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james_112233 01-04-2025 03:59 AM

Re: Ebay's new bright idea. Charge buyers to buy off Ebay!
 
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Originally Posted by Mr_Blue_Sky (Post 1251693)
The dodgy NI number is an interesting one, I reckon it will pass muster with ebay if it meets the algorithm. Not their problem, over to you HMRC.

Don't worry about my morals, I sleep at night just fine. Maybe we've just got a different set of principles. I can only comment on matters which affect me directly and I don't consider it selfish to do so any less that the next person does. I too would like to see big corporations held to account more meaningfully but it's out of my control and successive governments have all failed, or are scared, to address it.

Just to clarify...again....as I said above, single parents and grannies unloading their personal wares have nothing to worry about and are of no concern to me. Business operators making good money hiding behind private seller accounts, one would assume for the purpose of tax evasion, are fair game as, in my eyes, they are taking sales away from me and I'd like to see the back of them. Nothing personal :)

From what i've read on the .gov website is that all digital platforms will have to do their own due diligence whether using an external agent or whatever and then submit the info to HMRC to avoid penalties by January every year ... and then if HMRC's softwares or Ai machine accepts the data you have then successfully submitted the data.

So account holders giving a false N.I might not work as HMRC may relay that back to the platform immediately.

All of this is definitely going to be automated and fed into a program, I don't think any real person is handling this mountain of data.

indielad 01-04-2025 04:04 AM

Re: Ebay's new bright idea. Charge buyers to buy off Ebay!
 
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Originally Posted by Mr_Blue_Sky (Post 1251699)
Sure, it will affect granny selling her unwanted tat. But is still a small fee for great exposure and lets not forget granny was paying more in fees this time last year. Didn't see anyone complaining then or banging down ebays door demanding private sellers should have their fees reduced.

Here's a hypothetical question for you which I appreciate is impossible to answer meaningfully. If the Treasury could enforce a noticeable taxation of big corporations how much would you like to see raised? Do you think we, as the little guys, would see any reduction in our personal taxation and/or an improvement in public services?

I don't think so. Do you know what I think would happen. My fees would go up and I'd be net worse off, ironically I might end up paying less in tax on my reduced profits. And still not be able to get an appointment with my GP and watch even more billions frittered away on the NHS, diversity, free hotels, foreign aid and the net zero madness.

I'll stick my neck out and say if the money pits I mention above were managed better we'd

save many times more than we could ever hope to raise via corporate taxation.


You seem prone to Groupthink. People are sheeple.. I remember people voting for BJ in 2020 to reduce immigration mainly caused by Brexit. The Tories of course are even more globalist than the EUphiles. All that happened then is immigration soared, even higher iit was just the colour of the skin of the immigrant that changed., but people still believed immigration would fall on his mindless mantra "get Brexit done"

Have a think about why you'd be so eager to punish the very poorest in society, but at the same time, admire or at least be relaxed about ebay's and other corporates tax avoidance. This country is 2.2 trillion pounds in debt, and that money is sorely needed.Are you thinking rationaly or participating in groupthink? Do you blame immigrants who come over seeking better lives. Or do you blame the government and corporates who exploit them for cheap labour and to artificially raise GDP?

Mr_Blue_Sky 01-04-2025 05:53 AM

Re: Ebay's new bright idea. Charge buyers to buy off Ebay!
 
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Originally Posted by james_112233 (Post 1251717)
From what i've read on the .gov website is that all digital platforms will have to do their own due diligence whether using an external agent or whatever and then submit the info to HMRC to avoid penalties by January every year ... and then if HMRC's softwares or Ai machine accepts the data you have then successfully submitted the data.

So account holders giving a false N.I might not work as HMRC may relay that back to the platform immediately.

All of this is definitely going to be automated and fed into a program, I don't think any real person is handling this mountain of data.

For sure, a dodgy NI number will eventually be picked up by HMRC and relayed back to eBay, just wasn't sure on the time-frame for this and it might buy the seller a bit of extra time. I wasn't trying to imply it was a solution just that I didn't think it was eBays role to verify it at source.

Again, I don't know the answer, but does any private entity, eBay, Vinted, Deliveroo, AirbnB, Amazon, you, me etc etc have access to any State database to verify NI numbers against an individual? I would hope not. But maybe I'm a bit naive as to how freely our personal information can be accessed.


Looking at it again now I've slept on it, If I was HMRC anyone submitting a dodgy NI number would be flagged for investigation by my algorithm so maybe 'buying time' as I mooted above isn't the best idea. Think I'd be walking away from my stealth account or, as we've discussed, going legit.

I guess we'll see how it plays out over the next 12 months or so.

Mr_Blue_Sky 01-04-2025 06:00 AM

Re: Ebay's new bright idea. Charge buyers to buy off Ebay!
 
