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vettefever17 07-02-2026 03:06 AM

Re: Promoted Listings - how are you handling it?
 
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Originally Posted by phaz0rz (Post 1268392)
I'm talking about people who used to sell eBay accounts on this forum. All of the accounts I'm running today came from plumsake. I bought them as "high limit stealth accounts" then made them legit by adding an EIN.


I don't remember his name but there used to be a Canadian eBay account seller here that I bought 3 accounts from. I miss those days, a lot. I ran tens of thousands of dollars through those accounts without ever opening a Canadian bank account. I just used Paypal invoicing to transfer all the money to my US Paypal accounts. Always amazed me how seamlessly it worked.



Needless to say, managed payments put an end to that. It's probably not a stretch to say that kind of thing is exactly why managed payments even became a thing.

Plumsake was a goat. Dudes account ran gold into my bank accounts. Bjammin was solid as well.

rsot 07-02-2026 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by SaiJin (Post 1268973)
Eh? What does Kirkland/Costco have anything to do with banking?

Are they starting one?

Kirkland is the name of a member here - that's what he was referencing is :lol:

agent006140 07-03-2026 06:24 AM

Re: Promoted Listings - how are you handling it?
 
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Originally Posted by hello1212 (Post 1268931)
Wait.. Don't tell me you get charged rent in the States for simply opening and having a current account? If so that's a rip off..

I bank with 10 different high street banks and another 10 neo banks free of charge here in the UK

There is a minimum balance one has to maintain in the account,say $1500 for checking,$300 for saving,else there will be a monthly fee ,say$15,.
You figure it costs the bank money to maintain accounts,sending out bank statements ,etc

hello1212 07-04-2026 04:27 AM

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Originally Posted by agent006140 (Post 1269012)
There is a minimum balance one has to maintain in the account,say $1500 for checking,$300 for saving,else there will be a monthly fee ,say$15,.
You figure it costs the bank money to maintain accounts,sending out bank statements ,etc

That's not so bad, I've seen banks requiring over $10,000 as a minimum balance, that's when it starts becoming an inconvenience, especially when you use your money to make more money. Over here in the UK, we can open several current accounts free of charge that's why I found it bizarre that you pay a subscription for the same service in the States

agent006140 07-04-2026 07:39 AM

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May be UKers are good savers ,USers are cash poor and credit rich,they own many credit cards and use them to buy things,they can also use them to pay for auto insurance,utility bills.
Most small businesses frown on credit card users,they prefer cash and I dont blame them.

phaz0rz 07-04-2026 12:27 PM

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It's because banking is a Wolf of Wall Street style madhouse in the US. Between banks and credit unions we have over ten thousand options to choose from (actual chartered institutions with deposit insurance). In the UK you guys have what, like a dozen options at most to choose from?

agent006140 07-04-2026 03:10 PM

Re: Promoted Listings - how are you handling it?
 
We do have too many banks.
But how many of us really keep a lot of money in our bank account?
Banks have made our deposits available sooner than later as many just use their bank account as a way of cashing their paycheck and want to withdraw immediately to buy grocery,pay bills.
There are other ways to cash your paycheck at supermarkets,currency exchange but with a high fee.

agent006140 07-04-2026 03:14 PM

Re: Promoted Listings - how are you handling it?
 
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Originally Posted by hello1212 (Post 1269021)
That's not so bad, I've seen banks requiring over $10,000 as a minimum balance, that's when it starts becoming an inconvenience, especially when you use your money to make more money. Over here in the UK, we can open several current accounts free of charge that's why I found it bizarre that you pay a subscription for the same service in the States

I dont recall ever running into any US bank with minimum balance of $10,000,Chase has some premier accounts which require higher balance,but it promises a higher interest rate
Business checking account does have a higher requirement,say $1000,

phaz0rz 07-05-2026 08:55 AM

Re: Promoted Listings - how are you handling it?
 
Wells Fargo has a $10k minimum balance as one of the ways to avoid account fees. Hardly scalable though.

hello1212 07-08-2026 05:04 AM

Re: Promoted Listings - how are you handling it?
 
Personally though, I don't trust any banks in the west/europe any longer. A recent law passed to do with AML regulations whereby banks are able to freeze your account(s) and hold your funds against your will for an undisclosed amount of time.

It happened to a friend of mine, he has been waiting for weeks now, seen similiar cases on reddit and online of 50 year old women complaining they've had their money locked for 2+ months, it's insanity.

If they decide to, they can and will do so and you have no say in the matter, you are left helpless at the mercy of their underpaid/miserable customer service teams that couldn't care less.

I personally keep most of my money offshore as these western regulations are beyond ridiculous, as soon as something like this can happen, it's game over.

rsot 07-08-2026 09:23 AM

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HSBC bank is known for demanding high amounts to be kept in foreign currency accounts in order to keep them active...it's rough as a side note

phaz0rz 07-09-2026 05:38 PM

Re: Promoted Listings - how are you handling it?
 
