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Managed payments charges you the full FVF on CUSTOMS FEES paid by buyer.
 

Man, they claimed managed payments would make things cheaper than using paypal. BULL****. paying 12.5% fvf on the customs fees a buyer pays, is insane. I don't even understand how that's legal.

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Didn't know they did that.
That IS insane and I agree with you - theres no way that can be legal.
How on earth can they justify charging the seller FVF on an amount that is charged as a tax by the government?
That makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.
Are you SURE that is the case?

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100%. They say so on the site. FVF on the TOTAL amount paid by buyer. Only exception is for more expensive shipping, if you offer cheaper domestic. And even then, I had to fight with them today because I was charged on over night shipping, even tho their site clearly says that shouldn't happen.

As far as FVF on tax. I just thought it was only for US sales tax. That was bad enough. But it's also for countries that charge VAT. Which is WAY more than sales tax. They were claiming it's cheaper because it would cost more if they had to do is separate. Or that paypal cost more to do it. I don't even think paypal charged for the sales tax taken out. But even if they did, it's just 3%, not this ****en 12.5% theft they are doing.

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From the site.

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The idea was, that since ebay is doing the money collecting, they need to get their processing fee cut. Because money is money. But on what planet does that justify them charging the ENTIRE 12.5% fvf on the taxes? How are they doing 500% more work than paypal, with their 2.5% transaction fees?

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Were they charging their FVF before MP though? i.e. 10% was charged as FVF before they switched to MP? cause in that case nothing changed.
Sucks either way and smells highly fishy... class action lawsuit coming soon? How can they charge the seller for taxes??? realy is crazy...

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Holy momma... that much??

you sure about this?

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Yup slokor is correct you have been paying in your monthly bill commision on taxes collected, so that makes them paid tax collectors unlike the sellers who are unpaid tax collectors.

I am currently moving my business to Walmart, 8% fees on what I sell although paid every 2 weeks and also etsy which is only 10% paid weekly.

Amazon and eBay are screwing the sellers now big time, wait and watch Walmart they have their eye n the crown and with only charging half the sellers fees they will get there. Plus the added bonus of only US sellers at present.

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You don't appear to understand VAT, nothing has changed for EU sellers.

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are you using Ebay GSP?
If not,seller does not colllect customs fee?or has it changed?

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also Etsy does not charge 10% FVF,

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Paypal has been collecting their fee on sales tax ever since ebay started charging sales tax(which is phucked up). But yes, FVF on the tax is even MORE ridiculous!

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Paypal is a payment processor,it charges a fee on the payment processed,it does not make any difference what the payment is for,as it has to pay a fee for processing your payment.
But Ebay should not charge FVF on tax,customs duty.
why is the Ebay seller collecting customs duty,should the buyer pay when the item arrived?

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Thats EXACTLY what was going through my head. Thats how it used to be until not too long ago.

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They did not charge FVF on taxes before. As far as I can tell, this is a new thing. Let alone for customs fees, which can be 2-5x the price of sales tax we normally deal with, plus the 1.5% international processing fee. It's one thing to charge a transaction fee for handling the money, but we don't even touch taxes. At least with shipping, that's a service we provide. Still ****ty they charge FVF on it, but more understanble.

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There are some countries that require ebay to collect those fees themselves. Australia and New Zealand come to mind. The shipping labels even have a code attached to them corresponding with that.

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You don't appear to understand my post. Do tell me what I don't understand exactly.

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Are they also charging the FVF on sales tax right now, on MP?

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Yes. FVF are charged for the FULL amount paid by the buyer. Only exception is if the buyer chooses a more expensive shipping option, if you have cheaper ones available. It will go off the cheapest.

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Well that's just bullshiit. I was pissed when I realized PP was including it in their fee calculations, but now with ebay hitting it with 4-5x that amount.... something needs to be said/done about this. If you are right...

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I mean... I can kinda get over it, if they include it in the processing fee. Like PP does. But the FVF? Phuck that shiit.

Most my items are around the 300ish dollar range. 7% sales tax is $21. 10% FVF of $21 is $2.10...

I will not be happy giving them an additional $2 of my profit per transaction! :mad:

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Some states have almost 10% sales tax. so that's $3 extra. Trust me, I AM right. You can see the fine print on ebays own website. I copied it directly from their site.

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Well damnit... I was hoping you were wrong! I'm not selling with MP yet, so haven't witnessed.

