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animekings99 08-08-2014 07:45 AM

ebay VS amazon
 
hi all.

what is easy-er for stealth ebay or amazon

i have never sold on there be-for in my life

if any one would love to wright down anything that would be cool

im looking to make more money and sell diff place i sell on ebay and ioffer.

i used to sell on ebid but they SUX only made 100.00 in about a year and i had 400 items in my store lol. + you have to pay even if you don't sell on there.

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Geegee83 08-08-2014 08:17 AM

Re: ebay VS amazon
 
*From a UK seller perspective*

My main business is on eBay, I've started Amazon about 3 months ago (Both my normal account, not stealth)

All I know is that Amazon is good in a way as you don't have the listing limits, but sales are slower to pick up and as far as I understand reviews are common and can be quite difficult to pass, especially for stealth.

eBay stealth I have been doing for a while now, and apart from the PayPal ID verification it seems to be easy, the problem is the listing limits!

Anyhow, hope that helps, didn't want your post to go unanswered.

animekings99 08-08-2014 09:06 PM

Re: ebay VS amazon
 
thanks for the share and info

jeffweico 08-08-2014 09:41 PM

Re: ebay VS amazon
 
It all depends on what you are selling if the question is which one is better. Sometimes you can get a higher price and/or more sales on one or the other depending on the product. For example, if you are selling rare books, Amazon is the better choice.

Operationally, it is more difficult to sell on Amazon than on eBay. Amazon is more advanced, technology wise and requires extra steps be taken to avoid detection. Also, they have a ZERO TOLERNCE policy when it comes to counterfeits or legitimate merchandise that is shoddy. They also require more in terms of customer service than eBay does.

If you act unprofessionally on Amazon, you will get booted a lot faster than you will at eBay. Every Amazon purchase is covered by the A-Z Guarantee, so a "no refunds" policy, or a time limit (other than Amazon's) will not work. Badgering the customer or being argumentative in any way will get you canned immediately. Breaking ANY of their rules will close your account pretty quickly.

And if you think that eBay's new seller standards are draconian, you won't like Amazon's, which have been in place for a long time now. Amazon has long used "order defect rates" to rank sellers. eBay is implementing that on August 20th, 2014. Many Top-Rated sellers will no longer be top-rated (some of my accounts included) on eBay.

And, if PayPal bans you for whatever reason, they will hold your money for 180 days, but you most likely WILL eventually get your money. If Amazon bans you for selling what they believe to be counterfeits, or if they believe your information is not real, you will lose whatever money they are holding. There are other reasons for them to confiscate your money as well and it is stated in their terms and conditions, so there is likely not much you can do about it if it happens to you.

Having said all that, Amazon CAN be very rewarding if you follow the rules and can handle the customer service aspects of it. Prices on many items tend to be higher, and profit margins fatter. And there can also be more sales than you will get on eBay. Again, the rewards part of it depends on what you are selling.

There are scammers on Amazon, just like there are on eBay. If you are the type of person who cannot simply process a loss and move on, then Amazon is not for you. If you start a huge argument every time a customer wants to return something, then Amazon is not for you. If your normal response to customers starts with something like "Dear Retarded B**CH, why not do society a favor and kill yourself?" then Amazon is not for you.

But if you can follow the stealth methods and be an adult, then go for it! What have you got to lose?

bjammin 08-08-2014 10:42 PM

Re: ebay VS amazon
 
I see these toy keychains on both EB and AZ. EB sells a lot more than AZ does for me. But I also have to admit that I am bias to EB because I understand it more because I use it more.

Geegee83 08-09-2014 04:54 AM

Re: ebay VS amazon
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jeffweico (Post 575920)
It all depends on what you are selling if the question is which one is better. Sometimes you can get a higher price and/or more sales on one or the other depending on the product. For example, if you are selling rare books, Amazon is the better choice.

Operationally, it is more difficult to sell on Amazon than on eBay. Amazon is more advanced, technology wise and requires extra steps be taken to avoid detection. Also, they have a ZERO TOLERNCE policy when it comes to counterfeits or legitimate merchandise that is shoddy. They also require more in terms of customer service than eBay does.

If you act unprofessionally on Amazon, you will get booted a lot faster than you will at eBay. Every Amazon purchase is covered by the A-Z Guarantee, so a "no refunds" policy, or a time limit (other than Amazon's) will not work. Badgering the customer or being argumentative in any way will get you canned immediately. Breaking ANY of their rules will close your account pretty quickly.

And if you think that eBay's new seller standards are draconian, you won't like Amazon's, which have been in place for a long time now. Amazon has long used "order defect rates" to rank sellers. eBay is implementing that on August 20th, 2014. Many Top-Rated sellers will no longer be top-rated (some of my accounts included) on eBay.

And, if PayPal bans you for whatever reason, they will hold your money for 180 days, but you most likely WILL eventually get your money. If Amazon bans you for selling what they believe to be counterfeits, or if they believe your information is not real, you will lose whatever money they are holding. There are other reasons for them to confiscate your money as well and it is stated in their terms and conditions, so there is likely not much you can do about it if it happens to you.

