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Anyone think accounts are linked by facial recognition?
 

If accounts are created with new phone, IP etc, old / other address but request facial recognition of that same person when converting into a seller, does anyone know if this would link the accounts together, has anyone run into this?

Thanks

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When you say old address, do you mean just a reuse of the address or same and registration info too?

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No I mean an old address on credit history file that hasn't been used before with ebay.
All fresh details but reuse of face.

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Hmm I feel that the facial recognition alone won't link accounts - it would take more coding to match up facial recognition and I doubt eb wants to invest in that. It's easy to match name and dob and other details when it's textual info...

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The eBay privacy policy states that they store geometric face data though so that sounds like it would be a data hash.

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Absolutely biometrics data will be linked if you use the same face to create a new account. They save your biometric data for 3 years.

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They don't have the tech to do this, it's just paranoia. Phones themselves need you to do multiple selfies from all angles. The amount of money it would take to store this data and cross reference is not plausible for any of these marketplaces. They have hundred of millions of users. If you factor for dormant accounts also.

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No facial recognition is to match your face with your ID

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Right on - feels way too advanced and code heavy

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Outside of selling platforms I feel like this shouldn't be allowed.
Imagine a police state and what your data will be used for.

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If servers are housed in a country not particularly adept with safeguarding of personal info, you can only imagine...hmm

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Agreed queen !

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*flicks hair with a smirk*

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:) HUGS ! :cheer:

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platforms like eBay, Amazon, and payment processors don't just have a human looking at your selfie. They use third-party KYC (Know Your Customer) software like Jumio or Onfido. When you do the facial scan, the software creates a biometric mesh of your face and checks it against their database.

If your face/ID is already in their system tied to your main account, the AI will match it to the new account. It’s an automatic red flag for a duplicate account, and the system will link them together right then and there.

If you are trying to run a genuinely unlinked/stealth account, the golden rule is that you cannot use the same biometric data or ID twice. Most people get around this by having a trusted family member, close friend, or business partner agree to be the "face" and director of the new account, using their ID and their selfie.

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Have you already given your Id to eb or always been stealth?

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f you are trying to run a genuinely unlinked/stealth account, the golden rule is that you cannot use the same biometric data or ID twice. Most people get around this by having a trusted family member, close friend, or business partner agree to be the "face" and director of the new account, using their ID and their selfie.

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It is not that simple,the seller used his ex wife.girlfriend and the relationship ended in a non amiable manner.
The person you rely on died,and his estate is now in limbo,heirs and/or tax authority want a piece of his Ebay pie.
Or you dont know his password and cant get into the account,or you just cant get into his account because you are not 'him' or you log in from a different country.
Or he gets an audit from IRS and he spilled the beans,and you get an audit as well.

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Yes in the early days I did give my ID when my real account got mc011, I submitted legit documents but still permanent selling restriction. I made the early mistake of trying to create new accounts under family members names but using the same address which were also banned due to being linked.
It has been hard toil to figure out what works on eBay nowadays.

I was using a stealth account, then converted to my own name, which was fine for about a month, then a spike in sales and they requested just the ID, I gave my ID and it was banned instantly, since then I do not submit same IDs.

I did submit a Subject Access Request to eBay to find out what data they hold on me but I didn't get a response.

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It is far simpler than you think, I don't need to go into detail, as concepts of stealth can be applied to a real info account and all the reasons you mentioned are too easily avoided, I speak from my experience and the UK platform.

Even with the new concept of eBay reporting to the tax authorities, it is still possible to play the game, if you know how.

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I could see them being callous with this request, unfortunately

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Yeah, if I had time to waste then I would chase it but can't really be bothered/lazy.

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I did one myself about 5 years ago, lots of hoops to jump through for basically a list of all my listings, orders and messages to customer support, nothing like the amount of information they really hold.

From what i remember I had to give them a passport scan and after about a month I got a phone call from a polite guy who gave me a URL and dictated a long password to access a zip file containing the data.

He was very apologetic and said most people expected to find out why they were suspended but that was never disclosed.

Complete waste of time

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Thanks for the contributed experience - does support the waste of time unfortunately

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Yeah they would never disclose that information as to "prevent people circumventing their security system" is what I was told by an Indian eBay rep.

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Might not be related, but is uncertain what eBay can see.

Just last week, one of my accounts got locked because a 3rd party tool triggered a suspicious login.

Had to contact them to get it restored. The rep done the usual verification, questions, number to email, etc. Once that was all said and done, the rep said the account would be restored once I changed the password to my email.

Me thinking, why that would even matter to begin with. I complied thinking it was stupid, but once I did. The rep said they checked on their end and confirmed it was changed allowing me to restore the account.

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May be bluffing, but they can tell it was changed if they send a link with a hidden image which shows up when you check your messages, for sure if you have their spyware ebay app installed on your phone...

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Those reps are entirely useless and just read scripts. They do not have minds, basically human robots.

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CSRs don't have power to do as much as the ones way back when customer service was much more genuine, sadly

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Someday, one day, yes. Currently, I just don't see the database being there unless they linked you with common data (i.e., dob, address, name). You'd probably have to use the same ID picture, keep the same facial features, and use database points from the common data. If you changed a point between each category, I imagine it would have a statistical chance to beat it.

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What is the minimum wage now in California?
$35 /hour?

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:focus: hah new thread time agent

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Not new thread,when you complain about an Ebay rep,figures how much Ebay has to pay for an American rep with no foreign accent and knows all about Ebay rules.

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American reps do not know all about eBay rules, sometimes they are worse. It is a bit of a lottery if you will get a decent rep, if i feel a conversation is going the wrong way I end it and then try again with a different rep.

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It is a longstanding principle that you may have to cycle through reps for a decent one - been years like this, if you have the time.

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I agree with this.

These people are reading off a script basically and they don't know the inner working completely.

They'll tell you on the phone what they're being told what to say basically.

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How do you expect a rep making minimum wage to know all the rules,back in mid 2000,Ebay told the court it has half a million rules !,so figure it must have one million rules by now !!

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They are expected to know because that is their job day in day out! This is exactly what they get paid for. Not rocket science.

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get paid minimum wage and know all the rules 1/2 million rules,there must be a sucker born every minute.
BTW,how much do you give Ebay $$ ?

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yep, can't trust them no matter how nice they sound.

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I am having problem with IRS,my accountant filed my return online,no problem in the past,I signed the return and he submitted it.
Now I received a letter from IRS saying I have to go and verify my ID on its site to make sure I am the one,it was a big pain,it wants me to sign in to my account and use a feature called ID ME??where IRS will connect with my cell phone and I will place my driver license on the table and take a photo front and back.then sent it.
I tried several times,it said picture is too dark,so I keep trying and now I am waiting for IRS to approve it.
So if IRS is using it,AMZN and Ebay could as well,to us,it is a big pain.
It will check name and address,Driver license number,DOB and sex on my driver license,does it look at the photo??
It could,if I said I am female and pic is a man,