Struggling to maintain an ROAS over 6.0 lately. Anyone else?

vettefever17 07-10-2026 02:48 AM

Re: Promoted Listings - how are you handling it?
 
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Originally Posted by phaz0rz (Post 1269195)
Struggling to maintain an ROAS over 6.0 lately. Anyone else?

9-10 currently. Sales are down slightly, but that's expected for July.

phaz0rz 07-10-2026 07:02 PM

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Haha, that would be awesome! I was pushing 9 a few weeks ago on one account but in the last few weeks it's dropped under 6.


Traffic is good though. I'm getting several hundred listings views per day on 2 fronts but the bar chart looks so sketchy in my traffic tab. For "impressions" and "listing views" it always shows an almost even split between organic and promoted. But when I click on the "quantity sold" tab, 95% of all sales are attributed to promoted listings. I don't understand how both my impressions and listing views stats can show a large % of organic traffic.. but then none of it translates to sales..?

agent006140 07-10-2026 07:56 PM

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I don't understand how both my impressions and listing views stats can show a large % of organic traffic.. but then none of it translates to sales..?
This is common on Ebay,also Etsy,

vettefever17 07-13-2026 02:23 AM

Re: Promoted Listings - how are you handling it?
 
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Originally Posted by phaz0rz (Post 1269235)
Haha, that would be awesome! I was pushing 9 a few weeks ago on one account but in the last few weeks it's dropped under 6.


Traffic is good though. I'm getting several hundred listings views per day on 2 fronts but the bar chart looks so sketchy in my traffic tab. For "impressions" and "listing views" it always shows an almost even split between organic and promoted. But when I click on the "quantity sold" tab, 95% of all sales are attributed to promoted listings. I don't understand how both my impressions and listing views stats can show a large % of organic traffic.. but then none of it translates to sales..?

It means there is some bull**** in there. I usually only see organic sales from auctions. If it is from buy-it-now, it is so rare that I'd be better off gambling at a casino.

Mind you, my ratio of 9 is on VERY hot items. I have a system I use to keep pumping them out.

phaz0rz 07-14-2026 06:56 AM

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rsot 07-14-2026 12:08 PM

Re: Promoted Listings - how are you handling it?
 
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Originally Posted by phaz0rz (Post 1269380)

Class action - time to get in on it...if possible.

phaz0rz 07-14-2026 03:00 PM

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There isn't one yet but this is some seriously shady behavior I've been seeing with promoted listings. I wouldn't be surprised if there is one at some point. They are milking hot selling categories for more and more with each new policy update.

vettefever17 07-16-2026 01:38 AM

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I'd be EXTREMELY curious to know how their "suggested ad rate" is calculated. I've noticed 9% on all auctions at least, 10-12% on the majority of categories, and some items have insane 18%+. That is damn near creeping up on 40% of the total sale.

Also, I think it is unfair to charge their fee on the total sale. It should be just the item price, not the taxes or shipping costs. Why? Because the customer pays the taxes, and we pay the shipping.

Don't get me started on the above-average return metric where they tack on another 5% to the selling fee. That number is always insane. All of my accounts have returns of less than 5%, and I'm still charged the extra fee.

phaz0rz 07-23-2026 03:14 PM

Re: Promoted Listings - how are you handling it?
 
I think my thread effected eBay policy.

agent006140 08-02-2026 08:06 AM

Re: Promoted Listings - how are you handling it?
 
Also, I think it is unfair to charge their fee on the total sale. It should be just the item price, not the taxes or shipping costs. Why? Because the customer pays the taxes, and we pay the shipping.
The reason Ebay charges fee on shipping costs is that sellers will list an item for $1 and charge 65 for shipping.

agent006140 08-02-2026 08:08 AM

Re: Promoted Listings - how are you handling it?
 
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Originally Posted by rsot (Post 1269171)
HSBC bank is known for demanding high amounts to be kept in foreign currency accounts in order to keep them active...it's rough as a side note

Is that HSBC in Canada?
The last time I visited a HSBC bank in SE Asia,thats not the case,I have a choice of Yen,local currency,or US $

phaz0rz 08-02-2026 09:40 AM

Re: Promoted Listings - how are you handling it?
 
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Originally Posted by agent006140 (Post 1270222)
Also, I think it is unfair to charge their fee on the total sale. It should be just the item price, not the taxes or shipping costs. Why? Because the customer pays the taxes, and we pay the shipping.
The reason Ebay charges fee on shipping costs is that sellers will list an item for $1 and charge 65 for shipping.

If you start a petition and get a certain amount of votes, the white house has to check it out. :lol:

agent006140 08-02-2026 11:02 AM

Re: Promoted Listings - how are you handling it?
 
offers free shipping then,thats why power sellers do,as they get a discount on FVF on the item only.(not shipping).
question-I saw some Ebay sellers selling bubblewrap ,the listing said it will be shipped media mail?
Does bubble wrap considered media mail??

agent006140 08-02-2026 11:06 AM

Re: Promoted Listings - how are you handling it?
 