Re: Managed payments charges you the full FVF on CUSTOMS FEES paid by buyer.
 

yeah lol well I was also hoping I was wrong.

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Australia,if buyer bought under $500? has to pay customs duty,yes,Etsy and Ebay will collect them and remit to Aussie givernemnt,same like to our states,but shouldnot charge FVF,may be you can point out to them

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They don't care. It's a tax, and they charge FVF on the purchase price, which includes taxes.

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You said ' I just thought it was only for US sales tax. That was bad enough. But it's also for countries that charge VAT. Which is WAY more than sales tax'.

EU sellers have always paid fees on VAT because we can't advertise ex-VAT prices. Even private sellers unloading their junk are effectively VAT inclusive prices as are non-VAT registered business sellers. It is nothing new nor a scam by ebay, that's why I said you do not understand VAT.

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LOLOL. I understand vat just fine. We never paid fees for buyers having to pay vat. How is this a hard concept for you to understand? I'm sorry you live in the EU, but that's not how America has ever worked. We have our fair share of bureaucracy and government meddling in business, but the EU goes above and beyond. And I do NOT want to pay higher costs, because your idiotic governments are money hungry.


By the way. How is it that I can sell on ebay uk, and not advertise with vat cost included. HMM???


The other completely stupid thing, is how sellers have to refund buyers SHIPPING costs for returns, when the buyer was an idiot and bought the wrong thing.

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For the same reason as I can sell on .com and not pay sales tax. I thought you understood VAT. :p

You are wrongly confusing how sales tax is treated in the US to how VAT is in the EU. I repeat, ebay have not introduced additional fees via Managed payments on VAT as you implied.

With regards to refunding outgoing shipping costs (not return costs) for change of mind purchases that is merely ebay enforcing EU law. It might seem stupid to you but it's not ebays doing whatever you might think.

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If you're selling on .com, to a US buyer, then the buyer is paying sales tax. WTF are you talking about.

And yes, ebay has introduced additional fees via managed payments on vat. I didn't imply ****. I stated it categorically. I NEVER paid fvf on VAT paid by my buyers, until managed payments came along, and now I am. How is this so freaken hard for you to understand? I mean, jesus guy.

And yeah, it IS ebay's doing. They don't have to charge me 12.5% on the vat. It's absurd that they charge it on sales tax, or even on shipping cost.Charging a transaction fee, makes sense. But you can't ****en charge a fvf on money the seller isn't even touching. The fact that you're defending this practice, is beyond me.

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I repeat, no they haven't.

Show me one, just one, complaint on any of the EU ebay forums to confirm they're now charging fees on VAT under Managed Payments where they didn't under their old structure.

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I noticed the same thing today, ebay charges commission on sales tax which they collect it away from our pockets. My question is, is this legal in US? According to the Marketplace Facilitator Act - is it illegal to charge FVF on sales tax - its NOT part of the sale - its simply a tax FROM THE BUYER to the sate the seller is in.

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is it really FVF fee or the merchant account fee.like PAYPAL will charge 2.9 %?(2.9% of total payment which includes sales tax )

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I'm getting off of eBay shortly anyways, eBay is turning into a crap show. Time to move on for me I guess. Going to make my $$$ and move onto my other goals

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I mean, it's ok if they charge commission (FVF) on the sales tax as well, but in this case, the commission we need to pay for them is much higher than PayPal: 2.9% for PayPal on total value, but 12.35% for ebay.

Ebay always asks seller to describe accurate for the item we sell on the listing, but why they can not do it by themselves? On the invitation letter they tried to sell to seller, if we use managed payment, we can pay less than how we pay to PayPal - but which is not, because they didn't mention this sales tax is also will be charged 12.35% but on PayPal it's only 2.9%.

Isn't that a cheating? What's the difference than a ebay seller try to sell a product which is totally doesn't match his description?

Double standard. Feel so sick.

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someone should point out to ebay to change the way they charge,

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Is this just in the USA or would they do the same in the UK ?

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as I had mentioned, it's the full FVF. Not the processing fee.

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I'd assume they would do the same thing there, yes. But obviously your taxes would be different. Results may vary. Is managed payments in the UK yet?

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as I said, it gets even worse when you sell to places like Australia, because they charge VAT, which is WAY more than US sales tax.

Some people will pay less on managed payments tho. And some people will pay more. And no, none of it is clear or understandable. Just how ebay likes it.