| |  | | | hooray | 04-19-2008 06:23 PM | eBay Might Sell Skype and PayPal?! Read this on Digg. I hope this day will come... but I doubt they will sell PayPal, Skype maybe. Quote:
Ebay considers sale of Skype subsidiary
By Richard Waters in San Francisco
Thursday Apr 17 2008 13:00
Ebay will consider selling off its Skype internet phone subsidiary at the end of this year if it fails to find ways to use the fast-growing service to support its core e-commerce business, according to the company's chief executive.
The comments from John Donahoe, who took over at the end of last month, are the most direct indication yet that Ebay is thinking of scrapping the ill-starred acquisition. It paid $3.1bn, but wrote down the value of the business by $1.4bn last year after concluding it would not match earlier hopes.
Ebay originally believed that Skype would oil the wheels of its online markets by making communications easier between buyers and sellers, while also supporting new business models such as "click to call". Nearly three years after the acquisition, however, Ebay has yet to prove Skype can help its other businesses.
"What we're testing this year are the synergies," Mr Donahoe told the Financial Times this week after Ebay reported its latest earnings. "If the synergies are strong, we'll keep it in our portfolio. If not, we'll reassess it." That could lead to the disposal of the business, he indicated.
While the acquisition of Skype has widely come to be seen as a blunder for Ebay, the phone service itself has continued to grow fast, adding another 33m registered users in the first three months of this year to reach 309m. Although most use it for free internet phone calls, the addition of extra paid services helped Skype to increase its revenues to $126m in the first three months of this year, up 61 per cent from the year before.
"What we know is, Skype is a great stand-alone business," Ebay's CEO said. Its revenues this year are set to top $500m and the service will be profitable, he added.
Meanwhile, Mr Donahoe moved to silence suggestions that have started to circulate in Silicon Valley and on Wall Street that Ebay should also consider selling its PayPal division to boost its flagging share price.
With revenues running at an annualised $2.3bn and a growth rate of more than 30 per cent, the online payment service has enjoyed consistently higher growth than Ebay's core e-commerce operations and some bankers speculate it could be worth as much as $20bn as a standalone company, or almost half of Ebay's total stock market value. With much of its growth coming from handling payments that do not take place on Ebay, PayPal has less strategic reason to remain part of the group.
Mr Donahoe said there were still strong advantages to keeping PayPal in Ebay and that he expected to continue to own the payment service "for many years".
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| ebayaintstupid | 04-19-2008 06:28 PM | Skype was a huge mistake for EBAY... because people don't want to do face to face customer service, which is what EBAY originally thought.
I think most people do their EBAYing in their PJs, not in a suit and tie. LOL.
They will never sell Paypal. That is the real money maker and manipulation tool. |
| aspkin | 04-19-2008 06:46 PM | I thought I read something about Google going to buy skype. That was a couple weeks ago, I'm not sure if its going through or not. |
| ebayaintstupid | 04-19-2008 06:55 PM | Shoot, there were rumors about Google buying EBAY... why would they? They have everything they need to make an EBAY.
Within a year or two, they will have GBAY. But they are taking the slow path, which is smart because dealing with all the fraud and other nonsense is expensive.
The primary thing they need to restore is safe listing with anonymity. People that auction items aren't Walmart. They want their privacy. It was what, at one time, made EBAY great.
All GBAY has to do is come up with a way to guarantee safe buyer/seller exchange (not easy at all), proper feedback (again hard) and anonymous transfer of goods. And they have a HUGE WINNER!!! |
| GreenBean | 04-19-2008 07:03 PM | |
| ebayaintstupid | 04-19-2008 07:11 PM | Doncha worry that all these sights that claim to protect us... are among the prime sights with an incentive to infect us?
I don't like the idea that some company can scan my computer too easily. Once they are on my machine, they can send data out from my machine.
It is why I NEVER allow Active X Controls to be downloaded. But even Java Applets can get you to a degree.
So much spying is going on. I hate worrying about it. But EBAY and Paypal alerted us to it big time. |
| jscan | 04-19-2008 09:35 PM | even if they did sell skype, it doesnt make much difference to me. |
| Thechronicles | 04-19-2008 09:52 PM | i wudnt buy paypal, my highest offer is 99 cents
not a penny more, if they sell it no one is going to use it to accept payments on ebay, people only do right now because they have to, and for obvious reasons like protection etc. blah blah blah. |
| jscan | 04-19-2008 10:05 PM | id rather buy western union, $22 is the average charge for a transfer. what a ripppp |
| Thechronicles | 04-19-2008 10:09 PM | lol i agree with jscan |
| ebayaintstupid | 04-19-2008 10:25 PM | I'd like to own them both... shoot. I hate Paypal, and I might change the way it was managed, but it is worth billions. And to date, it is the ONLY growth vehicle for EBAY.
Paypal is what continually beats expectations. That is why they are forcing it down our throats now.
But that only works so long... |
| Thechronicles | 04-19-2008 10:27 PM | does anyone know when google is planing to launch their auction website? |
| Thechronicles | 04-19-2008 10:28 PM | btw when google does launch its website and they will, everyone will forget about ebay.
its only a matter of time and ebay knows it, thats why there going so hard to get every penny in their pockets as possible. |
| ebayaintstupid | 04-19-2008 10:34 PM | I think they are at least a year or two away. It is hard to get it down so people will trust your site.
Google Base is the platform. Google is the search engine. Google Checkout is the Paypal.
