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Camaro2SS 04-18-2023 10:00 AM

Re: 9 Stealth Accounts in 3 Months, Lessons Learnt, Questions
 
I am a bit confused. These days anti fraud systems are very sophisticated. If I was to create 10 different eBay accounts with similar name variations, wouldn’t that indicate these accounts were created by the same person? Especially if all 10 accounts were created from the same country, same province (Ontario) and a similar subnet IP. For example I use Rogers mobile tethering, their IP usually starts with the same digits. For example 72.168.XXX.XXX

Also you said to have a different address that previously wasn’t suspended but if they are asking for your DL wouldn’t that be an issue if you provide them with DL with an address that doesn’t match with the address you entered during eBay registration?


Quote:

Originally Posted by LordoftheStealth (Post 1215260)
Use a variation of your name. Let’s say your name is John Doe, use Jon Doe. Don’t use a previously suspended address. Use a friends address or a relatives. Your DOB must match with your DL. After you create the account and warm it up for a few days. List a low risk item. After it sells, eBay .CA will request that you submit your DL. Don’t worry use your own even if it mismatches the name slightly. Make sure surname is a match. Then you’ll be fine. Scale up slowly. Don’t sell high risk items. Don’t partake in bad behaviours and you’ll be back just fine.


LordoftheStealth 04-18-2023 10:45 PM

Re: 9 Stealth Accounts in 3 Months, Lessons Learnt, Questions
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Camaro2SS (Post 1215284)
I am a bit confused. These days anti fraud systems are very sophisticated. If I was to create 10 different eBay accounts with similar name variations, wouldn’t that indicate these accounts were created by the same person? Especially if all 10 accounts were created from the same country, same province (Ontario) and a similar subnet IP. For example I use Rogers mobile tethering, their IP usually starts with the same digits. For example 72.168.XXX.XXX

Also you said to have a different address that previously wasn’t suspended but if they are asking for your DL wouldn’t that be an issue if you provide them with DL with an address that doesn’t match with the address you entered during eBay registration?


Space them out. Don’t create all 10 the same week. Do 2 a week over a month or so. Address on DL doesn’t really matter from my experience. So long you are using rotating residential IPs it also doesn’t matter.

From my experience with Canada, the problems you have highlighted will not stop you from starting new accounts. Most important thing is to use a legit and clean IP like residential IP from ipvurger and to go slow. Don’t violate policies.

Camaro2SS 04-18-2023 11:30 PM

Re: 9 Stealth Accounts in 3 Months, Lessons Learnt, Questions
 
I don’t see any good reason to use IPBurger when you can easily use your thether. I have over 100GB of monthly data with Rogers.

When it comes to name mistmatch. Would you keep your last name the same and your first name slightly mistmatched?

And last question. Do you browse before you list your first item ? I believed you did say to browse. Do I just browse to create cookies and search history on eBay for a few days before I list my first item ? Some people suggest to buy a few cheap items first before listing.


Quote:

Originally Posted by LordoftheStealth (Post 1215305)
Space them out. Don’t create all 10 the same week. Do 2 a week over a month or so. Address on DL doesn’t really matter from my experience. So long you are using rotating residential IPs it also doesn’t matter.

From my experience with Canada, the problems you have highlighted will not stop you from starting new accounts. Most important thing is to use a legit and clean IP like residential IP from ipvurger and to go slow. Don’t violate policies.


rsot 04-19-2023 05:36 AM

Re: 9 Stealth Accounts in 3 Months, Lessons Learnt, Questions
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Camaro2SS (Post 1215306)
I don’t see any good reason to use IPBurger when you can easily use your thether. I have over 100GB of monthly data with Rogers.

When it comes to name mistmatch. Would you keep your last name the same and your first name slightly mistmatched?

And last question. Do you browse before you list your first item ? I believed you did say to browse. Do I just browse to create cookies and search history on eBay for a few days before I list my first item ? Some people suggest to buy a few cheap items first before listing.


You can use tether - works well. I like to browse for few weeks before listing 1st item - my own approach

Camaro2SS 04-19-2023 05:46 AM

Re: 9 Stealth Accounts in 3 Months, Lessons Learnt, Questions
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rsot (Post 1215318)
You can use tether - works well. I like to browse for few weeks before listing 1st item - my own approach

I know I can use tether. That’s what I was saying. No point to use expensive service like IPBurger when you already have clean residential IP service through your mobile.

martyjump 04-24-2023 01:11 PM

Re: 9 Stealth Accounts in 3 Months, Lessons Learnt, Questions
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by LordoftheStealth (Post 1215260)
Use a variation of your name. Let’s say your name is John Doe, use Jon Doe. Don’t use a previously suspended address. Use a friends address or a relatives. Your DOB must match with your DL. After you create the account and warm it up for a few days. List a low risk item. After it sells, eBay .CA will request that you submit your DL. Don’t worry use your own even if it mismatches the name slightly. Make sure surname is a match. Then you’ll be fine. Scale up slowly. Don’t sell high risk items. Don’t partake in bad behaviours and you’ll be back just fine.

USA stealther here.

On a ID request does an address match matter? (All other details would except address)

rsot 04-25-2023 06:29 AM

Re: 9 Stealth Accounts in 3 Months, Lessons Learnt, Questions
 
ppl move so it shouldn't matter but that's my opinion

martyjump 04-25-2023 01:44 PM

Re: 9 Stealth Accounts in 3 Months, Lessons Learnt, Questions
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rsot (Post 1215679)
ppl move so it shouldn't matter but that's my opinion

Here in the states, we have been getting temp ID's (paper printouts) when we get a new photo ID... which would be easy to get creative with as its a black and white printout. If address does matter. (They mail the regular DL's a few weeks later here from the DMV)

kirkland 05-01-2023 09:47 AM

Re: 9 Stealth Accounts in 3 Months, Lessons Learnt, Questions
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by LordoftheStealth (Post 1214073)

d- IMPORTANT POINT TO NOTE, call back number (the number you use for eBay to call you back) is registered and saved and CAN LINK accounts (i.e. you use an unregistered number on eBay to receive calls on various accounts, these accounts are linked!!!!) - I was given various IDs by a customer service agent and asked if they are related to me and explained that I am using a mobile phone of a friend since mine is dead etc..)

