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eBay account suspension? We have the solution - L o b b a y . c o m

just noticed they started adsense advertising for all the ebay suspension keywords.

I think they are the same people that ran that trogdor or whatever it was called site, had the same types of "packages"

200$ for a 180 day old account lol...
and 50$ for a fully verified account...

virtual credit cards for 20$ non reloadable, single use...wow... rip off.

i hope anyone whos searching for info on them finds this forum first...

yes sure... you are the right one to talk! you are advertising your own ebook, and you are saying they are scams! all ebook sellers scammers, I spent over 100$ when I got suspended to get to know what were my solutions. It was the same BS mashed in a different way!

I will report your thread! :p spammer!

No wonder you would say that. We can see from your signature link that you are selling an EBAY PAYPAL ebook on suspensions. This is the reason why you are building these FALSE ALLEGATIONS against LOBBAY.COM .

This is KIM from the LIVE CHAT SUPPORT from lobbay.com . The site has been open for less than 3 hours when this person right here created this thread just to raise up his sales, since we are his competitors.

I invite all the people who read this thread, to take some time to visit lobbay.com , have a small chat with me on the LIVE SUPPORT and contact us via email or via LIVE chat for any questions you may have.

eBay account suspension? We have the solution - L o b b a y . c o m This is our blog on the site, you can visit it at anytime to share your experience.


As for this person who started this thread here, I feel sorry for him if his sales are low due to our good expertise in serving our customers. We have never built any trashing campaign on any site, just to raise up our sales. And we find it really childish to spread negative and false information on the net just in order to be successful. It's simply a bad strategy.


To all the people who are reading this message here, this is KIM for LOBBAY.COM LIVE CHAT SUPPORT. If you find any negative comments, any negative posts, any blogs stating anything about our site, you can contact us via email or via LIVE CHAT on LOBBAY.COM , and you can give us the URL of the page where the negative comments or feedback is given, and we will take care of verifying its legitimacy.

We also want to let you know that in order to make sure that an allegation against us is based on real personal experience, we always ask the person that is complaining to provide us with his ORDER ID and we will work 100% to fix up his issues.

Most of these internet trashers are on the net only to create rumors and ⊗⊗⊗⊗ allegations so they can be more successful, and we are working closely with the customers and the people in order to fix the issues for the people who have real problems, or destroy the credibility of the people who are just posting ⊗⊗⊗⊗ info (such as this person in this thread here).

NO ORDER-ID means DID NOT ORDER FROM US, DO NOT KNOW US, AND IS ONLY POSTING ON THE NET TO CREATE A HYPE for his own SITE.

Thank you for your time reading this message,
Feel free to visit us anytime on eBay account suspension? We have the solution - L o b b a y . c o m .

Kim
CS Live Chat Support
Lobbay.com

hahaha
lol


wow..
jesus christ.

the people that run the site, with 0 posts come here and talk back to me.. at least i have a proven record on here, ask lots of people. you just made a random site, put some bs info, and now come trash talking to me.. nice. good rep for your site.

Greetings,

I am paid to sit on forums and do live chat to attack these allegations that people like you throw here and there to boost themselves. We could say the same thing about your ebook and say that you putting together "bs" (as you call it). We have good reviews building up slowly all over the net. And we do also have negative feedback, I wouldn't deny it, but the source of it is from people such as yourself that waste our time and their time. You are entitled to your own opinion, but you are not entitled to say that we are "scammers" since you don't even know us. Be reasonable.

Kim
CS Live Chat Support
Lobbay.com

you guys should settle this in a steel cage retirement match, winner gets to sell their ebook while the loser vanishes from the internet

MissKim...

Before you start posting here, perhaps you should read more and see that you are attacking a very respected person on this board when you say these things to IvegotInfo.

I never meant, and I never attacked, I am doing my job. I defended.
With all the respect to ivegotinfo, he is the one who attacked us and I had no choice but to reply.

Ivegotinfo helped me out big, so maybe like others said, try checking out what your talking about first.

MissKim...do you charge for help on your site?

If so, what services do you offer and what are the fees. Do you have 100% guarantees on the services you offer?

we probably should too, quebec is only a few hours from where i am :)

Why are you on here anyway??? All you need to do is join this forum, do a few weeks of reading and researching and you can be back on ebay at your own hands, not some coporate stealth account company. All the info is shared here, you may need some trial and error but its here. I checked out your website, discounts of 50% on packages???? now whos desperate to sell or promote their site?????

When I first read MissKim's post, I thought it might be MissHanson. LOL.
Maybe that's where he is now?

Is your site related to either Troydes.com or Bashar.ca ?

I reckon. At the bottom of their page there is mention of their other domain
names and those two are quoted.

