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Cheap electronics trigger suspicion for new stealth?
 

I heard the old story, sell something that does not raise red flags. Sell a coach bag and you problems. Sell some software on a new account and you got serious problems. How about 512mb of Ram that I probably won't get more than 3 dollars for? Someone with experience know if this will trigger a limitation on paypal or a phone call from ebay?

I just read someone's post that they got MC999 for trying to sell a wireless ubs. So go figure!

In the US at the moment MC999 are being handed out left right and centre.

You may want to go with something more 'house hold' like than ram, but you may well get a MC999 for it regardless. Easy to solve though, just need to ring them. Make sure you have your info to hand, and use a clean number

all information in hand, you mean the information you provided to them right? It's all stealth info. No fastball questions like ssn or where you last lived etc.

If you decide to call, you will not know what will be asked.

That said, you would have enough info of your stealth self to be able to persuade ebay you are you...

If you lack the confidence, do not make such a call.

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oops!!!!

Ram might flag the account.

You would need to be aware if it is 'branded'...


Be careful

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No electronics for me...for now, that's for sure.

Any new seller account will get the dreadful mc9999 is just ebay policy now. You have to call. Just remember have all your info that matches a real address and be confidence all is well!

A little off topic but........

Few years back on ebay UK, lots of newbies were selling USB sticks which were advertised as 8gb.
Flash USB worth a couple of dollars. Sounded great to start off new accounts, right?

They were wrongly badged. Had only 2gb. Imagine the damage on new accounts? Suspensions hourly almost.

Always know your source when you are selling on a brand new account.

A national supermarket chain here in Australia got stung with the same thing. Selling flash drives that were not the advertised size.

:nono:

The Chinese advertise 2 different USB storage capacities.

Have to be wise to this. You can get 8GB and real 8GB.

The first is just 2GB made to look like 8. The second is actual 8GB

Latest trend is the 256GB and 512GB usb's that are really 16GB, or 32GB if your lucky.

Have to be wise to these things. They are all over eBay at the moment. Well avoided if you ask me

- the problem with RAM is that a LOT of people are complaining about ⊗⊗⊗⊗ storage listing...so it is a RISKY item...many computer parts and electronic items are risky in general especially for first sales.

I sell on many new accounts and never get an MC999 ever.

I sell household, yard sale used type items for the first group and never an issue.

Anyone listing electronics, cell phone items, high dollar, name brand etc will 99% of the cases get the MC999.

Save yourself the hassle and sell some household goods first.

What are some good numbers that you need to establish in your account before you can sell electronics? Thx

Do not know this answer as I do not sell electronics or risky items.

I wait 30 days before I list my high end, high dollar or name brand items.

Any electronics I do sell is vintage or collectible items that are not new.

That comes with trial and error - have to do that learning curve.

Should not use trial and error with this knowing many members here who have done this and posted they lost many accounts by listing electronics on a brand new account.

Why even try it knowing this information?

how about cell phone cases .. Non brand !
 

similar to brand name but would advertise as no brand Generic water proof
? Would this be a red flag ?

Depends what it it for. If its a very generic waterproof pencil case, no, if its for an iPhone 5 ect then it may. Better to not risk items like the later until the account is strong. Until then stick to house hold items, just like any new seller would.

What is considered a "strong" account? Would allowing you to sell 100 per month considered strong?

You are sounding like rsot. 'Wise to this'.

Had to read who wrote the post

:faint:

Not wise...... any of these words are flagged.

Simply because ebay knows the seller is listing a foo-foo item.

:rip:

If your account had the capacity to sell 100 per month, you would not need to ask this question.

What you should think of is getting that account going.

Selling to your limits monthly.

Offer great customer service and be a seller who stays under the radar of ebay/paypal.

As your account grows, so does your level of tolerance with ebay.

Do that and you earn the right to sell higher priced items.

The early days of your account are your foundation days.

You avoid experiments. Trial and error ends in tears.

You sit down with yourself. You make a business plan of say the first 4 months of the account.

