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So they offering now a double protection (ebay+paypal) :

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Yea I was just going to post this. Just saw it today. Beginning of the end for stealth accounts boys, better sell what you can now. Sooner than later they will make you verify everything just to get an account, because now that Ebay is going to have to pay out of pocket for mistakes, they will crack down BIG time.
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Yea I was just going to post this. Just saw it today. Beginning of the end for stealth accounts boys, better sell what you can now. Sooner than later they will make you verify everything just to get an account, because now that Ebay is going to have to pay out of pocket for mistakes, they will crack down BIG time.
Not sure why you say it's going to be the end of stealth accts? ALL of my active listings across all of my ebay accts now have this new buyer protection logo on top. And of course, all of my PayPal accts are confirmed and verified
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Meaning they will get more strict on new user. Better make 1000 ebay account now before it's too late.

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So they offering now a double protection (ebay+paypal) :

eBay Buyer Protection
Yeah but the eBay Buyer Protection is only for customers that don't pay with PayPal.

What happened to PayPal Buyer Protection?
PayPal Buyer Protection on eBay existed only for eBay customers who paid for their purchases through a PayPal account. Now purchase protection and issue resolution for your eBay purchases will be managed by eBay, for all eligible payment methods.

With eBay Buyer Protection, buyers will receive coverage for the purchase price of the item, plus original shipping. eBay Buyer Protection also introduces a new, streamlined process for customer service, so you can get help quickly either on the phone or online.

How does this program benefit sellers?
eBay Buyer Protection makes it easier for buyers and sellers to resolve issues with a new, streamlined process for customer assistance. We encourage buyers to work directly with sellers before opening a case because this is often the fastest and easiest way to resolve problems.

The new system also makes it easy for sellers to give their information to eBay. Sellers can always contact our customer support specialists to discuss their case 7 days a week, between 5:00 AM 10:00 PM Pacific Standard Time (PST).


Maybe they are getting some government regulations on there ass for having a PayPal monopoly.

Only buyers that pay with:

PayPal
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ProPay
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Moneybookers
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Paymate
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*Credit card or debit card processed through the seller's Internet merchant account

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It's on their website, here
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since ebay and paypal is in the same bed together, I really don't see how this is anything all that new. Doesn't paypal already have buyer protection? In my eyes this is all really a PR campaign for the public. Plus I don't think ebay will pay $$ out of their own pocket for a refund, they will refund the buyer from the sellers paypal account if the issue can't be resolved between the two parties. No need to freak on the issue. Nothing new under the sun here.
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since ebay and paypal is in the same bed together, I really don't see how this is anything all that new. Doesn't paypal already have buyer protection? In my eyes this is all really a PR campaign for the public. Plus I don't think ebay will pay $$ out of their own pocket for a refund, they will refund the buyer from the sellers paypal account if the issue can't be resolved between the two parties. No need to freak on the issue. Nothing new under the sun here.
Dude, can't you read?

eBay Buyer Protections are for purchases NOT PAID BUY PAYPAL. Meaning if a customer didn't use PayPal then they can not take the money out your PayPal account because you don't have one. ???? How can they take out money from a PayPal account that don't exist? This is for buyers who buy from seller that don't use PayPal read the post above yours. The money is your Merchant Account or Propay or Moneybroker account.
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Well how many people are allowed to accept any other means of payment? You can only NOT use paypal if youve already jumped through a million hoops. I mean its pretty much the reason we all have to use stealth. If it was so easy to use propay people would just say F in get a new ebay account and use propay. This whole thing is a PR stunt like cygnusx1 said. 99.999999% of the payments with be paypal with .00000001 coming from the rest of the places. Also keep in mind alot of those other payment processors are mainly used in other countries and this new policy is only for ebay US. Its the exact same policy with bells and whistles so people feel safer.

Also who says they cant take it out of your paypal. You have to have a verified paypal account to sell even if you use another payment method. So even if its propay and you lose for $200 its not like ebay cant debit it from your paypal to recoup the money and if you dont have it put you in the negative. Then once youre negative you cant sell. Pay up or you get suspended. Its not that difficult

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Yea from what I have seen Paypal is really the only form of payment now. This may be somewhat of a PR campaign but the fact is that they are cracking down. Think about it, people that create stealth accounts, get good feedback, then sell a $600.00 item, withdraw the money, then either ship a broken or different item. They get off with the money, the account is stealth, and they are home free. There is no money left in the account for Paypal to take, so Ebay has to cover the $600.00 difference. That is what I am talking about, and THAT reason is why Stealth accounts will soon enough become obsolete. However, the amount of identity theft will skyrocket.
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Well how many people are allowed to accept any other means of payment? You can only NOT use paypal if youve already jumped through a million hoops. I mean its pretty much the reason we all have to use stealth. If it was so easy to use propay people would just say F in get a new ebay account and use propay. This whole thing is a PR stunt like cygnusx1 said. 99.999999% of the payments with be paypal with .00000001 coming from the rest of the places. Also keep in mind alot of those other payment processors are mainly used in other countries and this new policy is only for ebay US. Its the exact same policy with bells and whistles so people feel safer.

Also who says they cant take it out of your paypal. You have to have a verified paypal account to sell even if you use another payment method. So even if its propay and you lose for $200 its not like ebay cant debit it from your paypal to recoup the money and if you dont have it put you in the negative. Then once youre negative you cant sell. Pay up or you get suspended. Its not that difficult
Yeah but think about it the customer don't have to use PayPal. They can pay via moneybroker and it covered by eBay buyer protection. eBay don't own moneybroker. So the decision is on moneybroker not ebay to make up the loss.