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Originally Posted by murdered_by_ebay (Post 1251712)
I wrote further above about the purpose , that is that private sellers have great significance on ebay

No you haven't, I can't see where you've discussed the reasoning, good or bad, for this fee and why OP started the thread. You've simply tried to derail it, as always, with anti-ebay or unconnected comments.

indielad 01-04-2025 06:38 AM

Re: Ebay's new bright idea. Charge buyers to buy off Ebay!
 
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Originally Posted by Mr_Blue_Sky (Post 1251723)
No you haven't, I can't see where you've discussed the reasoning, good or bad, for this fee and why OP started the thread. You've simply tried to derail it, as always, with anti-ebay or unconnected comments.

The reasoning is, of course that ebay have done this to a) boost it's coffers b) to placate sellers who share your opinion that private sellers who sell mainly tat, or only lightly sell, are a massive threat to the livelihood of business sellers. Ebay deserve to make some profit of course, but not operating as a tax avoiding, ruthless corporate ripping the nation of billuons. A smaller flat fee would be fairer for all. Perhaps private sellers could sell say 100 items a month free of charge then pay fees on further sales?

You remind me a bit of the Daily Mail reader, blaming immigrants for coming over, or people languishing on benefits, or those on the bottom rung of society desperate to make ends meet selling a few item,but these are mainly the symptoms of corporation greed, globalisation, and corrupt governments.

indielad 01-04-2025 06:42 AM

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Bu the way. I thought ebay had launched free selling on ebay due to the rise of other selling platforms such as etsy and vinted being free to sell on? I'm not sure how this new policy doesn't contradict their previous one?

rsot 01-04-2025 01:20 PM

Re: Ebay's new bright idea. Charge buyers to buy off Ebay!
 
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Originally Posted by SaiJin (Post 1251706)
No, Mercari buyers will get their goods more expensive.

They are adding the seller fees back but I think buyers will still be paying their buyer fee.

It's like tipping in USA. Over used and abused

Buyers paying fees will annoy ppl who already demand free superfast shipping, etc..

WasTopRatedThenBanned 01-10-2025 11:52 PM

Re: Ebay's new bright idea. Charge buyers to buy off Ebay!
 
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Originally Posted by SaiJin (Post 1251701)
So mercari did this last year but as of next week they are going back to charging seller fees.

Considering eBay is a bigger platform, I wonder if this would actually work for them

YES Mercari is great again!

rsot 01-11-2025 10:54 AM

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vettefever17 01-24-2025 02:22 AM

Re: Ebay's new bright idea. Charge buyers to buy off Ebay!
 
This will not go over well. This is double dipping adding to the fact that eBay promotion has made it insanely expensive for sellers. It sounds like some bullsh*t Ivy League think tank theory. "Let's squeeze buyers for protection while the sellers throw themselves at the buyers at low prices without seeing their backend cost. They'll think they're getting a deal worth the small fee, all the while both sides are getting gouged. This is simply put, GREED.

rsot 01-24-2025 10:20 AM

Re: Ebay's new bright idea. Charge buyers to buy off Ebay!
 
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Originally Posted by vettefever17 (Post 1252641)
This will not go over well. This is double dipping adding to the fact that eBay promotion has made it insanely expensive for sellers. It sounds like some bullsh*t Ivy League think tank theory. "Let's squeeze buyers for protection while the sellers throw themselves at the buyers at low prices without seeing their backend cost. They'll think they're getting a deal worth the small fee, all the while both sides are getting gouged. This is simply put, GREED.

The greed factor is real - very annoying

agent006140 01-25-2025 09:46 AM

Re: Ebay's new bright idea. Charge buyers to buy off Ebay!
 
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Originally Posted by anna115 (Post 1252642)
That’s surprising! It seems eBay might be trying to cover the costs of enhanced buyer protection, but adding fees for buyers could discourage purchases. Personally, I think it’s a risky move when they’re aiming to attract more buyers. They should balance providing value without making buyers feel overcharged.

is this just UK only?
Does it cover certain categories only?
I am in USA,I have not received any notice?
This reminds me of auction,where both buyer and seller pay fees

rsot 01-25-2025 12:33 PM

Re: Ebay's new bright idea. Charge buyers to buy off Ebay!
 
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Originally Posted by agent006140 (Post 1252705)
is this just UK only?
Does it cover certain categories only?
I am in USA,I have not received any notice?
This reminds me of auction,where both buyer and seller pay fees

Asking the right questions but not doing the right research and reading - expand your searching :)

jak 01-27-2025 05:20 PM

Re: Ebay's new bright idea. Charge buyers to buy off Ebay!
 
Seems ebay is doing everything they can to destroy there own platform. Maybe its time to start a new platform?

solefoodbk 01-31-2025 01:14 AM

Re: Ebay's new bright idea. Charge buyers to buy off Ebay!
 
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Originally Posted by WasTopRatedThenBanned (Post 1252025)
YES Mercari is great again!

Mercari is the WORST marketplace out of all them by a long mile.

rsot 01-31-2025 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by WasTopRatedThenBanned (Post 1252025)
YES Mercari is great again!

Traffic increasing?


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