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Impossible Launching Stealths These Days?
 

I have read some threads here of people saying there new accounts are now always getting banned.

Is this the case for everyone or are they doing something wrong?

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I don’t want to say too much in case eBay is reading but it’s definitely not impossible, just take things slowly and you’ll be fine.

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They are doing something wrong

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Thanks guys (Y)

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I am not able to get them suspended then reinstated
they just get suspended forever or they dont get suspended and than get suspended some time after
the question itself is wrong, there are litreally thousands accounts getting created everyday, ebay doesn't just go and ban all of them. There is an limit on what ebay can gather on you, it is just that it is quite diffcult to ⊗⊗⊗⊗ all the info.

Ebay started using fingerprint detections, so you in theory can't create 2 accounts on the same PC even if you change ip, as the canvas fingerprint and webgl fingerprint and audio fingerprint will stay the same. In pratice, people are still able to create many accounts on the same fingerprint.

So its weird, its like you can find the optimal solution for stealths, and after a week it does not work anymore. You try to spoof litreally everything, and still you get banned.

Get a fresh, clean proxy from 911 or vip72, use it on a new user profile, and create the accounts as legit as possible. List first item as 1 quantity and low risk, wait 3 months, then keep listing.

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Ebay now require fingerprints??? WOW just WOW!!!

From what you just said its sound very hard to make it a success these days!

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You might want to Google "browser fingerprinting". :doh:

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i made accounts to boost my watchers last years. just accounts with name/email/pw (no address and so on).

those accs are 1 year old now. when i create a seller acc and list something it goes life without problems.

On fresh accs when i list they get banned aftr 1 day.

1 month ago i created a ebay seller acc and did not use it at all (no browsing for cookies nothing). after listing an item it went life.


i also seen accounts which were created less than 5 days ago with active listings.


I think it is about activity and age. a lot activity such as browsing allows to list if the acc is only 5 days old. otherwise you need to wait few month

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hahaha silly me!

So basically use different browsers?

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Thanks for taking the time to post this excellent helpful info.

I feel a lot better about this now.

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:pound::pound:

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While there are people who have success listing right away, I am a fan of the longterm method of browsing and bidding before jumping into sales

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I have created 1-2 accounts everyday since from this month. Then I realized I have to create more for backups. So from the day before yesterday, I have created 20 accounts. Once created, the second login and browse after 2-5days and wait another 2-5 days list the first item until action ends. Then planning 10-30 days around login again (make sure you can login 1 time at least after that period). Every account goes well by the moment.

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They suspend all or most UK new accounts now untill you contact them with info, like what you going to sell, how you are going to pay, whats the shipping time, etc

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I have always used a different browser for each ebay account
The latest Firefox browser protects you against fingerprinting by blocking third-party requests

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Firefox is always a gem of a browser

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Just made 2 accounts for a friend 2 weeks ago. Same method:

dedicated windows user acc
residential IP
Firefox browser
No selling vero

so far everything is fine still.

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were did you buy your account from?

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since 9/18 my account are all suspended.
i change the ip from ipburger to mobile IP,it does not work
so bad

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Does it have to be a residential IP? I thought IPburger dedicated data center IP was good enough?

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When you create the accounts, it's much better to use residential IP.
Then a month later you can switch to the fresh and dedicated VPN for each account.

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What's your recommendation for getting cheap residential IP's for account creation? All I have is servers with data center IP's.

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Are they selling on the account? How many listings?

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The real problem is mc011 if you start selling a lot, they hammer you.

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Get multiple accounts and keep sales real low on each.

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Can you give example numbers please. Amount of accounts, number of listings / sales and monetary value of sales etc.

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Depends on what kind of business model you have. For me I'm able to have less than 800 dollars in sales a month on each account. I also don't list any risky categories. In US as long as paypal doesn't think you will go over 20k or 200 transactions in a year they might not block the account. I don't know how things are going in the UK though.

My goal right now is to expand my number of accounts. I'm going to be screwed when managed payments is forced on all accounts because then I have no means of protecting my business. I just got an account suspended that I had for 3 years for some bogus policy violation that ebay would not share with me when I asked. They just deleted all my listings and said I was suspended.

Sometimes people have had this experience with ebay and their suspensions they put on people sometimes come with no reason or merit. That's why I hate how some people on this forum are so excited for managed payments with all accounts. That just means ebay owns you by the balls and knows all your accounts.

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Well, you have to figure this one out yourself.

But the basic rule is sell only very few items, get feedback, get the money released, then sell more the next week.

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Same with canadian

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Anyone that's in the classifieds will be legit. Don't accept offers from messages of new users etc

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Mc113ssssss

Trying with residential ips now

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hmm I did hear from a guy on youtube who said and I don't know if this is true, that you could create ebay accounts in real easy countries with their IP's and then just put the shipping dispatch address in your country. I heard this is what Chinese ebayers do so they can sell in the US. I don't know if that's true but maybe try it

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First of all, lemme say that I'm not at all an expert in creating stealth for eBay or Paypal, but mastered stealth for other sensitive products (Google related).

Shouting out loud some professional words such as "audio fingerprint" is nice, but do you know what those are exactly?

Most people in the world have the same audio fingerprint, because it's based on hardware, and most people have the same amount of audio devices linked to their computer.

I'm going to give the same example I already gave on another forum concerning stealth profiles : let's say you have a gigantic pile of white rice, and you have a brown rice grain in it. Which one will be the easiest to uniquely identify? Well, the brown rice of course.

It goes the same way with fingerprints. If you try your best to make your profile look really unique, you might just be way more suspicious than thousands of normal users not spoofing their fingerprints.

WebGL is tied to your graphics card, and I doubt you simulating using an old graphics card to get a new hash won't make you more suspicious. Same goes with Canvas as it's tied to your hardware. (I think more people use a GTX 1080 or new RTX compared to old models graphics card that less and less people use).

tl;dr: It's not because some websites claim in bold titles that companies are able to track you using those fancy names metrics that they are indeed able to. The wikipedia article about Canvas Fingerprinting clearly states that this fingerprint by itself isn't enough to uniquely identify a user. Sometimes, the best way to indeed hide from others is just to blend in the mass. You really think that eBay or Paypal will start banning hundreds of thousands of users because they have the same fingerprints solely because they use Chrome on MacOS (I say MacOS here because hardwares are really similar), or use Safari on iPhone?

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Right on - that's where the bots kind of kick in for automatic suspension though

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Followed this on my stealths and I'm getting sound sleep.

1. Get sale
2. Deliver item
3. Get feedback
4. Withdraw money
5. Repeat.

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it comes and goes. use all protective measures, treat ebay like a sex worker. Protect yourself from getting @@@@ by them.

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The only 100% safe eBay is no eBay...

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Well, a lot more people would get suspended I guess.
I think in you guys case, main things must be something about maybe building previous activity on account + high qual IP for sure.

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You got experience with them? =P

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Hmmm... personally I dont bother with warming up accounts. The most i warm up accounts is for 24 hours. Usually I list 2 listings with 15 quantity each per listing after 12 hours.
Has been going strong since and even now