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sam999 05-21-2024 12:44 PM

Warning red flags when creating new accounts
 
So I've noticed one definite red flag when making new accounts - the captcha. This basically means don't even bother proceeding.

I just made a bunch of accounts and noticed some of them asked for immediate phone verification while others didn't.
I also noticed one of them showed a different sign up screen without any images, although I didn't get a captcha or phone verification.

Can anyone advise if immediate phone verification or the alternate sign up screen put the accounts in high risk?

Thanks

Karlis96 05-21-2024 02:04 PM

Re: Warning red flags when creating new accounts
 
I got captcha every time when creating new account. They survive but after paid got reactivate account email.

yobar 05-21-2024 11:36 PM

Re: Warning red flags when creating new accounts
 
It is relative, not every time you request telephone verification the account will die, or not always if they do not ask for the account it will live

sam999 05-23-2024 06:26 PM

Re: Warning red flags when creating new accounts
 
What I'm looking for here are flag indicators such as the Captcha.
The captcha clearly means a weak account.

Beekay 05-24-2024 08:10 AM

Re: Warning red flags when creating new accounts
 
[QUOTE=sam999;1242014]What I'm looking for here are flag indicators such as the Captcha.
The captcha clearly means a weak accountUOTE]

The captcha dont mean weak account. I get it everytime. The thing is The captcha allows them to look into your user account lookin for suspect activities on the user account. I read somewhere anytime any website give you a captcha they looking at your cookies/activities....Keep in mind if its a new user account its nothing to look at lol..I go to Google and look around for cars etc before i build accounts. Most of my accounts survive.

vesania 05-24-2024 09:51 AM

Re: Warning red flags when creating new accounts
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Karlis96 (Post 1241895)
I got captcha every time when creating new account. They survive but after paid got reactivate account email.

You are still getting the reactivates?

Been getting hit with them no matter what phone, device or IP I use.

Reactivates never used to last this long ever.

Karlis96 05-24-2024 01:10 PM

Re: Warning red flags when creating new accounts
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by vesania (Post 1242024)
You are still getting the reactivates?

Been getting hit with them no matter what phone, device or IP I use.

Reactivates never used to last this long ever.

Yes. But its depend on day. Today for example i got reactivate right after listing, no matter what i list.
Today no any account has survived

SaiJin 05-24-2024 04:26 PM

Re: Warning red flags when creating new accounts
 
I don't know if this has anything to do with the eBay situation you guys are encountering, but my grandfathered amazon account now needs a phone pin or Auth app pin.

I couldn't choose phone or auth app, and it's random now.

But I have no problems with the account so far. It's been at least a month now

vesania 05-24-2024 06:54 PM

Re: Warning red flags when creating new accounts
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SaiJin (Post 1242039)
I don't know if this has anything to do with the eBay situation you guys are encountering, but my grandfathered amazon account now needs a phone pin or Auth app pin.

I couldn't choose phone or auth app, and it's random now.

But I have no problems with the account so far. It's been at least a month now

Truthfully, I can't really say.

It doesn't seem to be centered off one platform.

For example, I get a listing removal on a specific item I sell on eBay. That same item I list on mercari also gets taken down within minutes of the eBay.

Only thing I know is, these companies are implementing AI without the oversight of a human it seems.

rsot 05-25-2024 09:51 AM

Re: Warning red flags when creating new accounts
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by vesania (Post 1242051)
Truthfully, I can't really say.

It doesn't seem to be centered off one platform.

For example, I get a listing removal on a specific item I sell on eBay. That same item I list on mercari also gets taken down within minutes of the eBay.

Only thing I know is, these companies are implementing AI without the oversight of a human it seems.

certainly feels that AI is not being implemented well for some odd occasions

Karlis96 05-25-2024 11:27 PM

Re: Warning red flags when creating new accounts
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rsot (Post 1242067)
certainly feels that AI is not being implemented well for some odd occasions

You still have problems also ?

rsot 05-26-2024 10:45 AM

Re: Warning red flags when creating new accounts
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Karlis96 (Post 1242087)
You still have problems also ?

some but i dont sell hot items or vero/trademarked things like some others too

Karlis96 05-28-2024 07:33 AM

Re: Warning red flags when creating new accounts
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rsot (Post 1242117)
some but i dont sell hot items or vero/trademarked things like some others too

I got every. But they reinstate some of accounts

rsot 05-28-2024 07:39 AM

Re: Warning red flags when creating new accounts
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Karlis96 (Post 1242184)
I got every. But they reinstate some of accounts

lot of details lacking on your end for example what category of sales - that makes a difference....let alone the the exact item itself

vesania 05-28-2024 11:00 AM

Re: Warning red flags when creating new accounts
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Karlis96 (Post 1242184)
I got every. But they reinstate some of accounts

Are you creating the accounts under info of people that match or ⊗⊗⊗⊗ details?