Callback # meaning the overall # registered to your ebay account? Sometimes you can provide a temporary alternate callback # in ebay chat, Ive done this may times and never been linked. Which are you referring to?

SaiJin 05-01-2023 12:40 PM

Re: 9 Stealth Accounts in 3 Months, Lessons Learnt, Questions
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by martyjump (Post 1215646)
USA stealther here.

On a ID request does an address match matter? (All other details would except address)

Not really... it does help if it matches, but they just wanna see your name.

dano 05-01-2023 02:39 PM

Re: 9 Stealth Accounts in 3 Months, Lessons Learnt, Questions
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by LordoftheStealth (Post 1215305)
Space them out. Don’t create all 10 the same week. Do 2 a week over a month or so. Address on DL doesn’t really matter from my experience. So long you are using rotating residential IPs it also doesn’t matter.

From my experience with Canada, the problems you have highlighted will not stop you from starting new accounts. Most important thing is to use a legit and clean IP like residential IP from ipvurger and to go slow. Don’t violate policies.

why not all togheter? Are you able to imagine how many accounts are created every hours?
If your setup are correct you can go to create all in 1 hour..

rsot 05-02-2023 05:28 AM

Re: 9 Stealth Accounts in 3 Months, Lessons Learnt, Questions
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dano (Post 1216139)
why not all togheter? Are you able to imagine how many accounts are created every hours?
If your setup are correct you can go to create all in 1 hour..

That's correct - if stealth principles followed correctly

Camaro2SS 05-03-2023 06:02 AM

Re: 9 Stealth Accounts in 3 Months, Lessons Learnt, Questions
 
Because their anti fraud system will identify a similar pattern. Their system doesn’t have long term memory because it would men’s they would she to store a lot of data so the slower you work the less chance for their system to link.



Quote:

Originally Posted by dano (Post 1216139)
why not all togheter? Are you able to imagine how many accounts are created every hours?
If your setup are correct you can go to create all in 1 hour..


SammySquare 11-24-2023 08:38 PM

Re: 9 Stealth Accounts in 3 Months, Lessons Learnt, Questions
 
Great post, so I am on the same boat, creating these stealth accounts. I did not know that an AI bot is auto verifying the id and not checking the driver license address. That's great to hear.

So what I will say, from what I know so far, the most important thing to do is to make sure you start of with an absolutely CLEAN IP address, that hasnt been used before.

I stay away from IP burger, as I havnt had much luck. What I would recommend is you get a rogers business plan, and get static IPs from them, I am about to do this.

With 270$ you can get 50 static ips, but you do need a commercial address.


If you get a captcha during the initial account creation, abandon the setup, as the device is triggering a flag. Also sometimes, you may have a clean IP but the device is still triggering the captcha, change browsers, to mozzila, this is before you press create account, if ebay gives you a captcha, abandon ship.

rsot 11-25-2023 11:25 AM

Re: 9 Stealth Accounts in 3 Months, Lessons Learnt, Questions
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SammySquare (Post 1230286)
With 270$ you can get 50 static ips, but you do need a commercial address.

Per month? 50 - interesting

SammySquare 11-25-2023 09:10 PM

Re: 9 Stealth Accounts in 3 Months, Lessons Learnt, Questions
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rsot (Post 1230311)
Per month? 50 - interesting

Yep,need a biz location. I am currently in the process of acquiring one.

Camaro2SS 11-27-2023 05:14 AM

Re: 9 Stealth Accounts in 3 Months, Lessons Learnt, Questions
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SammySquare (Post 1230347)
Yep,need a biz location. I am currently in the process of acquiring one.


Haha I know who you are :)

rsot 11-27-2023 07:59 AM

Re: 9 Stealth Accounts in 3 Months, Lessons Learnt, Questions
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SammySquare (Post 1230347)
Yep,need a biz location. I am currently in the process of acquiring one.

Rock on :thumb:

SammySquare 11-27-2023 10:50 AM

Re: 9 Stealth Accounts in 3 Months, Lessons Learnt, Questions
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Camaro2SS (Post 1230479)
Haha I know who you are :)

Haha, from where mate.

Camaro2SS 11-27-2023 06:48 PM

Re: 9 Stealth Accounts in 3 Months, Lessons Learnt, Questions
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SammySquare (Post 1230520)
Haha, from where mate.

It's a secret LOL!

Blasko 12-09-2023 07:38 AM

Re: 9 Stealth Accounts in 3 Months, Lessons Learnt, Questions
 
I am interested about this:
g- SHIP FROM ADDRESS OF YOUR ITEMS

I am stealth newbie, I bought Ukraine Business eBay Stealth acc before few days. U mentioned that Registered address on eBay acc must match address of Item Location.

I want to know following:

Since I am not located in Ukraine (My location is Bosnia & Hercegovina) my Items are located in Bosnia & Hercegovina, but the address on the stealth acc is in Ukraine.

How can I sell then? Because it is clearly that my Items are located in Bosnia. What should I do?

Please someone help me.

Thanks in advance

DENDEN76 12-09-2023 09:10 AM

Re: 9 Stealth Accounts in 3 Months, Lessons Learnt, Questions
 
You can sell with any item location just make sure it's the correct location as the tracking numbers.


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