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user83 12-21-2014 10:00 PM

near to 200 sales and what to do if they ask for SSN?
 
what normally do you guys with an stealth account with near to 200 sales?? me english si not so good but i want to know what to do if switch to another account or make more sales?

pokerpro 12-21-2014 10:06 PM

Re: near to 200 sales and what to do if they ask for SSN?
 
if you're close now, just stop selling on that account for the next 10 days...

BlackBerets 12-21-2014 10:07 PM

Re: near to 200 sales and what to do if they ask for SSN?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by user83 (Post 622711)
what normally do you guys with an stealth account with near to 200 sales?? me english si not so good but i want to know what to do if switch to another account or make more sales?

Your english is fine... Understandable at least.
What are your selling-limits and how aged is the account as of now?
Hard to tell your position without any information on your account.

user83 12-21-2014 10:17 PM

Re: near to 200 sales and what to do if they ask for SSN?
 
my account is 50 5000, only 2 month created, but i want to know i will near to 200 sales in 1 or 2 month so what i should do ?

BlackBerets 12-21-2014 10:32 PM

Re: near to 200 sales and what to do if they ask for SSN?
 
You should let it cool down for a bit then. Especially during this holiday season. You can start listing again in January if you so wish. If you are reaching your limit again you do not want to go over it. Give eBay some time and they might lift your limits after they've reviewed you account (if you have it in good standing).

yankee 12-21-2014 10:36 PM

Re: near to 200 sales and what to do if they ask for SSN?
 
Sell until they ask for the tax ID, then Waite for the reset in January

user83 12-21-2014 10:47 PM

Re: near to 200 sales and what to do if they ask for SSN?
 
ok so normally i can sell more than 200 300 500 items in a year and they will ask for the tax id near december and then i can continue selling in january without problem?

sentra2skyliner33 12-21-2014 10:49 PM

Re: near to 200 sales and what to do if they ask for SSN?
 
I.thought it was 200 sales and 20k

yankee 12-21-2014 10:58 PM

Re: near to 200 sales and what to do if they ask for SSN?
 
Once they ask for tax info stop selling and move onto another account. It will reset sometime in late January.

To sell 500 items you might need 4, 5, 6 accounts...

yankee 12-21-2014 11:00 PM

Re: near to 200 sales and what to do if they ask for SSN?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sentra2skyliner33 (Post 622724)
I.thought it was 200 sales and 20k

PayPal typically asks on projected sales of either or number. Not 200-20K IRS requirement.

Most people report 140-170 items and it depends on the time of year as well. You could easily sell a couple hundred $30.00 items before the first of the year and not get the request in December. In January you might not make 100 before they request based on yearly projections.

GreenBean 12-22-2014 12:37 AM

Re: near to 200 sales and what to do if they ask for SSN?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by user83 (Post 622715)
my account is 50 5000, only 2 month created, but i want to know i will near to 200 sales in 1 or 2 month so what i should do ?

You have to know it is paypal that you need to worry about.

paypal can, and paypal do ask for tax info on projected sales.

If you are talking about getting near to your 200 total so quickly, you need to think of using more accounts.

What steps are you going to take for the tax requests?

Dmshark25 12-22-2014 12:57 AM

Re: near to 200 sales and what to do if they ask for SSN?
 
If you don't go over the threshold this year, if you continue with the sales you made in just 2 months , than you will definitely get asked for a tax ID selling the way you are by the end of January beginning of February

It's on Pace , so it is different making close to 200 transactions the last month of the year as opposed to the first month

So get prepared to provide a tax ID, unless you plan on spreading sales out in the upcoming New Year

Athletichunta 12-22-2014 02:51 AM

Re: near to 200 sales and what to do if they ask for SSN?
 
Id had 36 thousand one one account. They didnt botherme until i hit 200 items

GreenBean 12-22-2014 03:05 AM

Re: near to 200 sales and what to do if they ask for SSN?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Athletichunta (Post 622771)
Id had 36 thousand one one account. They didnt botherme until i hit 200 items

which year?

rsot 12-22-2014 04:54 AM

Re: near to 200 sales and what to do if they ask for SSN?
 