All you need is an auction front end and Google Engineers could come up with that in a week-end.
But they are still learning the customer support and fraud issues involved. And the fact that the initial people they draw will be those that cannot get on EBAY anymore.
I will tell you one thing. If GBAY does arrive and proves a success. I will be the absolute best doobee on their site I can be no matter what they request I do. I think many feel the same way.
The hope is they will be better. But I am not so sure. |
| Thechronicles | 04-19-2008 10:50 PM | wow, it will take them 1-2 more years?
they said they plan on releasing a auction website 3 years ago |
| jscan | 04-20-2008 12:07 AM | patience is what we need, the chronicles we should count our pennies and make a bid on western union. lolssss |
| Thechronicles | 04-20-2008 09:07 AM | well i hope they launch it soon, i just cant wait
=) |
| mantisinc | 04-20-2008 10:27 AM | Oh comeon, I don't believe they will sell paypal. After all the years promoting it as part of eBay, and now making it compulsory in several countries, they won't sell up.
As for skype, I don't use it, so couldn't give a dam really. |
| Thechronicles | 04-20-2008 11:20 AM | im really surprised that skype's revenue is so high. |
| GreenBean | 04-20-2008 05:24 PM | It is surprising about skype's revenue. Their services sux. And after I found out that ebay
was their guardian, I disposed of their services quickly. |
| Thechronicles | 04-20-2008 06:06 PM | i remember a LONG TIME AGO when ebay was a respectable name. |
| Jonas | 04-22-2008 01:19 AM | GreenBean, yeah I wonder how many people quit skype because ebay bought them. |
| hooray | 04-23-2008 02:00 AM | Quote:
Originally Posted by Jonas
(Post 37400)
GreenBean, yeah I wonder how many people quit skype because ebay bought them. | I did. I'm using Gizmo Project now... not as good as skype but international calls are 0.003 cheaper.. :| |
| 411guru | 04-23-2008 10:47 AM | ebay should behead Meg Whitman for helping them lose $1.7 BILLON dollars by buyin skype. Yet she just resigns lol.
I actually heard paypal loses money. That is why they freeze accounts for no reason sometimes just to earn interest.
Where did you guys hear that google is going to start an auction site? Personally I don't think it will be a good business move for google. Hell why don't they just buy ebay like they bought youtube. |
| NowWhat | 04-23-2008 02:45 PM | i HAVE CONFIDENTIAL IN FORMATION |
| Thechronicles | 04-23-2008 02:48 PM | ebay, could make soo much more money, if they just open their eyes and start treating their customers as humans and not retards. |
| NowWhat | 04-23-2008 02:49 PM | There is confidential information that Google has an operative deep in Ebay who is obtaining all the info EB has on US (and other suspendeds) so that they can keep us off GoogleBay from the beginning. Also that one of the EB spies here on the forum secretly reports to Google. |
| Thechronicles | 04-23-2008 02:54 PM | thats crazy, were did you get that from? |
| GreenBean | 04-23-2008 04:04 PM | Oh Sure Hilarious. It is not confidential now. Do I sense ATF here or DEA? Away to check with my operatives in the CIA. ROFL.;) |
| Thechronicles | 04-23-2008 05:17 PM | lol, that is incorrect info.
did you forget google and ebay hate each other, info. = money
why would either help the other one out when both companys want to make as much money as possible? |
| 411guru | 04-23-2008 07:52 PM | Quote:
Originally Posted by ESTEBANWT
(Post 37693)
There is confidential information that Google has an operative deep in Ebay who is obtaining all the info EB has on US (and other suspendeds) so that they can keep us off GoogleBay from the beginning. Also that one of the EB spies here on the forum secretly reports to Google. | Umm smoke more weed? Not impossible, but improbable. I'd crap a brick if google really makes an auction site. Just because google made it doesnt mean it will kill ebay. I mean look at google video. They made that to kill youtube. But it sucked so they just bought youtube.
Hey, maybe if google auction sucked they'll just be like screw it, lets buy ebay. lollllllllllll |
| Thechronicles | 04-23-2008 07:59 PM | word, if they bought ebay, they would def. change alot of the rules and what not, but i rather google start from scratch with no records of anything. |
| NowWhat | 04-23-2008 08:12 PM | Quote:
Originally Posted by ESTEBANWT
(Post 37693)
There is confidential information that Google has an operative deep in Ebay who is obtaining all the info EB has on US (and other suspendeds) so that they can keep us off GoogleBay from the beginning. Also that one of the EB spies here on the forum secretly reports to Google. |
nO REALLY. mY EX-BROTHER IN LAW WHEN TO cia TRAINING - BUT DID'T LAST. Now he does industrial espionage for Google undercover in eBay. Do you doubt that? |
| Thechronicles | 04-23-2008 08:16 PM | its highly unlikely, atleast thats what i think
why would google want anything to do with ebay and samething the other way around?
they are both 2 huge companies that are competing against eachother, why they would team up now beats me. |
| ebayaintstupid | 04-23-2008 08:28 PM | Thing is, I would respect GBAY or any other operator to the max Shoot I even respected EBAY up until they suspended me indefinitely, for, get this, accepting Google Checkout.
It would be stupid to try to keep people alienated by EBAY off of GBAY if it came to being.
That is another flea.
I am feeling the itch folks. Fleas. Darned fleas. |
| NowWhat | 04-24-2008 07:00 PM | If EB sold PP because of low profitability, they might well do so under terms which continue the cooperation they now have. | | All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:38 AM. | |
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