Having said all that, Amazon CAN be very rewarding if you follow the rules and can handle the customer service aspects of it. Prices on many items tend to be higher, and profit margins fatter. And there can also be more sales than you will get on eBay. Again, the rewards part of it depends on what you are selling.

There are scammers on Amazon, just like there are on eBay. If you are the type of person who cannot simply process a loss and move on, then Amazon is not for you. If you start a huge argument every time a customer wants to return something, then Amazon is not for you. If your normal response to customers starts with something like "Dear Retarded B**CH, why not do society a favor and kill yourself?" then Amazon is not for you.

But if you can follow the stealth methods and be an adult, then go for it! What have you got to lose?


I love your posts Jeffweico :FF:

Some great information there that I will use myself!

Can I ask you what extra steps you need to take? I've not started my Stealth Amazon yet, I've got the docs ready for a seller on here but that comment made me think. I use a new user account on the PC for each stealth, and new IP when logging in, and along with the usual eB stealth practices.. am I missing something vital? :s

Geegee83 08-09-2014 04:56 AM

Re: ebay VS amazon
 
I also favour Ebay more than Amazon as I've been using it for about 10 years, whereas Amazon only for a few months, but I took the plunge and by using both I get more sales overall, I just take it slow on Amazon and on both platforms the key is to aim for 100% customer satisfaction..

rsot 08-09-2014 06:29 AM

Re: ebay VS amazon
 
@OP, eb is relatively easier to operate on than Amazon and the setup is easier/more reliable on eB (except for that deal of 0/0 limits lately). Amazon however has higher quality of bidders and no set limits like eB per say (though there are account reviews).

I would say dabble on Az and get a feel for it but never rely only on one account OR one platform...

GreenBean 08-09-2014 06:31 AM

Re: ebay VS amazon
 
Never put all your eggs in one basket.


Use both platforms.

:juggle:

animekings99 08-09-2014 09:12 AM

Re: ebay VS amazon
 
Thanks everyone for the great information I really appreciate it have a great one

Atw777 08-09-2014 01:41 PM

Re: ebay VS amazon
 
Coming from my perspective I have been selling on ebay for 8-9 years and amazon recently within the last 2 years. There are certain vero products that ebay will shut your account down for quickly. The same products will last amazon and you can sell hundreds of them without batting an eye. Of course all my products are real but vero items. Only bad thing about amazon many items have a ban on listing on the site.

Atw777 08-09-2014 01:42 PM

Re: ebay VS amazon
 
I look at it also as two oars to the profit ship. You need to utilize anything and everything that will make you money.

rsot 08-09-2014 02:15 PM

Re: ebay VS amazon
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Atw777 (Post 576171)
Coming from my perspective I have been selling on ebay for 8-9 years and amazon recently within the last 2 years. There are certain vero products that ebay will shut your account down for quickly. The same products will last amazon and you can sell hundreds of them without batting an eye. Of course all my products are real but vero items. Only bad thing about amazon many items have a ban on listing on the site.

Amazon changes up the listing restrictions all the time...and close accounts that attempt to sell on a "hot" listing...it's quite the challenge

GreenBean 08-09-2014 06:20 PM

Re: ebay VS amazon
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Atw777 (Post 576171)
Coming from my perspective I have been selling on ebay for 8-9 years and amazon recently within the last 2 years. There are certain vero products that ebay will shut your account down for quickly. The same products will last amazon and you can sell hundreds of them without batting an eye. Of course all my products are real but vero items. Only bad thing about amazon many items have a ban on listing on the site.

Good for amazon then.

Sellers flogging VeRo caused this.

:nono:

Atw777 08-10-2014 12:48 PM

Re: ebay VS amazon
 
You just have to be willing to test out which items work and don't work and go very slowly in the beginning. They pretend like you can sell a lot but not really I would sell under 5-10 items and make sure you get feedback for those sales. Then next month double your listings. But if you don't have feedback and sell too quickly they will review the account and if you are lucky you will pass the review. In my opinion if you sell too much of one item or one item category they are going to shut you down quickly. Just take it slow get some feedback and you will survive.

jeffweico 08-10-2014 09:16 PM

Re: ebay VS amazon
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Atw777 (Post 576481)
You just have to be willing to test out which items work and don't work and go very slowly in the beginning. They pretend like you can sell a lot but not really I would sell under 5-10 items and make sure you get feedback for those sales. Then next month double your listings. But if you don't have feedback and sell too quickly they will review the account and if you are lucky you will pass the review. In my opinion if you sell too much of one item or one item category they are going to shut you down quickly. Just take it slow get some feedback and you will survive.

It all depends on what you are selling. A new account selling used books could probably withstand a couple hundred listings. A new account selling new DVD's, not so much.

Amazon does not have a VERO program like eBay, but that does not mean they do not talk to copyright and trademark owners. If a copyright owner complains that you are selling counterfeits, your account is history.

