courier

This is the rule for selling on amz and eby

Pedroalva 01-27-2020 05:33 PM

Re: who is it responsibility if the parcel was inspected by country customs and is no
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tinsoldier (Post 1064882)
wrong, virtually everyone knows, even my 5 year old granddaughter, that it is the sellers responsibility to ensure goods arrive in an undamaged state.
If the carrier or customs damages it then the seller needs to deal with it and refund the buyer either partially or in full if they insist upon return.

This is why so many sellers fail, if anything goes wrong they simply try to absolve themselves of any responsibility or blame. Fortunately ebay policy keep these poor seller on their toes.

It is very easy to follow the eBy policy just do copy and paste and everything will be right

cefojem702 01-29-2020 10:52 AM

Re: who is it responsibility if the parcel was inspected by country customs and is no
 
heres the end of the story
the seller (big shop on ebay) decided to refund me in full with no return because he admitted it was his employee's fault
thanks for help everyone!

agent006140 01-29-2020 11:12 AM

Re: who is it responsibility if the parcel was inspected by country customs and is no
 
wow,a free AAPL watch?

james13v 01-29-2020 11:42 AM

Re: who is it responsibility if the parcel was inspected by country customs and is no
 
Umm, it was his employees fault, that the customs official damaged the box? How?

cefojem702 01-29-2020 12:04 PM

Re: who is it responsibility if the parcel was inspected by country customs and is no
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by james13v (Post 1065382)
Umm, it was his employees fault, that the customs official damaged the box? How?

https://www.aspkin.com/forums/1064972-post25.html

agent006140 01-29-2020 12:22 PM

Re: who is it responsibility if the parcel was inspected by country customs and is no
 
Someone once said shipping to Russia and throwing it into the trash can gets the same results!
The seller underdeclared the item,he is trying to help you avoid customs duty and possible theft.
USPS priority has $200 insurance included,no private online insurer I know will insure any shipment to Russia

Pedroalva 01-29-2020 08:25 PM

Re: who is it responsibility if the parcel was inspected by country customs and is no
 
Alright they declared less but also the duty custom has got heavy hands


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