Sell items that will bring money, not grief.

As your feedback grows, you start to consider 'bigger & better'.

At the start, avoid rocking the boat.

Then I will not need to be worried about your making a thread of 'heck, I got suspended'.....

This method works.

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wait.......are you talking about ram STICKS? you know... what snaps into your motherboard.

or those USB flash drive things?

^^^

I am talking about Ram sticks, the kind that goes on your motherboard.

People get greedy too fast and try to sell items that no longer are tolerated on ebay on a new account.

I have built 100s of baby stealths without losing one single account with my method of selling yard sale, household used junk and it works to perfection.

So I have done the testing as rsot calls it for you.

Do not test and lose any account you cannot afford to lose, esp when other members have already tested it and lost.

Do what others who have been successful have done, learn how to play the ebay game and you win.

Thanks for the info. Do you have any experience on when you can sell electronics after you marinate your baby stealths with yard sales and household goods? Thanks.

Older school sellers ( Sandy D & myself) would wait before venturing into big bucks items.

For me, I wait at least two billing cycles, and/or certain number of feedback.

I like patience.

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I wouldn't really see that tossing up a red flag but get some feedback and solid sales before you start.

test test test, electronics / computer stuff seems to be scam zone / high customer b*ch rate....ask me how I know :surrender: I left and never went back. If it isn't your customers your comp goes into high gear screw your day up mode. :deadhorse:

That is so funny because that is the one area where I would imagine it would be difficult to counterfeit and therefore it ought to be safe. I mean seriously, are there western countries that make ram chips? Where are ram chips made? China.

Chanel and coach bags I could see western countries mad of counterfeited, but it's not like you are counterfeiting a western made ram chip. As what most in here has said. It's not the people who make judgements, it's the algorithms.

Wonder why anyone would flag an account with the same degree of concern for counterfeiting as a coach or Chanel handbag.

@glacier


Anything made can be copied

Heaps of stuff made is copied

A market gets perceived

Deceit starts

That is part of ebay's reasoning for restrictions

:heh:

never seen a counterfiet computer part, but selling dead parts.........or getting a box with a hunk of not what you asked for seems to be the scam in that area.

selling end.......customers ripping you off, claiming untrue things or returning things you never sent them. :surrender:

See Kingston Ram all the time available for sale on sites like DH. Pretty common place.

Also often see DDR2 sold with a DDR3 label.

Motherboards get done all the time as well

Pretty common place.

It is the OP's decision to do trial and error - logically, after so many posts, this is not the recommendation but should someone wish to explore...first hand can be done. Just part of the game of learning.

Ugh - figures...haven't seen this phenomenon so clearly put out but I can follow the concept

So all the MC999 you get are from your experiments?

Whatever rocks your boat I guess.

Doing it right and get into selling well from the start works much better for me

:FF:

I guess what I am trying to say is that even when it is a counterfeit, they are counterfeiting from another Chinese company or manufacture, and I often don't hear people complain about computer parts being foo foo.. Handbags and stuff is wherein really see the authorities jump up and down. Not trying to say that eBay won't issue a mc warning, but to have it listed as a high risk warning baffled me a bit.

@glacier

Time for heaps more research

Counterfeit consumer goods - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Read this article. Eye opening o say the least

:heh:

Re: Cheap electronics trigger suspicion for new stealth?
 

Authorities getting wise to all kinds of good(ies) - as they should be with the both health at risk and economy.

sidenote: Counterfeit military goods - oh noz!

Re: Cheap electronics trigger suspicion for new stealth?
 

Just to save you the trouble of experimenting.... I got an mc999 for listing a BIN $1.99 no-name 3-foot USB cable on a new account. This was one of those plain black ubiquitous USB cables that everyone gets with any camera, gadget, etc.

The take-away here is that anything that smells of electronics is going to trigger an mc999. There are probably other categories that automatically trigger mc999.

Re: Cheap electronics trigger suspicion for new stealth?
 

Even after you have successfully called in?