Greetings,

I do appreciate and respect the effort that our fellow member ivegotinfo is investing on this forum. We never knew about this forum until a customer referred us to this thread. You can see it from my registration date. I am strictly not here to promote our website, this is not my job, the marketing team takes care of this aspect. My job is to reply to these false statements.

Troydes and Bashar are also websites that are owned by us, by the same corporation, they also had their reputation attacked widely, and especially by some small websites selling ebooks, and MAINLY by eBay staff that attacked us from all different aspects: trademark problems, financially, and legally. The corporation never had anyone replying to these false allegations. They decided lately to consecrate a department to surf the internet and take care of the false allegations.

We did a 6 months investigation on all the negativity spread on the internet and we ended up verifying the satisfaction of all of our customers one by one. The administration took all means to satisfy the couple of customers that weren't completely satisfied, (and by the way unsatisfied customers rarely come spread negative feedback on forums, they only leave their complaints via email and phone until we fix their problem).
The majority of the negative feedback is still from people who never purchased our services, and never tested our customer support.
The administration decided to defend the corporation website by consecrating people like me on forums where false statements are left.

We are completely aware of the feedback left for troydes and bashar, and this is why I am paid for, to prove to you that every problem that you have, every complaint or concern that pops out, we are ready to fix it and take care of it to the fullest. You have the best example today, saying that our website is scam, while it's absolutely not. If we wouldn't answer to these allegations, the same will happen with this domain's reputation. The same happened in the past with the other domains.

If we let everyone say that we are a "scam", then everyone will believe it. This is why I was referred today to this thread. I want to be clear on this point, because we do not want the same people again saying the same false statements, and then accuse us of "scamming".

Be assured that we will do everything in our means to clear our reputation, and be assured that we will never ever attack the reputation of any other website, blog, forum or company.

My Best Regards,

Kim

MissKim

Where are you guys from? Can you put the appropriate country flag on your profile please? Thanks

THATS WHO i was thinking of! jeez those 2 totally slipped my mind.
these guys are the same people, so everyone can judge for themselves.
If you really did change your business plan, then you really have a lot of crap to dig out of as anyone who has been around long enough knows what those 2 sites were.

NOBODY (in their right mind) would spread false info, bullcrap and put false things out about a system that works.
troydes and bashar had so much crap about them that as you said it you had to totally abandon that entire "brand name"
you don't see anyone putting bad stuff in ebooks and other sites about this forum..why? because everything people talk about here works 110%.

they're from canada, Quebec to be exact.

Seems extreme to have a paid employee just for searching for negative posts on forums. Why bother - wouldn't it be easier to start fresh and not associate with the old names? None of this is making sense to me. Way too intense.

Greetings,

Ivegotinfo you are entitled to your own opinion. It seems that you are the only one who is so disturbed by this corporation. You stated that this website is "scam" without even knowing who it was. This is a good enough proof that you accused us of scamming while you didn't know who it was. Yes the corporation has been doing business since very long and our systems got developed over time. Our solutions work very fine.

I am sure you never tried any of our solutions, you are here trying to prove a point that doesn't have a sustainable argument. If you would have been an unsatisfied customer, we would have longed contacted you and helped you out with your situation. Second of all, you really think that our company has been online with only bad and negative feedback? Sure, we've been doing business just to upset everyone, and be some kind of a "scam" service as you call it. You think that we only saw the negative feedback online? We've seen also lots of positive feedback. What you are stating is completely biased, you want to look at something, then look at it in its whole.
Don't just pick the negative feedback spread by some other websites selling ebooks, and some ebay employees trying to harm the website's solutions.

If our solutions wouldn't work, we wouldn't be online now, and I wouldn't have this conversation with you. It seems that you only want to promote yourself over everyone around here. I won't reply to your allegations anymore since it seems that you are the only person selling an eBay service over here, and you are bothered by this website.
You are not stating any real situation where you had huge complications with us, and we "scammed" you and never helped you.

I think this conversation should end over here.

If you have a sudden change of heart and decide to test our services, then we will be glad to help you.

Regards,

Kim

im promoting myself eh..? in what post exactly did you see me promote anything of mine? other than a link to my book in my sig?

im just giving everyone a heads up since a lot of the people that visit this forum are newbies looking for help and with a history like you have, its nothing to be proud of.

if your solutions didnt work, you still would be here, this is the internet...

do you have any testimonials of your services? any happy customers?

look if your service was great and awesome, i wouldn't bash it. but since i dont see any good track record..what would you want me and everyone else to think then?

