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SaiJin 10-22-2010 10:31 AM

Non payers can still leave negs
 
Well, got a NPB. Filed dispute, closed it, got my FVF back and 5 days later got my neg.

Contacted live chat and this is what he said:

"The buyer can still leave any Feedback even if you filed an Unpaid item case. you need to send an appeal to a specialist that is handling Feedback issue to help you further with this"

Hmm... I thought that in this situation they are blocked from leaving FB. I guess things have changed again.

ebayerOG 10-22-2010 10:35 AM

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biggest bunch of idoits going (ebay that is) why they changed all the feedback setup i dont no what aload of crap

SaiJin 10-22-2010 10:39 AM

well, I was given a link to report this feedback issue and report this buyer.
He said (live help) that I qualify to get this removed.

pod 10-22-2010 10:42 AM

Among the 20 things messed up with those guys, a buyer being able to buy, not pay, and leave negative feedback is absolutely absurd. They are leaving feedback on something that never happened. There was no transaction, so what can they give feedback on?

Just absurd

SaiJin 10-22-2010 10:50 AM

well this one says that it's a mistake and he doesn't want it.
Never even responded to my NPB claim.

pod 10-22-2010 10:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SaiJin (Post 176246)

it's a mistake and he doesn't want it.

So why neg?? I say BS. Deliberate neg.

SaiJin 10-22-2010 11:17 AM

well. according to the live help, I qualify it to get removed by the FB specialist.
So he gave me a link to a form.

either way, I don't care what his excuse is. I just want this neg removed.

I'm just surprised that this buyer can still leave any fgeedbacks

dburnside 10-22-2010 11:21 AM

yes you will get it removed, unfortunately they can do it in first place tho

SaiJin 10-22-2010 11:23 AM

sigh.. wasted 30 minutes of my time on this. Well, cost of doing biz right?

The stealth guide truly has helped me this time with my set up.... again.

luna 10-22-2010 12:21 PM

yes you will get it removed
 
You will get it removed had the same problem once. You just have to ask for feeback reversal due to non paying and they will do it. and yes never reply to neg. FB if you want it to be removed. otherwise you can not as soon as you have replied to it!!!!!

Quote:

Originally Posted by SaiJin (Post 176254)
well. according to the live help, I qualify it to get removed by the FB specialist.
So he gave me a link to a form.

either way, I don't care what his excuse is. I just want this neg removed.

I'm just surprised that this buyer can still leave any fgeedbacks


lostsub 10-22-2010 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SaiJin (Post 176246)
well this one says that it's a mistake and he doesn't want it.
Never even responded to my NPB claim.

That's news to me. I was under the impression that if the buyer didn't respond and the NPB was closed, then at that point no NEG could be left.
Of course I figured that even if the buyer responded by telling you to go jump in a lake, that he would be free to leave a NEG anytime. Hard to figure out Ebay sometimes.....but I still just TRY to remind myself that all sellers have the same problems.

SaiJin 10-22-2010 01:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by luna (Post 176274)
You will get it removed had the same problem once. You just have to ask for feeback reversal due to non paying and they will do it. and yes never reply to neg. FB if you want it to be removed. otherwise you can not as soon as you have replied to it!!!!!

Eh? Well, I replied to it. That shouldn't make it "cannot" be removed though...
Or is it diff in eB canada?

isitworththestress 10-22-2010 01:53 PM

An NPB buyer can also go and make a claim to ebay about item not received or not as described, and I have had it done to me in the past.

The ebay system is insane and I would love a joint of what they are smoking when they come up with the stuff they are coming up with, at least then I would be too stoned to care what damage they have done to my account.

When you request the removal what happens to the DSRs will they be removed also?

pod 10-22-2010 04:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by isitworththestress (Post 176291)

I would love a joint of what they are smoking when they come up with the stuff they are coming up with

Their objective is clear. All buyers, every single one of them, has to be happy and safe. At any cost to seller. They are convinced that buyers confidence carries all the weight in a successful eBay. Their mind set is we will sell no matter what. So keeping buyers giddy is job one....

They are obviously important for sure. But not to the degree that they get to run around in a lawless environment. And that's what its become. They ONLY reason its not total buyer scam central is there are still honest people out there just shopping....

needhelpplease 10-22-2010 04:54 PM

The only way a Non Paying Bidder/winner can leave a negative feedback comment is if the strike that gets placed on their account is removed via "asking" ebay to remove the unpaid item strike. Not sure how many times they allow a non paying bidder to have a strike removed, but that is the only way they are still allowed to leave a negative comment. And now the only "response" choice a buyer has to a non paying dispute is TO PAY or NOT TO PAY.

SaiJin 10-22-2010 05:47 PM

Hmm... Interesting. I'm going to ask live chat if that were the case in this situation.

luna 10-22-2010 05:48 PM

no I think it is not only canada. if you reply it can not be removed. I have to find the email from ebay that they sent me. thats why I never reply anymore and file straight for reversal
Quote:

Originally Posted by SaiJin (Post 176283)
Eh? Well, I replied to it. That shouldn't make it "cannot" be removed though...
Or is it diff in eB canada?


pod 10-22-2010 05:51 PM

So if I understand correctly:

If you file NPB they cant leave feedback unless they go out of their way and ask eBay to remove strike? [Is that easy for buyer to do?]

And if you reply to negative feedback at that point it wont be removed for NPB?

Quote:

Originally Posted by needhelpplease (Post 176333)
And now the only "response" choice a buyer has to a non paying dispute is TO PAY or NOT TO PAY.

So are you saying an end to neg feedback from deadbeats? [and bogus competitors]

SaiJin 10-22-2010 05:57 PM

Luna... are you truly sure about this? I have seen eB remove negs even after it's being replied on. They just remove the reply as well.

isitworththestress 10-22-2010 06:02 PM

So what reason can they give to have the NPB strike removed?

SaiJin 10-22-2010 07:51 PM

No reason. Buyer can just ask for it. Yes, "ask" . Nothing more, nothing less.

pod 10-22-2010 07:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SaiJin (Post 176374)
No reason. Buyer can just ask for it. Yes, "ask" . Nothing more, nothing less.

There must be something a buyer can do wrong. At lease ONE thing. I cant think of it right now, but there has to be one...


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