Seems like a mixed bag for me. Some ⊗⊗⊗⊗ info works or gets it. Real info works and then other times it requires ID after trying to submit listing.

SaiJin 05-28-2024 11:05 AM

Re: Warning red flags when creating new accounts
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by vesania (Post 1242051)
Truthfully, I can't really say.

It doesn't seem to be centered off one platform.

For example, I get a listing removal on a specific item I sell on eBay. That same item I list on mercari also gets taken down within minutes of the eBay.

Only thing I know is, these companies are implementing AI without the oversight of a human it seems.

I'm sure there's a human that set the level of the AI / bot.
We just don't know what "level" it's on.

It kind sounds like the AI bot is just going outside of the platform to search for that one particular thing?

vesania 05-28-2024 11:30 AM

Re: Warning red flags when creating new accounts
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SaiJin (Post 1242206)
I'm sure there's a human that set the level of the AI / bot.
We just don't know what "level" it's on.

It kind sounds like the AI bot is just going outside of the platform to search for that one particular thing?

Last year was high as getting removals every 30 minutes, suspensions of accounts where they were not touched for months being linked together.

It's still at a level of being stupid as a lot of other sellers have pointed out on various forums. This with endless verification requests, reactivates, glitches, etc.

I give it till the end of this year, if not. I am out of eBay and focusing elsewhere.

No way these screwups should be continuing for this long.

Karlis96 05-28-2024 02:24 PM

Re: Warning red flags when creating new accounts
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rsot (Post 1242187)
lot of details lacking on your end for example what category of sales - that makes a difference....let alone the the exact item itself

Watches category.

Karlis96 05-28-2024 02:25 PM

Re: Warning red flags when creating new accounts
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by vesania (Post 1242204)
Are you creating the accounts under info of people that match or ⊗⊗⊗⊗ details?

Seems like a mixed bag for me. Some ⊗⊗⊗⊗ info works or gets it. Real info works and then other times it requires ID after trying to submit listing.

Yes all info match

SaiJin 05-28-2024 03:36 PM

Re: Warning red flags when creating new accounts
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by vesania (Post 1242211)
Last year was high as getting removals every 30 minutes, suspensions of accounts where they were not touched for months being linked together.

It's still at a level of being stupid as a lot of other sellers have pointed out on various forums. This with endless verification requests, reactivates, glitches, etc.

I give it till the end of this year, if not. I am out of eBay and focusing elsewhere.

No way these screwups should be continuing for this long.


Thing is for those who left, the space will be filled by new sellers =/

I don't think quitting completely is the way to go.

I know it's tough when we have to adjust and figure out a new way

agent006140 05-28-2024 04:51 PM

Re: Warning red flags when creating new accounts
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Karlis96 (Post 1242216)
Watches category.

New watches?
it is a high risk category

Karlis96 05-29-2024 03:17 AM

Re: Warning red flags when creating new accounts
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by agent006140 (Post 1242225)
New watches?
it is a high risk category

Used not new.

rsot 05-29-2024 08:34 AM

Re: Warning red flags when creating new accounts
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Karlis96 (Post 1242239)
Used not new.

the trademark might make it risky e.g. r0lex or so

Karlis96 05-29-2024 10:03 AM

Re: Warning red flags when creating new accounts
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rsot (Post 1242265)
the trademark might make it risky e.g. r0lex or so

Yes i know, but anyway. List whatever you want brand or not brand anyway get reactivate message.

vesania 05-29-2024 10:53 AM

Re: Warning red flags when creating new accounts
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Karlis96 (Post 1242276)
Yes i know, but anyway. List whatever you want brand or not brand anyway get reactivate message.

Try a different device.

