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gghost 07-14-2026 12:55 AM

USPS rural Area
 
USPS shipping is a nightmare for rural zips. Why is there no way to add these into eBay's rate tables? Am I missing a setting somewhere, or is there a workaround to avoid losing money on these specific shipments?

gghost 07-14-2026 03:56 AM

Re: USPS rural Area
 
Shipping a 4oz package to a rural area costs over $7, which is outrageous. While eBay encourages sellers to offer free shipping, impossible to maintain the same pricing for rural customers while covering those costs.

phaz0rz 07-14-2026 07:03 AM

Re: USPS rural Area
 
Adjust your prices. Everyone is having to deal with this price increase.


For those USPS shipments that now cost over $7 to send, it's cheaper to use the Fedex economy service.

agent006140 07-14-2026 07:18 AM

Re: USPS rural Area
 
Does Fed EXP Ground charge more for rural area?

agent006140 07-14-2026 07:19 AM

Re: USPS rural Area
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gghost (Post 1269372)
Shipping a 4oz package to a rural area costs over $7, which is outrageous. While eBay encourages sellers to offer free shipping, impossible to maintain the same pricing for rural customers while covering those costs.

Is it more than 2 inches thick?

agent006140 07-14-2026 07:21 AM

Re: USPS rural Area
 
everything has gone up,from texas to florida a 5 oz package is $5.89.
Dont forget $100 insurance is included.

phaz0rz 07-14-2026 07:32 AM

Re: USPS rural Area
 
Everything hasn't gone up. It's just certain sub-pound shipments going to rural zip codes. I watched the new rate go into effect on Saturday. Shipments to those zip codes went from costing $6, to $7.50-$7.90.


As a result, I left ten shipments in a Fedex dropbox yesterday. It was the first time in my selling career using Fedex (always used USPS for small orders and UPS for large orders since I can walk them into a UPS store). The shipments USPS wanted $7.86 for, Fedex was willing to ship for $6.97.


@OP - you can print Fedex economy labels from eBay, same as you can print USPS labels.

gghost 07-15-2026 01:27 AM

Re: USPS rural Area
 
Thank you, @phaz0rz. When I used FedEx Economy in the past, USPS handled the final delivery. If a package was refused, USPS returned it and charged the sender for the return shipping. I am unsure if that is still their standard practice.

phaz0rz 07-15-2026 05:14 AM

Re: USPS rural Area
 
Is customer refusing packages really that big of an issue for you? I have maybe one in 500 shipments refused and most of the time if they are, it's because I asked the customer to refuse it (in cases where I had to ship an order twice).


When I saw that $7.86 price tag on Saturday, Fedex became a lack of options rather than a choice.

agent006140 07-15-2026 10:34 AM

Re: USPS rural Area
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gghost (Post 1269422)
Thank you, @phaz0rz. When I used FedEx Economy in the past, USPS handled the final delivery. If a package was refused, USPS returned it and charged the sender for the return shipping. I am unsure if that is still their standard practice.

YES,NO ONE does a better job for the LAST MILE delivery than the post office,it collects $x.xx for doing so.
I think this is why we see USPS working on Sunday

SaiJin 07-15-2026 06:09 PM

Re: USPS rural Area
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by phaz0rz (Post 1269425)
Is customer refusing packages really that big of an issue for you? I have maybe one in 500 shipments refused and most of the time if they are, it's because I asked the customer to refuse it (in cases where I had to ship an order twice).


When I saw that $7.86 price tag on Saturday, Fedex became a lack of options rather than a choice.

So fedex has the best rate now?

agent006140 07-15-2026 07:14 PM

Re: USPS rural Area
 
It depends,in US,Fed Exp is supposed to be classy,thats what its customer service tells me,the Fed Exp guy,6 ft 2 inches tall in uniform,fit and trim ,come to the front desk and drop off the packages .
It is used by businesses,and Fed Exp drivers often get frustrated trying to get into an apt complex when the leasing office agent is not there to let him in as he is away showing apartments.
Fed Exp is really for businesses,not individuals like us.

phaz0rz 07-15-2026 09:25 PM

Re: USPS rural Area
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SaiJin (Post 1269463)
So fedex has the best rate now?