Frankly, MissKim, you are the one with problems. A very respected member of
this forum, who is known AND trusted made a post about another company.
He gave us a link to read ourselves. You on the other hand, joined, made several
neutral posts then wham bam, you belong to the company and we are all stupid
for reading Ivegotinfo's posts. Just what have you offered that we might use
that will work? You are too negative in your manner. JMHO

lobbay is selling eBay accounts, ivegotinfo is selling an eBook.

what's with the fight, you guys? sorry, i don't understand it.

ok lets end it here.
if you are so legitimate and perfect and amazing, i will say sorry here on the forum for bashing you - after you show me some proof. if not, then go away pls.

the reason we're "fighting" is not because of who is selling what, but about what this companys track record is - im just giving a heads up to anyone who wants to use them in the future.

ivegotinfo has never tried to promote his book here. i knew he has one for sale, but on here he offers advice and knowledge to others, and everyone else does it in return. misskim if you guys had a good service it would speak for it's self and they wouldn't need to pay someone to try and change peoples minds about you. and also why would i pay for your services when i could get all of this info here for free or for a very tiny donation?

MissKim, Hi.. if your drop dead gorgeous and worth one.. i apologise.. but as your most likely NOT!, i retract the apology..

I have flicked through your website, and the packages you offer.. fair enough, if there's a market, by all means do as you please.. no-one here, has ever tried, or implied that we should pay for anything that in all honesty, is free information and readily shared here..

Most of the replies to your "Site" etc.. have been short, informed, and polite... Wish i was the same. but i shall just say what most posters here are more than likely thinking.....

MissKim.....get lost

Many thanks...

They could be real, and should be real.. I see nothing illigitimate in their offer.. A complete package so to speak..

There goes any further credibility you ever thought you might have. Sounding like a 5 year old doesen't help.

Ok so its better someone spending 100$ on an account that might get closed in 2 days, or spend 20$ on a single use "virtual" credit card with no funds on it!?!?!
OR come here on the forum, learn all the info for free and then open an unlimited amount of accounts and know how to use them so that they will last them for a long time? It's that whole "give a man a fish and he will eat for a day, teach him to fish and he will eat for life". Exact same principle.

I wouldnt have that big of a problem if these guys were actually only legitimately selling accounts, but judging by their past - that's not the case. If they did change, then like i said they have a hell of a lot of cleaning up to do.

Nah.. See, you came here, copied info, and pasted it into your eBook.


Now you're selling it.. That's just your competition and you want to get rid of it.. That other guy knows how to advertise good. You do not.



This whole thread you started is solely for advertising.. Basically you want us the sheep to compare that to you..


I don't think it's honest of you to say that guy is out to scam us.. Especially you....

Speaking of credibility..

You said credibility there.. That's a feudian slip.. This whole post you made is to boost your credibility, by warning people about something, and also to destroy your competition...

So you are accomplishing right now:

A) Advertising your product.

B) Raising value of your product over that of competition.

C) Destory competition's credibility.

D) Raising your own credibility.



Why would anyone want to buy your product again? Ohh that's right, you have a better version of advice found on these forums!! Totally worst my $15..


Give us a favor.. Offer us a group buy at discount. That way we can read your better copy & paste version of this forum, and save money at the same time! Come on dude, do that for us. It be awesome.

Mr wolf, if you want to slag off ivegotinfo then do keep it to one thread instead of 2 threads in a row.

If you didn't notice, nearly every ebook online is just information "copied" from elsewhere. Only rarely will you find an ebook with a totally new solution or method for something.

Leave the guy alone. If he wants to make money from distributing information similar to on this forum, then let him do it.

I'm sure if you were making money from doing just that you wouldn't be the one complaining.

Alright.. I'll edit my post..

HI:
Just my 2 cents..

Dont know what Ivegotinfo sells or not..
I can tell you this Factually--Ever Since he's been here, he's been nothing but a Gentleman, and goes out of his way to help others..
He's taken forwarded pms from me, for folks needing help in Canada, and helped those folks, with good, sound advice.
-- I then normally get a pm back from the source, thanking me for referring them to Ivegotinfo.
Again... Judge on the merits.. not the "here says".. :)

ok wolf, judging how you are just a random person who doesen't mean anything, i am not even going to reply to your useless posts. i could write a big post, but nah. i can make better use of my time. i dont need to reaffirm myself or prove myself to you.

Mr_Wolf is Chris Hanson.

I'm living 20km away from them! I'm actually thinking about paying them a visite to see what their compagny looks like lol.

Hahahaha...


If that was the case you wouldn't need to explain yourself either..


Nah, I wasn't harsh enough on you previously.. You copy and pasted your stuff, and that new guy you are saying is a scammer actually has it going for him better than you..


ivegotinfo has absolutely no basis to say that they are scammers.. Of course, saying that they are scammers brings attention to his own business..



I bet ivegotinfo and that site are the same person.. He just made a bummy company to advertise his stuff.. His COPY and PASTE stuff..

definately, its been pretty obvious...MissKim too...good job at acting like a newbie Chris.

yeah wolf has to be hanson. talks the same arrogant way.

its probably a p.o. box lol