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Roscoe 01-27-2013 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by stanislav (Post 414962)
I heard Facebook campaigns sometimes are even better than Google. Is it true ?

FB is a marketers dream. No site on the planet has traffic that is more "targeted" than FB. They collect more data on members than any other site.

That's why I don't FB personally. FB is very dangerous in regards to identity theft.

But for marketers, it's a dream come true. I know several marketers who earn over 1 Million per month from FB.

FB marketing is completely different from Google. Members go there to socialize, not buy stuff. People search Google to buy stuff, not socialize.

If you have the right product FB can be amazing.

stanislav 01-27-2013 11:51 PM

Yes this is correct. I have a friend who does marketing on Facebook for big companies. He bought apartment within 4 month because he made a lot of money. I guess Facebook is good to sell intangible products like ebooks , ringtones etc ...

GhostWhoWalks 01-28-2013 04:26 AM

Hey Stan glad to see you got it worked out.

I was going to ask you for this sellers store link but then again. It's rude to ask on this site what category you sell or what your competition sales so I didn't want to butt in. I was going to write too you that "SEO" is probably the KEY! And I was thinking maybe you are a new seller but then I seen you had over 700 posts and over 80 thanks by other members so I figured you already have a lot of exp and many stealth accounts. So the only thing I could think of is SEO and then you finally found it. Proud of you Stan! :)

I can look at my competition and see why they are making more sales then me, but I want to take things really slow. I have a lot of competition at least over 125 of them! There are months I sold only 40 and some months 165. TRS gives me more sales. But also what really gave me that TRS was doing some SEO work I found from other sellers and did it with my account and it worked. But really glad you found out the reason. And him doing 100 sales vs your 1 sale per day is really a lot! You might spend 40 items per day just to pay off google for keywords and the 60 other products are profits. Who knows I don't know, up too you to find out. Me personally I seen that ebay offers enough traffic for my category. I did find my competitions website and did a search on them, with SEO skills I learned and those website bring them 0 views! Maybe 1 or 3 per month in sales = nothing to worry about!

So now you know what to do. But who knows if it's worth it or not to do what his doing and so on. No idea, not my product, I don't know the profit margin, that's up too you really good luck on it.

One thing that I read on here that I liked was you saying you can get stuff out of China. I am very worried about getting stuff from China as in who too trust and then I read stories on here about people losing items due to post office and others stealing it and so on. I wanted to ask you a tip on how to find someone TRUST WORTHY out there in China. I plan to go to Hong Kong for any business out of China. I read if you are white like we both are they'll jack up the prices on us! So that's going to suck. But yeah you seem to find it, must take a lot of time and work with resach any tips on how to find good suppliers out of China?

Also there are tips and tricks too use to drop the price for a bit to get more sales for 1 auction, then once you have sold about 100 or 200 of these items move the price up by .20 cents each week it will build you up. ;) That's one SEO trick I seen my competition do! There are tons more SEO tricks that I don't want to share on the open forums really. I got on the front page within 2.5 months wasn't a lot of hard work, but just took time to get pu there. I lost front page when I stopped a SEO trick I learned on my own. And I use to get 5 to 12 sales per day from just 1 auction then I took down the SEO trick and only got about 2 sales per month! I didn't drop the price I just offered 50% more of my product to people for the same price after 3 months. I dropped the amount product and still sold, but when I stopped a SEO trick it all dropped! I didn't care really too me it's just a test to see if it works or not.

Yeah 900 a day is really a lot now. I was thinking 100. But 900 is really a lot! I would say a lot of accounts but then again drop the price, but his way of getting traffic is SEO to his website then traffic to his ebay account! If I had traffic to the site I wouldn't put them on ebay I would keep it to my site with less fees and problems! There are sites stan if you want, I can give you 1 site to show you all the links he has all over the web pointing too his website only. PM me if you wish to have it. I know you will! :P It will even tell you what rank his website is in the world and so on. I use it for everything! If they post it on the forums you'll know what one it's on.

Roscoe is my favorite memeber on this site along with GB! But Roscoe is right, use those free ways of earning extra traffic to extra profits and use the profits to make a good campaign! I only started out with $2500 invested for ebay and got $25k in sales in 12 months and expand my products and items. But I don't pay out of my own pocket. As you said you can get stuff from china! Maybe find another way of making more money with other items until you can build up very well with traffic on ebay from other items to point at 1 auction so you can sell maybe 40 or 60 per day until you can figure out a better way. Or have enough money to do what the other guy selling 900 a day is doing!