Don't know what it is but my s24 seems to get hit with more reactivate or verify identity requests than my Iphone 11.

agent006140 05-31-2024 06:47 AM

Re: Warning red flags when creating new accounts
 
used or new watches,plenty of counterfeits out there,Rolex has a lawyer who would send you an email.

yungsc1005 06-01-2024 06:41 AM

Re: Warning red flags when creating new accounts
 
I just created an account and had captcha but didn’t request SSN. Just name, address, and confirm phone number. Which is odd because usually they ask for your last 4 digits of the SSN before the auction listing goes live.

indielad 06-01-2024 07:06 AM

Re: Warning red flags when creating new accounts
 
I didn't realise captchas can view browser history outside ebay. So it would be best to view other websites outside ebay and search for some items on search engines, as well as ebay browsing for a few weeks before creating an account?

yobar 06-01-2024 08:59 AM

Re: Warning red flags when creating new accounts
 
In these cases, the best thing is to continue selling and understanding how the system works now and continue selling, not stop learning and asking questions.

rsot 06-01-2024 11:42 AM

Re: Warning red flags when creating new accounts
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by indielad (Post 1242462)
I didn't realise captchas can view browser history outside ebay. So it would be best to view other websites outside ebay and search for some items on search engines, as well as ebay browsing for a few weeks before creating an account?

interesting point about captcha and other sites...hmm sharing of some browsing cookies are possible, etc

vesania 06-03-2024 10:12 PM

Re: Warning red flags when creating new accounts
 
Actually this captcha request kind of rings true for Poshmark. When I get hit with it when creating an account and making a listing, they ghost the account with the listing removed.

When I don't get hit with captcha, account sells fine.

rsot 06-04-2024 09:40 AM

Re: Warning red flags when creating new accounts
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by vesania (Post 1242605)
Actually this captcha request kind of rings true for Poshmark. When I get hit with it when creating an account and making a listing, they ghost the account with the listing removed.

When I don't get hit with captcha, account sells fine.

interesting about the non-captcha experience

vesania 07-21-2024 05:59 PM

Re: Warning red flags when creating new accounts
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by LunaHortor (Post 1244592)
hey survive but after paid got reactivate account email.

Ya, I am still getting it regardless.

Getting really damn annoying at this point.

rsot 07-22-2024 07:49 AM

Re: Warning red flags when creating new accounts
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by vesania (Post 1244599)
Ya, I am still getting it regardless.

Getting really damn annoying at this point.

almost 2 months and still having issues - anyone else experience the same?

vesania 07-22-2024 10:34 AM

Re: Warning red flags when creating new accounts
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rsot (Post 1244616)
almost 2 months and still having issues - anyone else experience the same?

It's not even just on eBay. These AI bots have been messing it up on other platforms as well.

Mercari, Etsy, Poshmark.

Listing removals, BS account closures. None of it having to do with logical reasons.

SaiJin 07-22-2024 07:27 PM

Re: Warning red flags when creating new accounts
 
I have to concur, the AI bots are rampant.

So far the best way is to make new accounts, but also prepare the docs and papers that'll be needed later on.

Basically assume you'll get these reactivation crap

stealthnorris 11-22-2024 02:52 AM

Re: Warning red flags when creating new accounts
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rsot (Post 1244616)
almost 2 months and still having issues - anyone else experience the same?

try to browse a bit on ebay and dont sign up right away on ebay

this should help and also try different browsers:

mozilla, chrome

lmk how it goes

macbookpro 11-26-2024 01:48 PM

Re: Warning red flags when creating new accounts
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by stealthnorris (Post 1249980)
try to browse a bit on ebay and dont sign up right away on ebay

this should help and also try different browsers:

mozilla, chrome

lmk how it goes

hi, I use virtual machine with windows 11, use mobile hot spot, and real sim numbers, and then register buyer account and browse few times and then wait 30 days to register seller account and still get reactivate message, any too you can advise here thanks

stealthnorris 11-27-2024 05:02 PM

Re: Warning red flags when creating new accounts
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by macbookpro (Post 1250196)
hi, I use virtual machine with windows 11, use mobile hot spot, and real sim numbers, and then register buyer account and browse few times and then wait 30 days to register seller account and still get reactivate message, any too you can advise here thanks

Were u getting any good results with virtual machine before this?

macbookpro 11-27-2024 05:16 PM

Re: Warning red flags when creating new accounts
 
yes mostly 1-2 out of 20 was going through, now not even I have been able to for almost a week


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