"Also who says they cant take it out of your paypal." I say, they can't take out of my PayPal because I would use PayPal for small non risky items ranging from 100USD or less and other payment processor or merchant account for larger order. IF YOU DON"T USE PAYPAL WHAT ARE THEY GOING TO FREEZE???????? Hello, not everyone on eBay use PayPal and those numbers are low.

A customer buys a iphone for lets say $600 and pays you via moneybroker. You have a paypal account you DON"T use and the balance is zero. Then another customer buy 2 iphones for $1,200 and pays with paymate. You have 600 in moneybroker and 1200 in paymate and 0 in paypal. Where is ebay going to get yout money on a chargeback?

If you new how to read it say ebay buyer protection are covered for purchases paid via paypal alternative that are ebay approved. MEANING WHEN PAYPAL IS NOT IN THE PICTURE.

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Look at it this way. Since buyer don't have to use PayPal to get protection when shopping on eBay is good news. When can get a second chance here or a break. However, they are up to something. Where the money is going to come from? It might be hard to become a seller in the future.
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I guarantee you after this new announcement they will be watching their eBay forums and this one as well to see how sellers are reacting, what they are saying, what are there views, there plans and so on?

I suggest to leave it alone but stay alert and up to date. We might have to brainstorm in secret not in public. Don't tell eBay what you know. Things like this happens because there are many scammers and bad bad sellers out there who mess things up for the good guys making a living.
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Thumbs down let the chargebacks begin

2 New paypal disputes in 24 hours - that is nice as if ebay customers weren't charge back happy as it is!?!?!?
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Yeah but think about it the customer don't have to use PayPal. They can pay via moneybroker and it covered by eBay buyer protection. eBay don't own moneybroker. So the decision is on moneybroker not ebay to make up the loss.

"Also who says they cant take it out of your paypal." I say, they can't take out of my PayPal because I would use PayPal for small non risky items ranging from 100USD or less and other payment processor or merchant account for larger order. IF YOU DON"T USE PAYPAL WHAT ARE THEY GOING TO FREEZE???????? Hello, not everyone on eBay use PayPal and those numbers are low.

A customer buys a iphone for lets say $600 and pays you via moneybroker. You have a paypal account you DON"T use and the balance is zero. Then another customer buy 2 iphones for $1,200 and pays with paymate. You have 600 in moneybroker and 1200 in paymate and 0 in paypal. Where is ebay going to get yout money on a chargeback?

If you new how to read it say ebay buyer protection are covered for purchases paid via paypal alternative that are ebay approved. MEANING WHEN PAYPAL IS NOT IN THE PICTURE.
Youre thinking too hard. Honestly how many people on here accept money through moneybookers or propay or any service besides paypal? Im gonna go with NONE why, because you cant. I actually used to use moneybookers back in the day and it was pretty good and was very well known for its security IE they used to check into problems unlike paypal (specifically because they didnt hold sellers accountable for chargebacks) so if you bought something with money bookers you can be damn sure they called and asked you questions about what you bought and all that. Also considering you need to be a powerseller to accept these alternative payment methods it really makes no difference. ok propay is now covered but if you cant accept propay then it makes no difference. the policy isnt saying you HAVE to accept these payments, its just saying they are covered. And too many people are forgetting that alot of these payment methods are actually more secure then paypal since they actually look into stuff unlike paypal so in reality it may actually work out better for sellers
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guys, please stop getting paranoid. It just means ebay will file a resolution fee against on your credit card or paypal (which ever you agreed when you signed as a seller) in case you lose a dispute. They lessen the burden from paypal and other merchant accounts.

This what ebay protection says in regards on paypal.

What happened to PayPal Buyer Protection?
PayPal Buyer Protection on eBay existed only for eBay customers who paid for their purchases through a PayPal account. Now purchase protection and issue resolution for your eBay purchases will be managed by eBay, for all eligible payment methods.

so lets say you received a complaint from ebay as not as described. Ebay will more likely to side the buyer and will reimburse the buyer of purchase. Then ebay will charge you with RESOLUTION fees.... Less strain on your paypal, unless your customer is double dipping.
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one of the easiest one is to get paymate. But beware if your ebay goes NARU, your payments not yet deposited to your account will be reversed.
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I agree, I had the same thing happen to me. But in all I like how paymate works.
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I am glad you can read bobby2000. Not every read "What happened to PayPal Buyer Protection?"
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one of the easiest one is to get paymate. But beware if your ebay goes NARU, your payments not yet deposited to your account will be reversed.
Is it possible to use paymate with many steal accounts or just 1?
I've heard people using it with suspended information and they don't seem to share information with eBay.
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I am glad you can read bobby2000. Not every read "What happened to PayPal Buyer Protection?"
really? werent you the guy flipping out like the world was gonna end
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official genius: im not really sure if paymate shares all the info with ebay. I know that you can only have 1 paymate per ssn. I do beleive you can use multipul ebay accounts with 1 paymate, the only thing is you would have to intergrate it each time you plan on using that paticular ebay to receive money, ya dig? But as to receiving money from multipul ebays at once is a no go. Ill look into it and pm you what I can find out.

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yes, it could be linked on every ebay account, but could you forecast when will ebay will suspend you, NO

once you go NARU, that paymate account is dead as well. You could make a new one and could have few succesful attempts. Just make sure dont ship anything until it lands your bank account. I learned the hard way.....
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