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fernendo 05-26-2022 07:30 AM

What's low risk? Book / Garden tools
 
I was always told that books are very low risk. Someone else said no book aren't low risk garden tools are low risk.

What is your opinion on which items are the lowest risk?

ilcarletto 05-26-2022 07:44 AM

Re: What's low risk? Book / Garden tools
 
it depends on the books...

Stationery is generally low risk items

Hank 05-26-2022 08:02 AM

Re: What's low risk? Book / Garden tools
 
I don't buy into this 'low risk', 'high risk' argument. I've never warmed up and account with the so-called low risk items...because I've created my (business) accounts correctly and can answer any question ebay ask and provide all documentation.

How many threads have we seen with 'but I only listed a book and they've suspended me'? It's nothing to do with the book.

Lets be honest, who creates and account and lists a book only fit for the bin?

If I was programming the ebay bot that would be a red flag to me. Just sayin' :)

fernendo 05-26-2022 09:10 AM

Re: What's low risk? Book / Garden tools
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hank (Post 1193145)
I don't buy into this 'low risk', 'high risk' argument. I've never warmed up and account with the so-called low risk items...because I've created my (business) accounts correctly and can answer any question ebay ask and provide all documentation.

How many threads have we seen with 'but I only listed a book and they've suspended me'? It's nothing to do with the book.

Lets be honest, who creates and account and lists a book only fit for the bin?

If I was programming the ebay bot that would be a red flag to me. Just sayin' :)

Depends how you look at it I guess. A normal user might want to learn how ebay works with a low value item such as a book or 2 and verify they actually get paid and it all works before listing their $1500 iphone or $3000 Mac Book only to find out they can't get their money or some other bs

fernendo 05-26-2022 09:11 AM

Re: What's low risk? Book / Garden tools
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ilcarletto (Post 1193143)
it depends on the books...

Stationery is generally low risk items

Is there something low risk used I can get on a site such as amazon, listing it at break even / a loss in order to warm up account?

Than I can use Amazon or similar site to fulfill the order. (I'm not in USA so can't fulfill them myself)

Hank 05-26-2022 10:10 AM

Re: What's low risk? Book / Garden tools
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by fernendo (Post 1193160)
Is there something low risk used I can get on a site such as amazon, listing it at break even / a loss in order to warm up account?

Than I can use Amazon or similar site to fulfill the order. (I'm not in USA so can't fulfill them myself)

You said on the other account you 'think' you've created a private account.

I don't think dropshipping new goods from Amazon is a good way to warm up an account, not even a business one.

It's got permanent suspension written all over it.

Roy3805 05-26-2022 11:57 AM

Re: What's low risk? Book / Garden tools
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hank (Post 1193145)
I don't buy into this 'low risk', 'high risk' argument. I've never warmed up and account with the so-called low risk items...because I've created my (business) accounts correctly and can answer any question ebay ask and provide all documentation.

How many threads have we seen with 'but I only listed a book and they've suspended me'? It's nothing to do with the book.

Lets be honest, who creates and account and lists a book only fit for the bin?

If I was programming the ebay bot that would be a red flag to me. Just sayin' :)

You got a good point, most average people go to eBay to sell a risky item. No average person would go to eBay and sell a low risk book. Unless it costs a lot and seems to have value.

Before I got suspended my first listing was a $500 gaming monitor, sold it with no issues. My second and third items were old iPhones. Sold those also with no issues.

The first listing should be a low risk item is just a myth

Hank 05-26-2022 12:06 PM

Re: What's low risk? Book / Garden tools
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by fernendo (Post 1193158)
Depends how you look at it I guess. A normal user might want to learn how ebay works with a low value item such as a book or 2 and verify they actually get paid and it all works before listing their $1500 iphone or $3000 Mac Book only to find out they can't get their money or some other bs

You need to look at it how ebay do. That's the whole point.

Does regular joe ask the questions you've raised - of course they don't. They want to sell their macbook and trust ebay to deliver. It's what they've built and empire upon and how they make their money. If you're legit you have nothing to worry about. It never enters regular joe's head that he will be hit with a sanction or, as you put it, 'some other bs'.

fernendo 05-27-2022 03:05 AM

Re: What's low risk? Book / Garden tools
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hank (Post 1193171)
You said on the other account you 'think' you've created a private account.

I don't think dropshipping new goods from Amazon is a good way to warm up an account, not even a business one.