It only applies to rural/less populated parts of the country. Montana, Maine, lesser known parts of California, Mississippi, Texas, and Virginia are some of the places I've had to use Fedex for this week because of the new USPS rates.

It's going by population density - with Cali, TX, and VA I had to use Fedex for an order but I've also had orders ship to other parts of those states this week via USPS with the same rates as before.

Puerto Rico, Alaska, Hawaii, APO/FPOs, and territories don't qualify for Fedex economy so shipments going to those places went from costing $6 and some change to $8 and some change via USPS Ground Advantage.

agent006140 07-15-2026 10:33 PM

Re: USPS rural Area
 
Have you ever looked in to DHL?

phaz0rz 07-16-2026 02:11 PM

Re: USPS rural Area
 
Years ago but it's too expensive to use for anything small being shipped domestically. I think there's a USPS/DHL last mile partnership that still exists but I don't have any way to access that program or its rates.

Those last mile partnerships are the only competition to USPS Ground Advantage. Fedex's version is Ground Economy and I'm given access to that through eBay shipping. UPS's version is Ground Saver and I'm able to get those rates through stamps.com or through eBay shipping.

Neither of them give me DHL rates and it would be super expensive getting quotes straight from the DHL website with no sort of discount.

Undertakers 07-16-2026 02:39 PM

Re: USPS rural Area
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SaiJin (Post 1269463)
So fedex has the best rate now?

What I have to do for you not to try and block me. I'm having PMs conversations with some popular people on here and you come visit my page and want to end me lol
Thank in advance not trying to harm anybody

agent006140 07-16-2026 03:28 PM

Re: USPS rural Area
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by phaz0rz (Post 1269541)
Years ago but it's too expensive to use for anything small being shipped domestically. I think there's a USPS/DHL last mile partnership that still exists but I don't have any way to access that program or its rates.

Those last mile partnerships are the only competition to USPS Ground Advantage. Fedex's version is Ground Economy and I'm given access to that through eBay shipping. UPS's version is Ground Saver and I'm able to get those rates through stamps.com or through eBay shipping.

Neither of them give me DHL rates and it would be super expensive getting quotes straight from the DHL website with no sort of discount.

DHL is bigger than Fed Exp or UPS,many Europeans and Asian vendors use DHL

phaz0rz 07-16-2026 07:31 PM

Re: USPS rural Area
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by agent006140 (Post 1269550)
DHL is bigger than Fed Exp or UPS,many Europeans and Asian vendors use DHL

I don't think DHL has ever been bigger than UPS or Fedex.


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phaz0rz 07-16-2026 07:33 PM

Re: USPS rural Area
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Undertakers (Post 1269559)
I did 25 somehow they back at one. I was able to pm now I can not. My posts reset back at zero so I cannot reply back to pms

Maybe slow down a bit. It's annoying when people rush to spam 25 posts just to send a PM and it kind of defeats the purpose of having that requirement.

Undertakers 07-17-2026 03:24 AM

Re: USPS rural Area
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by phaz0rz (Post 1269563)
Maybe slow down a bit. It's annoying when people rush to spam 25 posts just to send a PM and it kind of defeats the purpose of having that requirement.

It was spread out in different groups ,different topic subjects you wouldn't even notice me. It's very annoying to spam in one place. this place not the most active with active members And you want to respond to a PM in a timely matter thats just human nature.

SaiJin 07-17-2026 08:31 AM

Re: USPS rural Area
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rsot (Post 1269557)
Looks like 25 posts anew are needed...

DUDE, STOP with this 25 post count posts.

SaiJin 07-17-2026 08:31 AM

Re: USPS rural Area
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by phaz0rz (Post 1269563)
Maybe slow down a bit. It's annoying when people rush to spam 25 posts just to send a PM and it kind of defeats the purpose of having that requirement.

If people keep doing this, I'm gonna turn on manual moderation so no matter how much you post you won't get through.


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