Selling counterfeits or shoddy merchandise is also a good way to get an account closed. But you CAN sell legitimate brand name merchandise IF you are careful and start slowly as the above post suggests.

sax4 08-11-2014 02:22 AM

Re: ebay VS amazon
 
Profits are much higher for me on Amazon, but they are becoming super strict with new accounts. EBay is much easier for stealth. Also on Ebay and PP you don't need to attach a bank account to get your money

animekings99 08-11-2014 03:55 AM

Re: ebay VS amazon
 
thanks sax ;]

SaiJin 08-11-2014 07:35 PM

Re: ebay VS amazon
 
I quit Amazon a while back since they are so strict.

so how do you AZ sellers stay there and sell well? I thought I was VERY careful and did everything to the T , and still got random boot out.

Atw777 08-12-2014 04:41 PM

Re: ebay VS amazon
 
I've never had an AZ issue out of a couple thousand transactions. I'm sure one day I will but haven't yet. I had two returns but it was something that was defected and luckily the customers knew and were not jerks about it.

sax4 08-12-2014 05:31 PM

Re: ebay VS amazon
 
Opening new Amazon accounts now and you seem to be under review every time, then another review after that.

animekings99 08-12-2014 05:46 PM

Re: ebay VS amazon
 
it sounds like a pain n the ass on there

Dmshark25 08-12-2014 10:37 PM

Re: ebay VS amazon
 
I'm really liking Amazon, and starting to think I put more energy into the wrong platform with eBay

Now I just have my real account right now that's a couple years old, so I'm sure one reason I never had a review could because it's all my real info, and I really have gradually built up sales

But the items I sell on Amazon ID never be able to sell on eBay , at least the same quantity without having some issue

The only thing is that I'm nervous from hearing that they can delete your account and your money, I just switched to a pro merchant so It changed my whole payment schedule to one week instead of 3 weeks, so even the sales I'm making this week are going into this Fridays disbursement and that number keeps going up and getting me more nervous

But after this week it will just be sales from every week and not from the last 3 so I won't be as nervous

Geegee83 08-13-2014 03:40 AM

Re: ebay VS amazon
 
Dmshark25 - I'm also doing very well with Amazon after being with eBay for years and year and never ever looking at Amazon, it's also my genuine details.

It does worry me that I'll get kicked off for no reason, but then I always think people don't give the full story and don't admit their mistakes so readily, so I take it with a pinch of salt that they were kicked off for "no reason".

I have to wait 2 weeks for disbursement in the UK, then another 4 days for the money to reach my account.

vogeltron 08-23-2015 04:13 AM

Re: ebay VS amazon
 
I know I am bringing back a year old thread I really like it!

Does anyone have preferences on the type of items they sell on eBay vs. Amazon?

For me eBay seems to be better for unique items where I can take lots of pictures and really showcase them. Amazon seems to be better for certain products that can be explained by a stock photo.

Just curious about everyone experiences with the general type of products, fees, insights, suggestions, etc.

Thanks

Shekibi 08-23-2015 08:44 PM

Re: ebay VS amazon
 
You can make a lot more money on Amazon depending on what you're selling but a bad idea for knockoffs. eBay tends to be more lenient and easier to handle when it comes to running stealth accounts.

mayward 08-23-2015 09:26 PM

Re: ebay VS amazon
 
AMAZON UK , fatter profit.
EBAY UK, more orders

sax4 08-24-2015 09:32 AM

Re: ebay VS amazon
 
There are more tricks you can do with Amazon, the lowest price does not always sell ;)

ebayseller10 08-24-2015 12:59 PM

Re: ebay VS amazon
 
I put up two items on amazon. One item is on the very last page, and the other doesn't even show up in search results.

If someone can tell me how to get your products shown high in the results, that would be great.

yankee 08-24-2015 01:20 PM

Re: ebay VS amazon
 
price and feedback are key for new accounts. EVEN ONE FEEDBACK makes a huge difference.

ebayseller10 08-24-2015 01:37 PM

Re: ebay VS amazon
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by yankee (Post 698012)
price and feedback are key for new accounts. EVEN ONE FEEDBACK makes a huge difference.

I see, but I put up a product that is the cheaper than anyone else's listing but I can't even find it.

yankee 08-24-2015 01:46 PM

Re: ebay VS amazon
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ebayseller10 (Post 698014)
I see, but I put up a product that is the cheaper than anyone else's listing but I can't even find it.

You need feedback! lol viscous circle at first.

tmansback 08-31-2015 11:27 PM

Re: ebay VS amazon
 
Amazon is much more difficult to stay stealth on. Which the Amazon stealth book goes more detail. Amazon destroys accounts very quickly. The one great thing about Amazon is no work shipping products. I send them my products and they handle the shipping. I count the money. Amazon is really annoying though. You better answer all the emails quickly. If you ship you better ship on time with tracking. They pretty much expect you to be as good if not better than them with customer service and shipping.

GhostOfAmazon 08-31-2015 11:39 PM

Re: ebay VS amazon
 
If there's a product catalog for the item, I sell it on Amazon.

I get more money for any item I sell on Amazon vs. eBay, period, hands down.

Note that this assumes you have a least a few 5 star feedback (100% positive)

rsot 09-01-2015 12:27 AM

Re: ebay VS amazon
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sax4 (Post 697958)
There are more tricks you can do with Amazon, the lowest price does not always sell ;)

Quite true - and yet mysterious :)


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