@OP, transition to other stealth accounts - spread sales

Dmshark25 12-22-2014 05:46 AM

Re: near to 200 sales and what to do if they ask for SSN?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Athletichunta (Post 622771)
Id had 36 thousand one one account. They didnt botherme until i hit 200 items

That's strange, but it will depend on what month your sales are in, if you have $3000 in Sales coming in to DECEMBER and DECEMBER sales are approaching $8000 but it's the last couple days , than you may not get asked for a tax ID, because even though your at $8000 in Sales there is only say 1 or 2 days left in the year so you are not on pace to go over 20K

However if you have he same 8K in Sales in January you will almost certainly be asked for a taxID because it's the first Month of the year so with 11 months left your projection is much higher

pokerpro 12-22-2014 04:36 PM

Re: near to 200 sales and what to do if they ask for SSN?
 
My news years resolution is to start a spread sheet for paypal on all my stealth accounst to keep track of $$ and number of items sold....last year was my first year of stealthiness, so most of my accounts have not sold for a full calendar year.....this year, they will so I'm going to be very, very careful about staying away from those 200-20K limits.

GreenBean 12-22-2014 05:25 PM

Re: near to 200 sales and what to do if they ask for SSN?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dmshark25 (Post 622820)
That's strange, but it will depend on what month your sales are in,

paypal was slack with requests.

Now they have gotten stricter.

Hercules 12-22-2014 07:21 PM

Re: near to 200 sales and what to do if they ask for SSN?
 
I've had Paypal warning emails early and some very late near
the 20/20,000 threshold. I stopped selling on them.
But the next January, new year, the message asking for tax ID #
lasted until July of that year. That's on all Paypals with notices!

yankee 12-22-2014 07:59 PM

Re: near to 200 sales and what to do if they ask for SSN?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hercules (Post 623012)
I've had Paypal warning emails early and some very late near
the 20/20,000 threshold. I stopped selling on them.
But the next January, new year, the message asking for tax ID #
lasted until July of that year. That's on all Paypals with notices!

You must have continued to sell after the first request. At demand you will not be able to do anything other than supply an EIN.

Hercules 12-22-2014 08:14 PM

Re: near to 200 sales and what to do if they ask for SSN?
 
Maybe I went over the piece count but I'm sure I didn't go over the 20 grand. Maybe when you break one they make you wait longer.

yankee 12-22-2014 09:14 PM

Re: near to 200 sales and what to do if they ask for SSN?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hercules (Post 623019)
Maybe I went over the piece count but I'm sure I didn't go over the 20 grand. Maybe when you break one they make you wait longer.

You kept on selling until they limited your account is seems. If you stop selling when you received the first request you should have had a different result.

trosky 12-22-2014 09:15 PM

Re: near to 200 sales and what to do if they ask for SSN?
 
Aren't those accounts stable enough and worth it to get an EIN? Or you're just looking to avoid taxes completely?

yankee 12-22-2014 09:20 PM

Re: near to 200 sales and what to do if they ask for SSN?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by trosky (Post 623029)
Aren't those accounts stable enough and worth it to get an EIN? Or you're just looking to avoid taxes completely?

It really depends on a slew of things for me and it has nothing to do with taxes.

I don't particularly want say 50 EIN eBay accounts. Also new accounts can outperform small accounts in many ways. It is less risk to liquidate inventory. Get around MSRP and dealer restrictions without pissing all your competitors off. All one off items(one of a kind or very minimal inventory) all gets sold on stealth accounts.

Also I have a lot of partners. I don't need to split profit on every single purchase or new venture.

I get to play with new products without everyone knowing every aspect or where it comes from etc...

So many advantages of stealth for me. I turn and burn them up until today anyways.

trosky 12-22-2014 09:47 PM

Re: near to 200 sales and what to do if they ask for SSN?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by yankee (Post 623031)
It really depends on a slew of things for me and it has nothing to do with taxes.



I don't particularly want say 50 EIN eBay accounts. Also new accounts can outperform small accounts in many ways. It is less risk to liquidate inventory. Get around MSRP and dealer restrictions without pissing all your competitors off. All one off items(one of a kind or very minimal inventory) all gets sold on stealth accounts.