That blend video was so funny, it will sell because you see the MAFIA NEEDS IT! :) lol

I have seen a lot of products on youtube make things sell very well, just depends on what really.

Try paying someone on facebook Stan who has 5+ million fans to post a picture of your product with your website or auction on it and people will click the like button on it! And you'll get tons of views from it. I wouldn't waste my time on fb personally for my stuff I would just rather pay someone who already has the traffic on a fan page! Unless it's a product people can keep coming back too you for more! You can make a fan page Stan for FB! Without personal information being given away! Another reason to love Rocoe he knows people who made a million per month thanks to FB I am still trying to figure this one out lol.
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And also Stan, maybe try getting 20 sellers to resell for you and you just pay them 10% or 15% profits. And all you do is "package and ship" until you build up your SEO website like they have.

GhostWhoWalks 01-28-2013 04:29 AM

I sent you a PM check it out.

bruceuk 01-28-2013 04:40 AM

I calculated in Nov last year my facebook and twitter accs generated 30% of that months turnover.
BUT they are directed to our website not ebay.
Was really hard going at first and i ended up buying an amount of followers and likes to start the ball rolling but it turned out to be well worth it.

GhostWhoWalks 01-28-2013 04:43 AM

Very nice I should kind of do the same! In the near future putting a note with all my sales for facebook page like or twitter and offer daily tips!

GhostWhoWalks 01-28-2013 04:44 AM

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Originally Posted by stanislav (Post 415009)
Yes this is correct. I have a friend who does marketing on Facebook for big companies. He bought apartment within 4 month because he made a lot of money. I guess Facebook is good to sell intangible products like ebooks , ringtones etc ...

Have your friend do some for you! :)

GreenBean 01-28-2013 04:47 AM

Networking......

Go where you must to get what you want

:juggle:

GhostWhoWalks 01-28-2013 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by stanislav (Post 414714)
LOL! You are talking to me like I started selling on eBay a few days ago. I didn't ask you to criticize me. I have now 4 Power Seller Top Rated eBay accounts. There is more to just fast shipping, high quality and the amount of feedbacks you have. These top power sellers with 50,000 feedbacks are getting their traffic from somewhere else is what I am saying here. You can have the best looking listing and provide best service to your customers but if you cannot generate traffic you cannot sell as many products (not even close) as some of these sellers do.

Also stan from my understanding. Ebay gives you a discount if you bring traffic from outside to make a sale! You didn't know about this one did ya?

They pay less fees also! Plus ebay offers power sellers pension plan! So maybe it's why they are doing it like this.

imjustme 01-28-2013 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by stanislav (Post 414941)
No I am not wrong. I wish I was though. In order to sell a lot you cannot rely on TOP SELLER ACCOUNT alone, good graphics, description etc... You need to advertise your store outside of eBay to bring more traffic. This is what sets apart Top Rated Power Sellers who make millions of dollars every year versus another Top Rated seller who makes under 50 grand.

Well, I guess it depends on the product you're selling. For me, I'm doing almost more than I can handle without paying for any advertising to drive outside traffic to the listings. Keep in mind that advertisements don't mean that someone will end up buying it. On the contrary, they may go to your listing first and then end up buying someone else's, especially if they're shown "similar items from other sellers" by eBay.

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Originally Posted by stanislav (Post 414942)
You can't tell me that just because their product shows up on the first page it makes such a big difference.

Yes, it actually does. How many times have you gone onto Google's page 2 of search results? I can't remember the last time I have. The same goes with eBay. Most buyers will find what they're looking for on page 1. With my Top-Rated accounts, I get 160-200 page views in the last 24 hours. With my Above Standard account, I get 15-20 page views in the last 24 hours. The difference is HUGE. Now, it's up to you if you want to believe it or not.

Roscoe 01-28-2013 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by GhostWhoWalks (Post 415134)
Also stan from my understanding. Ebay gives you a discount if you bring traffic from outside to make a sale! You didn't know about this one did ya?

They pay less fees also!

Plus ebay offers power sellers pension plan! So maybe it's why they are doing it like this.

Very interesting. Never seen anyone mention this before. :noidea:

If you're saving money from Ebay then those savings can be used to offset outside marketing cost and you have much more control of your destiny.

Can anyone verify this info???

Roscoe 01-28-2013 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by imjustme (Post 415136)
Well, I guess it depends on the product you're selling. For me, I'm doing almost more than I can handle without paying for any advertising to drive outside traffic to the listings.

Keep in mind that advertisements don't mean that someone will end up buying it. On the contrary, they may go to your listing first and then end up buying someone else's, especially if they're shown "similar items from other sellers" by eBay.

