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solefoodbk 04-28-2024 04:46 AM

Stealth is not dead
 
PSA: Stealth is not dead. I have seen this a lot since 2019, and as such this forum activity has declined significantly since I first joined over 10 years ago.

The definition of stealth to me was simply figuring out ways to get back on marketplaces, specifically eBay. I first tried to reuse my information, that obviously did not work. Then I tried different variations of my name, etc etc. Once I joined this forum I realized how to operate under different names and function on eBay. Now it’s under my real name but I’ve made 5+ accounts under the same name. Without understanding stealth practices that would be impossible.

Have applied this with Depop, Poshmark, Mercari etc.

Therefore the fundamentals learned on here still apply to long term success. I would say majority of people who get banned for any number of reasons take that as a final verdict. We’re all a minority who beat the system. Even with security having amplified to what it is, stealth still has prevailed in its purest sense, finding a way back on.

It’s worth a reminder…

Meester 04-28-2024 08:26 AM

Re: Stealth is not dead
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by solefoodbk (Post 1240532)
PSA: Stealth is not dead. I have seen this a lot since 2019, and as such this forum activity has declined significantly since I first joined over 10 years ago.

The definition of stealth to me was simply figuring out ways to get back on marketplaces, specifically eBay. I first tried to reuse my information, that obviously did not work. Then I tried different variations of my name, etc etc. Once I joined this forum I realized how to operate under different names and function on eBay. Now it’s under my real name but I’ve made 5+ accounts under the same name. Without understanding stealth practices that would be impossible.

Have applied this with Depop, Poshmark, Mercari etc.

Therefore the fundamentals learned on here still apply to long term success. I would say majority of people who get banned for any number of reasons take that as a final verdict. We’re all a minority who beat the system. Even with security having amplified to what it is, stealth still has prevailed in its purest sense, finding a way back on.

It’s worth a reminder…

Same name, and same other details?

agent006140 04-28-2024 08:32 AM

Re: Stealth is not dead
 
If you have a large family,you could use their ID,SSN,DL,

yobar 04-28-2024 11:40 AM

Re: Stealth is not dead
 
The problem is not that stealth is dead.
The problem is that eBay has been very complicated lately, but the arguments of this forum and the stealth accounts are still alive.

serx2 04-28-2024 03:27 PM

Re: Stealth is not dead
 
Dunno actually got 3 accounts under the same name and they are working well after 1 year of selling vero items :D

solefoodbk 04-28-2024 05:02 PM

Re: Stealth is not dead
 
Mercari, I have reused my SSN over 3 times now, been verified with a selfie, and had tax docs updated. That only can work if you understand stealth as a term, not by definition. Back before MP, when you upgraded Paypal to a business you're operating real anyways. So the fact we now have a eBay with real information, it's in essence the same use Paypal served.

murdered_by_ebay 04-28-2024 06:03 PM

Re: Stealth is not dead
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by solefoodbk (Post 1240583)
Mercari, I have reused my SSN over 3 times now, been verified with a selfie, and had tax docs updated. That only can work if you understand stealth as a term, not by definition. Back before MP, when you upgraded Paypal to a business you're operating real anyways. So the fact we now have a eBay with real information, it's in essence the same use Paypal served.

yes and no depending on the business model , keep in mind there are many people here who do not have accounts that last due to their business model

for them stealth is over or close to that

rsot 04-29-2024 08:37 AM

Re: Stealth is not dead
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by agent006140 (Post 1240543)
If you have a large family,you could use their ID,SSN,DL,

with their permission of course - a lot depends on business model - and then there's the tax implication...

agent006140 04-30-2024 05:04 AM

Re: Stealth is not dead
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rsot (Post 1240606)
with their permission of course - a lot depends on business model - and then there's the tax implication...

Thats the problem-how to report income,if starting in 2025,it is $600 not $5000.

yobar 04-30-2024 08:11 AM

Re: Stealth is not dead
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by solefoodbk (Post 1240583)
Mercari, I have reused my SSN over 3 times now, been verified with a selfie, and had tax docs updated. That only can work if you understand stealth as a term, not by definition. Back before MP, when you upgraded Paypal to a business you're operating real anyways. So the fact we now have a eBay with real information, it's in essence the same use Paypal served.

totally agree with that.
but in some cases it may happen that this does not work in the best way for some. It would be interesting if it were explained better so that others can resolve doubts.

rsot 04-30-2024 08:22 AM

Re: Stealth is not dead
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by agent006140 (Post 1240698)
Thats the problem-how to report income,if starting in 2025,it is $600 not $5000.

if high volume of sales then there will be need for business setup - EIN, LLC, etc

solefoodbk 04-30-2024 04:43 PM

Re: Stealth is not dead
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rsot (Post 1240718)
if high volume of sales then there will be need for business setup - EIN, LLC, etc

Yeah, basically that is what differentiates now to 2015. If you can open multiple businesses, which you easily can via Legalzoom, then "stealth" still works just fine.

The days of easily making 50+ accounts, then ghosting them once a problem happens are over. But if you got suspended from an account you wanted long term, then getting back on is defiantly not over.

yobar 05-01-2024 01:34 PM

Re: Stealth is not dead
 
Everything changes friend, it is part of the process of this business, some time ago we could always do several a day, immediate suspension was very difficult. but now it's more difficult

JamesNorth101 05-02-2024 01:59 AM

Re: Stealth is not dead
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by solefoodbk (Post 1240532)
PSA: Stealth is not dead. I have seen this a lot since 2019, and as such this forum activity has declined significantly since I first joined over 10 years ago.

The definition of stealth to me was simply figuring out ways to get back on marketplaces, specifically eBay. I first tried to reuse my information, that obviously did not work. Then I tried different variations of my name, etc etc. Once I joined this forum I realized how to operate under different names and function on eBay. Now it’s under my real name but I’ve made 5+ accounts under the same name. Without understanding stealth practices that would be impossible.

Have applied this with Depop, Poshmark, Mercari etc.

Therefore the fundamentals learned on here still apply to long term success. I would say majority of people who get banned for any number of reasons take that as a final verdict. We’re all a minority who beat the system. Even with security having amplified to what it is, stealth still has prevailed in its purest sense, finding a way back on.

It’s worth a reminder…

It still works fine across all the platforms - the main issue now, at least for eBay, is that bank accounts have to be used and a lot of people just much much preferred it when PayPal could take payment. Made things a lot easier

Making accounts and running them in still much the same - so long as the ID can be passed which is fairly easy now, but its vital to have a bank account that matches the eBay country. Without that there is no way to cash out

Daveh83 05-06-2024 03:00 PM

Re: Stealth is not dead
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JamesNorth101 (Post 1240810)
It still works fine across all the platforms - the main issue now, at least for eBay, is that bank accounts have to be used and a lot of people just much much preferred it when PayPal could take payment. Made things a lot easier

Making accounts and running them in still much the same - so long as the ID can be passed which is fairly easy now, but its vital to have a bank account that matches the eBay country. Without that there is no way to cash out

So you shouid be ok with same name & same id but everything else diff? That shouldn’t link you with the bots if an account goes down.

rswomA 05-13-2024 06:08 AM

Re: Stealth is not dead
 
Stealth can still be done, from the previous year, I confirm that no significant changes have occurred in stealth ways, only some new ways to make your accounts more successful


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