It's got permanent suspension written all over it.

I'm 99% sure it's a private account.

I wouldn't be Dropshipping new goods it would be used books from private sellers on Amazon just like the kind of books you might have laying around the house.

But if you think that's a bad idea please let me know what kind of items you think would be good for me to list to warm up the account?

If necessary I could even dropship other ebay sellers using a different ebay account in order to fulfill the orders.

fernendo 05-27-2022 03:07 AM

Re: What's low risk? Book / Garden tools
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hank (Post 1193189)
You need to look at it how ebay do. That's the whole point.

Does regular joe ask the questions you've raised - of course they don't. They want to sell their macbook and trust ebay to deliver. It's what they've built and empire upon and how they make their money. If you're legit you have nothing to worry about. It never enters regular joe's head that he will be hit with a sanction or, as you put it, 'some other bs'.

Maybe I'm different to the average person then because I always like to try a low value transaction before a large transaction whether it be a crypto transfer, selling on ebay, transferring money to a bank account etc.

If you had $10,000 dollars to transfer to another bank account would you do it all at once or send $1 first as a test to check all is good before sending the rest? (assuming the transfer has no fees)

fernendo 05-27-2022 03:12 AM

Re: What's low risk? Book / Garden tools
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Roy3805 (Post 1193185)
You got a good point, most average people go to eBay to sell a risky item. No average person would go to eBay and sell a low risk book. Unless it costs a lot and seems to have value.

Before I got suspended my first listing was a $500 gaming monitor, sold it with no issues. My second and third items were old iPhones. Sold those also with no issues.

The first listing should be a low risk item is just a myth

Thanks for your input I'm stuck going round in circles here because 1 person advises something then someone else jumps in and says the opposite.

Like for example the aspkin approved seller I purchased from on here advised me to use 911.re so I did but when I mentioned that on here people got almost furious and said that was stupid and said ignore the advise of the aspkin approved seller and do what we say instead.

Ebayorbust 05-27-2022 03:36 AM

Re: What's low risk? Book / Garden tools
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by fernendo (Post 1193264)
Thanks for your input I'm stuck going round in circles here because 1 person advises something then someone else jumps in and says the opposite.

Like for example the aspkin approved seller I purchased from on here advised me to use 911.re so I did but when I mentioned that on here people got almost furious and said that was stupid and said ignore the advise of the aspkin approved seller and do what we say instead.

It's all about affiliate commission.......

The account seller telling you to use 911 will be on a nice big slice of commission. Similarly the folk telling you to use ipburger are doing the same.

Hank 05-27-2022 03:36 AM

Re: What's low risk? Book / Garden tools
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by fernendo (Post 1193264)
Like for example the aspkin approved seller I purchased from on here advised me to use 911.re

You told us you'd created the account using real details. :rolleyes:

It wont go down well with the account sellers here but IMO the days of easy-come-easy-go stealth accounts is dead.

So assuming you can keep your dropshipping private seller stealth account which plans on becoming a software selling business alive, what do you do when you hit the $600 sales limit and you need to complete Form 1099-K?

fernendo 05-27-2022 03:37 AM

Re: What's low risk? Book / Garden tools
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Roy3805 (Post 1193185)
You got a good point, most average people go to eBay to sell a risky item. No average person would go to eBay and sell a low risk book. Unless it costs a lot and seems to have value.

Before I got suspended my first listing was a $500 gaming monitor, sold it with no issues. My second and third items were old iPhones. Sold those also with no issues.

The first listing should be a low risk item is just a myth

You make an interesting point here. Kinda weird and dumb to list cheap items like books and stationary that will lose your money after fees and postage what kind of normal user does that.

I'm really tempted to say **** it and list 1 of the items I want to sell from the start. It's a software product sent on DVD but it's a "homemade" unbranded software product so not crazy risky like branded items such as Microsoft Office, Autocad etc etc. I know it might go wrong and people here will say "I told you so" but who knows it might work.

I know some people here might say I can never ever successfully sell this kind of software but I've done it on another account for about 7 years so I know it is possible if done right.

rsot 05-27-2022 03:53 AM

Re: What's low risk? Book / Garden tools
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by fernendo (Post 1193268)
You make an interesting point here. Kinda weird and dumb to list cheap items like books and stationary that will lose your money after fees and postage what kind of normal user does that.