How many times have you gone onto Google's page 2 of search results?

I can't remember the last time I have. The same goes with eBay. Most buyers will find what they're looking for on page 1. With my Top-Rated accounts, I get 160-200 page views in the last 24 hours. With my Above Standard account, I get 15-20 page views in the last 24 hours. The difference is HUGE. Now, it's up to you if you want to believe it or not.

90% of ALL the traffic goes to the Top 5 listings on Page One, period.

Less than 10% of all searches visit Page 2 of any search engine.

Page 3 gets less than 5%.

You can hide dead people on pages 4+, no one will ever find them.

GhostWhoWalks 01-28-2013 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Roscoe (Post 415146)
Very interesting. Never seen anyone mention this before. :noidea:

If you're saving money from Ebay then those savings can be used to offset outside marketing cost and you have much more control of your destiny.

Can anyone verify this info???

OOPS Not pension but health plan here dental etc.

http://pages.ebay.com/sellerinformat..._benefits.html

Sorry English is my 2nd language! Pardon, pardon!

lolllllllllll I love your page 4 comment on the next comment about putting dead people no one will find them on page 4! lol :laugh:


I'll get you the final value fee discount link hold up let me find it!

http://reviews.ebay.com/Get-a-75-Sto...00000001589878
75% OFF ebay final value FEES! :)

What is a Store Referral Credit?

Store Referral Credit is a credit that Store sellers are eligible to receive when they successfully drive buyers to their eBay Store directly from a location outside of eBay. With Store Referral Credit, eBay will give you a 75% credit on your Final Value Fees when your marketing efforts generate sales of your Store Inventory format listings. Here's how it works:

You promote your eBay Store or your Store Inventory items from locations outside of eBay, such as other Web sites, emails to buyers, print advertisements, and so forth.
A buyer sees your promotion and goes directly to your eBay Store or one of your Store Inventory items.
The buyer purchases one of your Store Inventory items.
On your monthly invoice, you are charged the regular Final Value Fee, but you also receive a Store Referral Credit. Like the Final Value Fee, the Store Referral Credit is based on the final value of the item. The Store Referral Credit is roughly equal to 75% of the standard Final Value Fee.

imjustme 01-28-2013 09:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roscoe (Post 415146)
Very interesting. Never seen anyone mention this before. :noidea:

If you're saving money from Ebay then those savings can be used to offset outside marketing cost and you have much more control of your destiny.

Can anyone verify this info???

I think he was being sarcastic. :dance:

GhostWhoWalks 01-28-2013 09:08 AM

No not sarcastic KimJon. Just I got it wrong too me this is all the same here in this country but in the US it's different! I'll get you guys the final value link. I read about it last year. If you bring traffic outside of ebay you also get a discount on the final value sale.

http://reviews.ebay.com/Get-a-75-Sto...00000001589878

What is a Store Referral Credit?

Store Referral Credit is a credit that Store sellers are eligible to receive when they successfully drive buyers to their eBay Store directly from a location outside of eBay. With Store Referral Credit, eBay will give you a 75% credit on your Final Value Fees when your marketing efforts generate sales of your Store Inventory format listings. Here's how it works:

You promote your eBay Store or your Store Inventory items from locations outside of eBay, such as other Web sites, emails to buyers, print advertisements, and so forth.
A buyer sees your promotion and goes directly to your eBay Store or one of your Store Inventory items.
The buyer purchases one of your Store Inventory items.
On your monthly invoice, you are charged the regular Final Value Fee, but you also receive a Store Referral Credit. Like the Final Value Fee, the Store Referral Credit is based on the final value of the item. The Store Referral Credit is roughly equal to 75% of the standard Final Value Fee.

GhostWhoWalks 01-28-2013 09:13 AM

http://pages.ebay.com/sellerinformat...plication.html

Here Stan for you also how ebay works with clicks, views, search, sold etc.

But it's pointless but helpful too others! I had a feeling ebay works like google system!

zoneout 01-28-2013 07:59 PM

Yes, ebay now offers a dental plan to their sellers to help defray the costs of getting kicked in the teeth by ebay`s absurd policies. :suspicious:

mudrat26 10-06-2013 07:25 PM

Re: Do I need to bring traffic from outside of eBay?
 

rsot 10-07-2013 12:14 PM

Re: Do I need to bring traffic from outside of eBay?
 
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Originally Posted by zoneout (Post 415403)
Yes, ebay now offers a dental plan to their sellers to help defray the costs of getting kicked in the teeth by ebay`s absurd policies. :suspicious:

Missed this one - tooth fairy time wheeeee


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