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Originally Posted by phaz0rz (Post 1269922)
I think my thread effected eBay policy.

is that good English?
Where is SAX4??

phaz0rz 08-02-2026 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by agent006140 (Post 1270231)
is that good English?
Where is SAX4??

I asked google if I should use affect or effect. Was still unclear on it :pout:

Enid Nathaniei 08-03-2026 08:12 PM

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Smart sellers need to track ROI closely instead of blindly increasing ad rates.Try to increase the average order value (through bundled or combo sales) and reduce the proportion of advertising costs.

phaz0rz 08-03-2026 08:26 PM

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Yeah for sure it's a bad idea to do anything in business blindly.

rsot 08-04-2026 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by agent006140 (Post 1270223)
Is that HSBC in Canada?
The last time I visited a HSBC bank in SE Asia,thats not the case,I have a choice of Yen,local currency,or US $

My specific use of HSBC is based in the UK.

HSBC in Canada folded into RBC...sadly

kirkland 08-06-2026 03:11 PM

Re: Promoted Listings - how are you handling it?
 
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Originally Posted by phaz0rz (Post 1270236)
I asked google if I should use affect or effect. Was still unclear on it :pout:

As I am a lover of vocabulary, I will comment on this

Usually you would use "affect" as it is the more common usage. You "affect" something by exerting some influence over it.

But technically, you could "effect" a policy change. the difference being that when you "effect" the change, you are the single driving force behind it. As opposed to "affecting" some change, where your influence is milder but still measurable

Usually the difference in usage is more obvious, eg affect is the verb, effect is the noun, so this was actually a pretty cool use case

:focus:

Nimble 08-07-2026 03:24 PM

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I'm in debt, made stupid decisions in the past, now working my balls off to catch up.

phaz0rz 08-07-2026 04:20 PM

Re: Promoted Listings - how are you handling it?
 
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Originally Posted by Nimble (Post 1270447)
I'm in debt, made stupid decisions in the past, now working my balls off to catch up.

Hard to even keep up with inflation when pushing the same numbers as 5 years ago is now worth like 30% less

agent006140 08-15-2026 06:36 AM

Re: Promoted Listings - how are you handling it?
 
Whenever someone sees a price increase,he will scream Price Gourging,inflation,typo ,greed.
But when your employer gives you a raise,do you cry Inflation and decline the raise?
Who do you think is going to pick up 'that inflationary raise you just received'?

agent006140 08-15-2026 06:47 AM

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Originally Posted by phaz0rz (Post 1270451)
Hard to even keep up with inflation when pushing the same numbers as 5 years ago is now worth like 30% less

It would get worse when Trump wants more to be made in USA and all these corporations borrowing billions for AI and our deficit will soon go from 45 trillions to 55 trillions.
Where should we hide our savings?gold?silver?cryptos?toilet paper??
In the past,I have taken advantage of sales and coupons to buy household items like toilet paper,paper towels,soap,detergent,hand lotion,I cant believe how these items have gone up in prices lately?

phaz0rz 08-15-2026 07:52 AM

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Silver has proven to be a pretty good store of value but lets be realistic.. manufacturing is never coming back to the US. We don't have the slave labor force that other countries have.

agent006140 08-15-2026 11:06 AM

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It does not matter ,we will have to make it here and buy it here,cheap imports will not be cheap if there is high tarriff,cant wait to see what happens when Chinese EVs are allowed

agent006140 08-15-2026 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by phaz0rz (Post 1270833)
Silver has proven to be a pretty good store of value but lets be realistic.. manufacturing is never coming back to the US. We don't have the slave labor force that other countries have.

silver is poor man's gold,everytime gold goes up.people will say I bought some silver ,expecting silver to rise along with gold.
It seldom happen until recently when all the talk about silver shortage,industrial and commercial use of silver push silver to $78 .troy ounce,but falls back to what $58 and now it is $64,still pretty good price!
Back in old days,due to lack of modern mining technique,silver is worth more,people will show you a silver coin and said THIS IS SILVER !
Now we just yawn when someone said that.
To make things worse,there are plenty of silver ware ready to be scrapped-silver candles,dishes,plates,jewelry,bars ,coins,and the refiners do not want them .

agent006140 08-15-2026 11:37 AM

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Gold is recognised as a store of value in most cultures for thousands of years,in Kuwait they have vending machines selling gold,in HK jewelry store,they display real time value of gold,and the gold statues you bought from them,you can sell them back and they will pay you for whatever it is worth that day.
If you want to sell your gold,do not sell on Ebay,you will only get the scrap value and you will have to pay Ebay FVF,cc fee,shipping and insurance and end up with a INAD DISPUTE !

phaz0rz 08-15-2026 12:12 PM

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We're multiple years into this "drastic trade war" and nothing's really changed. There's nothing that can be produced profitably in the Unites States except for military equipment.. and even that's only profitable because it's subsidized by taxpayers and for all the wrong reasons :coffee:


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