I'm really tempted to say **** it and list 1 of the items I want to sell from the start. It's a software product sent on DVD but it's a "homemade" unbranded software product so not crazy risky like branded items such as Microsoft Office, Autocad etc etc. I know it might go wrong and people here will say "I told you so" but who knows it might work.

I know some people here might say I can never ever successfully sell this kind of software but I've done it on another account for about 7 years so I know it is possible if done right.

Only one way to know for sure and bite the bullet...

fernendo 05-27-2022 04:01 AM

Re: What's low risk? Book / Garden tools
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ebayorbust (Post 1193266)
It's all about affiliate commission.......

The account seller telling you to use 911 will be on a nice big slice of commission. Similarly the folk telling you to use ipburger are doing the same.

Interesting point of view. To be fair the account seller didn't give an affiliate link to 911.re so I don't think he had any way of getting commission.

A lot of 911.re ips do have a high fraud rating but you can keep changing until you find a low / 0 fraud rating. Although I don't know if you get penalised for historic ip use if they change from low fraud to high fraud.

Ebay could for example keep a list of the last 30 ips you used and constantly monitor their fraud rating and penalise you for previous ips that were low fraud when you used them but shot up after.

fernendo 05-27-2022 04:28 AM

Re: What's low risk? Book / Garden tools
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hank (Post 1193267)
You told us you'd created the account using real details. :rolleyes:

Yes real details were used I was talking about a previous account I purchased. This USA account is 100% real details I promise

It wont go down well with the account sellers here but IMO the days of easy-come-easy-go stealth accounts is dead.

Agreed the question for me is is it still worth doing at all

So assuming you can keep your dropshipping private seller stealth account which plans on becoming a software selling business alive, what do you do when you hit the $600 sales limit and you need to complete Form 1099-K?

I will cross that bridge when I come to it. At the moment it sounds like it will take a miracle to even reach that level. My friend could fill out the form and I could give him money to cover taxes

I have answered above in bold italics.

fernendo 05-27-2022 04:29 AM

Re: What's low risk? Book / Garden tools
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rsot (Post 1193273)
Only one way to know for sure and bite the bullet...

The problem is on my existing account I already listed a book so will have to tell them I am listing used items around the house and immediately switch to software which is risky.

fernendo 05-27-2022 04:32 AM

Re: What's low risk? Book / Garden tools
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Roy3805 (Post 1193185)
You got a good point, most average people go to eBay to sell a risky item. No average person would go to eBay and sell a low risk book. Unless it costs a lot and seems to have value.

Before I got suspended my first listing was a $500 gaming monitor, sold it with no issues. My second and third items were old iPhones. Sold those also with no issues.

The first listing should be a low risk item is just a myth

I think my plan is list 1 of my "lowest risk" software products with a quantity of 1. Then when it sells add another quantity of 1. So I slowly build up sales on 1 product. Then add more products at a later date.

rsot 05-27-2022 07:05 AM

Re: What's low risk? Book / Garden tools
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by fernendo (Post 1193292)
I think my plan is list 1 of my "lowest risk" software products with a quantity of 1. Then when it sells add another quantity of 1. So I slowly build up sales on 1 product. Then add more products at a later date.

What kind of software?

Hank 05-27-2022 07:17 AM

Re: What's low risk? Book / Garden tools
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rsot (Post 1193306)
What kind of software?

From post 14....

It's a software product sent on DVD but it's a "homemade" unbranded software product so not crazy risky like branded items such as Microsoft Office, Autocad etc etc.

Not that it matters, it's highly unlikely OP owns it and even if its one of the low grade freeware offerings we see on ebay (why do folk buy it???) will surely attract unwanted attention as all software does.

I wonder if the DVD's or USB sticks will be distributed 'locally' or shipped from abroad?

Roy3805 05-27-2022 09:07 AM

Re: What's low risk? Book / Garden tools
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by fernendo (Post 1193264)
Thanks for your input I'm stuck going round in circles here because 1 person advises something then someone else jumps in and says the opposite.

Like for example the aspkin approved seller I purchased from on here advised me to use 911.re so I did but when I mentioned that on here people got almost furious and said that was stupid and said ignore the advise of the aspkin approved seller and do what we say instead.

Everyone is having different experiences with eBay, different strokes for different folks

This account was created on 3/1/22 and seller created 3/30/22

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