Would account from years ago before MP still link?

sam999 · #1 08-04-2022

Fairly straight forward question, I have an account I haven't touched for at least 4 years - well before MP. It's an aged account so I'd like to make use of it now I'm selling on Ebay more.

Can I treat this account as a fresh account if I use IPBurger with it on a virtual machine etc, or is the opinion that it's still hard linked from when I would log into it on the same IP?

Thanks

**SaiJin** · #2 08-04-2022

what do you mean linked?

If the account isn't linked to other accounts in your household and it's not suspended, you can just use this account. No need for a virtual machine either.

If it's IP you're worried about, don't

sam999 · #3 08-04-2022

Yes I mean linked by IP / cookies / browser session in the past from when I have logged into each account from the same PC and browser in short succession.

Neither are currently suspended. I want each account to be completely stealthed from one another in case one of them gets suspended in future. But I don't know if this is already now impossible due to past linking?

Thanks

**SaiJin** · #4 08-04-2022

You'll be fine! Go for it.

sam999 · #5 08-04-2022

Thanks.

I'm confused why this is fine - I assume it's due to the the length of time and that it was before MP? I though that logging into two accounts on the same machine and IP was a guaranteed way to link accounts permanently? It wasn't just a one off occasion either.

**SaiJin** · #6 08-05-2022

huh? eBay right?.... no... I use 1 machine to run over 30 active accounts .....

Did you even read the stealth guide?

rsot · #7 08-05-2022

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Originally Posted by sam999

Fairly straight forward question, I have an account I haven't touched for at least 4 years - well before MP. It's an aged account so I'd like to make use of it now I'm selling on Ebay more.

If you haven't been using it, it would not be considered as "aged" technicially - could be considered as "new" once activity starts

sam999 · #8 08-05-2022

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Originally Posted by SaiJin

huh? eBay right?.... no... I use 1 machine to run over 30 active accounts .....

Did you even read the stealth guide?

Yes eBay, 30 stealth accounts? I've been on this forum on and off for years and paid particular attention to recommended multi-account tips about using a spare laptop / virtual machine / portable browser for stealth, along side a separate IP.
Aspkin specifically offers IPBurger for this purpose of avoiding linkage.
But you're talking like something has recently changed regarding this safe system of operating?

sam999 · #9 08-08-2022

Could anyone advise? Cheers

**SaiJin** · #10 08-08-2022

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Originally Posted by sam999

Yes eBay, 30 stealth accounts? I've been on this forum on and off for years and paid particular attention to recommended multi-account tips about using a spare laptop / virtual machine / portable browser for stealth, along side a separate IP.
Aspkin specifically offers IPBurger for this purpose of avoiding linkage.
But you're talking like something has recently changed regarding this safe system of operating?

Yes , I can see you've been here a while.

I was just confused because you mentioned linking by using the same machine which is never the case with eBay. IP does play a factor yes, but not machine if you do it properly.

sam999 · #11 08-08-2022

Right, okay so I'm still unclear on my original question.

Years ago both accounts were linked though same IP, same browser, etc - I wasn't trying to stealth. So does this mean that I can never use the second dormant account which hasn't been touched for the last 5 years as a stealth account, due to historic linking?

Thanks

**SaiJin** · #12 08-08-2022

the key here is "years" ago.

and it hasn't been active right? PLus you haven't linked them both recently at all?

So kinda treat that dormant one as a new account and make sure you got nothing at all linking to the original account.

Either way... you got nothing to lose at this point.

sam999 · #13 08-08-2022

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Originally Posted by SaiJin

the key here is "years" ago.

and it hasn't been active right? PLus you haven't linked them both recently at all?
No and no, not for around 5 years now.

So kinda treat that dormant one as a new account and make sure you got nothing at all linking to the original account.
Nothing except shared IP, browser etc from the past..

Either way... you got nothing to lose at this point.

The reason I'm so keen to know is because I have lots of time and energy to lose IF the historic link has been made. I have no other accounts at the moment, I wanted to spend time building this dormant account into a stealth back up with decent fb score in case anything happened to my main account.
If the accounts are historically linked it defeats the purpose, should either being banned mean the other is automatically taken out through historic linking.

Hank · #14 08-09-2022

If a link exists, it exists, there's nothing you can do about it nor will you ever know the extent of the link.

Would I try and activate it whist the linked account was stable and active, not a chance I would keep it as a reserve if my other account went down.

Given the timescale you mention I'd be confident that it could be fired up when required which I guess is a bit of an oxymoron but it's just how I'd handle it.

That said, there's also a good chance it could be reactivated and the two could run without issue. I guess that's your call but one thing is for sure, the accounts must never share any data, IP addresses, phones, banks etc etc etc.

sam999 · #15 08-09-2022

Thanks, I guess a better way is to ask would the experienced members here rely on it as a back up account if their main account went down, and they only had two accounts?
Or would they not trust it due to the linking from 5 years ago.

Hank · #16 08-10-2022

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Originally Posted by sam999

Thanks, I guess a better way is to ask would the experienced members here rely on it as a back up account if their main account went down, and they only had two accounts?
Or would they not trust it due to the linking from 5 years ago.

As I said, I would keep it as a dormant back up account. If your current active account goes down then you've absolutely nothing whatsoever to lose in trying...absolutely nothing.

But if you try and run them in parallel now then there is the chance they'd make an unwanted link and take them both down. How big is that link, nobody knows. But there a chance both would be compromised. The first option is risk free.

Do you need it for some reason or are you just curious?

sam999 · #17 08-10-2022

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Originally Posted by Hank

As I said, I would keep it as a dormant back up account. If your current active account goes down then you've absolutely nothing whatsoever to lose in trying...absolutely nothing.

But if you try and run them in parallel now then there is the chance they'd make an unwanted link and take them both down. How big is that link, nobody knows. But there a chance both would be compromised. The first option is risk free.

Do you need it for some reason or are you just curious?

I assume you mean running them in parallel but "stealthed", they might make the historic link, rather than just general parallel linking though a non stealth attempt?

I'm not just curious, I'm not currently working and need to build a reliable back up / share of my main account to a second one. I can't afford for my sales to get cut over night should something untoward happen to my main account.

Hank · #18 08-11-2022

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Originally Posted by sam999

I assume you mean running them in parallel but "stealthed", they might make the historic link, rather than just general parallel linking though a non stealth attempt?

I'm not just curious, I'm not currently working and need to build a reliable back up / share of my main account to a second one. I can't afford for my sales to get cut over night should something untoward happen to my main account.

Yes, I'm assuming fully stealthed with only historic links.

I guess the decision is made then, just tread carefully.

rsot · #19 08-11-2022

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Originally Posted by sam999

I assume you mean running them in parallel but "stealthed", they might make the historic link, rather than just general parallel linking though a non stealth attempt?

I'm not just curious, I'm not currently working and need to build a reliable back up / share of my main account to a second one. I can't afford for my sales to get cut over night should something untoward happen to my main account.

Get more than one backup going

sam999 · #20 08-11-2022

Thanks for all the help