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murdered_by_ebay 04-01-2024 01:34 PM

Re: Letter from a company (Copyright infrigment)
 
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Originally Posted by Mr_Blue_Sky (Post 1238666)
It has been mentioned by both myself and OP that for copyright infringement claims in the UK and EU the loss or damage has to be quantified. Which part of that do you not understand?

there is nothing to understand as I am familiar with the german system , if there was one violation that can be verified it is sufficient to demand compensation , only size of compensation would be in question

it would not matter if listing was removed , in fact they usually remove listings first and take the matter to court later , sometimes many months later when the person in question can not even remember what was going on

murdered_by_ebay 04-01-2024 01:37 PM

Re: Letter from a company (Copyright infrigment)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr_Blue_Sky (Post 1238665)
So your Plan B is My Plan A - do nothing!

It does beg the question what your plan A is??? :pound:

FYI, if you new anything about this matter you would know it is a scam, there is no 'may or may not'. ;)

plan A can either be silence or denial , do not bull**** me , you do can not tell from the above text whether it is a scam as you do not know which items it was exactly and who exactly sent the letter on which grounds

it may be a scam but it may as well be someone who holds rights to parts of the item , stop misleading people here claiming things you know nothing about , if such a letter arrives by mail the worst case scenario must always be taken into account

Superboy23 04-01-2024 02:17 PM

Re: Letter from a company (Copyright infrigment)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by murdered_by_ebay (Post 1238675)
plan A can either be silence or denial , do not bull**** me , you do can not tell from the above text whether it is a scam as you do not know which items it was exactly and who exactly sent the letter on which grounds

it may be a scam but it may as well be someone who holds rights to parts of the item , stop misleading people here claiming things you know nothing about , if such a letter arrives by mail the worst case scenario must always be taken into account

friday i'll have a call with a lawyer expert in copyright that handled thousands of those causes, so we'll see, infact taking the worst scenario is what i'm doing

My intent in posting this matter was to discuss it Not to end my fears

And to make informed people who might make the same mistakes as me. so we'll not do the same twice

Superboy23 04-05-2024 10:00 AM

Re: Letter from a company (Copyright infrigment)
 
i had this conversation with this lawyer but he doesnt know nothing about ecom but just copyright on some social platform like ig and so on. 200 euro wasted

he said we'll send a letter for unfoundedness of damages if you want. But i said look if you said its me its so stupid isnt it? i can create an account with your name and sell illegal items, how can they prove its you? They need to go in a court and prove it. (Ebay never asked ID verification on my accounts)

He said "if they know who you are that means they have done some research and investigation".................................... ............ They just took my business details on ebay page

So i said to him dont send nothing and wait if they sue me..

murdered_by_ebay 04-05-2024 01:38 PM

Re: Letter from a company (Copyright infrigment)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Superboy23 (Post 1238914)
i had this conversation with this lawyer but he doesnt know nothing about ecom but just copyright on some social platform like ig and so on. 200 euro wasted

he said we'll send a letter for unfoundedness of damages if you want. But i said look if you said its me its so stupid isnt it? i can create an account with your name and sell illegal items, how can they prove its you? They need to go in a court and prove it. (Ebay never asked ID verification on my accounts)

He said "if they know who you are that means they have done some research and investigation".................................... ............ They just took my business details on ebay page

So i said to him dont send nothing and wait if they sue me..

lawyers are interested in getting money out of you , they will certainly not give you the same piece of advice I gave you because they want to get paid and it is better for them go the legal way with out of court negotiation and settlements or court proceedings

remove your name from ebay , from packets you send out and later if there should be further action against you deny everything

Superboy23 04-05-2024 02:47 PM

Re: Letter from a company (Copyright infrigment)
 
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Originally Posted by murdered_by_ebay (Post 1238932)
lawyers are interested in getting money out of you , they will certainly not give you the same piece of advice I gave you because they want to get paid and it is better for them go the legal way with out of court negotiation and settlements or court proceedings

remove your name from ebay , from packets you send out and later if there should be further action against you deny everything

yeah thats what i will do

thx bro

yobar 04-05-2024 09:39 PM

Re: Letter from a company (Copyright infrigment)
 
Just don't pay attention to the lawyers, you just want to get money. Maybe you are one of the thousands who receive those emails per year. I imagine that it is your country, it would not be something to fear, perhaps if you live in the United States that will cause problems.

OldTom 04-09-2024 05:25 PM

Re: Letter from a company (Copyright infrigment)
 
Lawyers are a shifty bunch aren't they. One lawyer taking money off you milking a baseless threat from another lawyer when they know fine well it ain't going anywhere.

I understand your concern, it comes as a shock and it is human nature to worry, but as others have said this is a well known scam and can be ignored.

rsot 04-14-2024 11:34 AM

Re: Letter from a company (Copyright infrigment)
 
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Originally Posted by agent006140 (Post 1239526)
once a friend of mine has some problem dealing with the US immigration and naturalisation personnel until she hired a lawyer to represent her,these guys shaped up right away.

logical example of efficacy

stealthymanager 04-17-2024 12:40 PM

Re: Letter from a company (Copyright infrigment)
 
Just chill out and dont do dumb stuff like paying them.
Relist the item and tell them to bite you.

agent006140 04-23-2024 09:36 AM

Re: Letter from a company (Copyright infrigment)
 
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Originally Posted by stealthymanager (Post 1239754)
Just chill out and dont do dumb stuff like paying them.
Relist the item and tell them to bite you.

I would not relist the item.

rsot 04-24-2024 10:11 AM

Re: Letter from a company (Copyright infrigment)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by stealthymanager (Post 1239754)
Just chill out and dont do dumb stuff like paying them.
Relist the item and tell them to bite you.

Relisting is not recommended

Mr_Blue_Sky 04-24-2024 11:12 AM

Re: Letter from a company (Copyright infrigment)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rsot (Post 1240290)
Relisting is not recommended

Whilst I agree that not relisting is the probably wisest thing to do it could be said that given the letter is just a snide attack to firstly get rid of a competitor though baseless claims and secondly generate an income for the dodgy lawyer then they could relist it and I bet nothing would ever come of it.

OP doesn't come across as the kind of person who will but some sellers, like me, wouldn't roll over for this money grabbing scam.

I got one about a decade ago, sent all the papers to the Law Society in the UK because they were not only comical but illegal and the scammers went away. I am still selling the wares today.

rsot 04-25-2024 08:11 AM

Re: Letter from a company (Copyright infrigment)
 
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Originally Posted by Mr_Blue_Sky (Post 1240305)
I got one about a decade ago, sent all the papers to the Law Society in the UK because they were not only comical but illegal and the scammers went away. I am still selling the wares today.

Nice work - but yes, in this case, OP might not be ready to deal with all this since he/she seems a bit new to the scene


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