Also I have a lot of partners. I don't need to split profit on every single purchase or new venture.



I get to play with new products without everyone knowing every aspect or where it comes from etc...



So many advantages of stealth for me. I turn and burn them up until today anyways.


Yeah I know you have many more valid reasons than most of us, since you have many EIN already, but many here have none and avoid it at all costs without a valid enough reason, and then something like this happens where PayPal gets limited when it can be avoided, obviously not on all accounts but a few of the big limits ones it's good just to not worry about limits on some items that are cheap and move a ton where many accounts will be needed instead

john007 12-22-2014 11:25 PM

Re: near to 200 sales and what to do if they ask for SSN?
 
Do they actually reset your account if you already got a request from them for SS # at years end?

yankee 12-22-2014 11:27 PM

Re: near to 200 sales and what to do if they ask for SSN?
 
If you get the request and STOP selling, sometime in january the new year reset occurs. If you keep on selling you will get restricted and have to add an EIN/etc..

Hercules 12-23-2014 12:07 AM

Re: near to 200 sales and what to do if they ask for SSN?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by yankee (Post 623072)
If you get the request and STOP selling, sometime in january the new year reset occurs. If you keep on selling you will get restricted and have to add an EIN/etc..

This year I have many EIN PP's so I don't even use a quarter of the accts I used in the past. I got the courage up to use way less accts. I sell much more now plus the large feedback brings in higher average prices!

zexaah 12-23-2014 02:17 AM

Re: near to 200 sales and what to do if they ask for SSN?
 
DO NOT PASS THE 200/20k MAN!

rsot 12-23-2014 05:48 AM

Re: near to 200 sales and what to do if they ask for SSN?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by zexaah (Post 623085)
DO NOT PASS THE 200/20k MAN!

You can be limited on PROJECTED SALE RATE too

pokerpro 12-23-2014 03:21 PM

Re: near to 200 sales and what to do if they ask for SSN?
 
Yes....if you sell 75 times in january......they figure you are for sure are going to go over 200.........just another reason to have "more accounts than you need"......IMO there is no such thing as spreading sales across too many accounts......it's too easy to avoid that 200/20K..........no reason to cross that line..........

trosky 12-23-2014 04:08 PM

Re: near to 200 sales and what to do if they ask for SSN?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pokerpro (Post 623225)
Yes....if you sell 75 times in january......they figure you are for sure are going to go over 200.........just another reason to have "more accounts than you need"......IMO there is no such thing as spreading sales across too many accounts......it's too easy to avoid that 200/20K..........no reason to cross that line..........


I agree, my issue with spreading sales around has always been the risk of listing the same item in multiple accounts (not at the same time) and ebay noticing in a manual review or competitors noticing and report you. It's sometimes hard and time consuming to make the listings/pictures look completely different. How do you guys handle that? Different templates for each account?

gonzoman 12-24-2014 01:32 PM

Re: near to 200 sales and what to do if they ask for SSN?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by trosky (Post 623252)
I agree, my issue with spreading sales around has always been the risk of listing the same item in multiple accounts (not at the same time) and ebay noticing in a manual review or competitors noticing and report you. It's sometimes hard and time consuming to make the listings/pictures look completely different. How do you guys handle that? Different templates for each account?

How are you with photoshop?
I sell items in a category with very few sellers selling similar product, comparing to other categories on ebay. I currently have 4 accounts with same items.
I list them different price, in some accounts they are 'used items', in other they are being listed as new. Some have free shipping only and some use both auction and BIN. Some offer international shipping, some don't. I take pictures indoor and outdoor. Some have 4 pictures and in some accounts the same items have only 2 pictures. i use photoshop with some accounts to make photos sharper and better. Some pictures are square some are rectangle. I have had zero issues so far (knock on wood, spit on cats etc)
No templates use. I use different fonts in size and color in description section.

pokerpro 12-24-2014 01:44 PM

Re: near to 200 sales and what to do if they ask for SSN?
 
Yes, Gonzo is doing it correctly.......change backgrounds etc., and all that he said.......It starts out being a pain, but once you get in the habit it's easy.


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