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Stealth Acct, Limit Increases & 21 Day Hold Lifted
 

I wanted to post an account that has results as everyone should expect to have after there account reaches around 90 days old.

Early October I had created an account. It started off with 10/1000 limits. I started off selling a set of key chains (low risk, non Ver0 item). I put it up as an auction starting at $.99 with free shipping for 7 days. After it sold, I would offer second chance listings for 1 day. After that 1 day of 2nd chances was over, I would relist the same item. I continued to do this until I received my first limit increase (10/1000 to 30/3000). This happened towards the end of November. After that, I became more aggressive with my listings. I started maxing out my 30 items with multiple auctions and multiple BIN (Buy It Now). Less than 30 days later I received another increase to 60/6000. Again this was selling low risk items.

The account is now about 3 months and 1 week old and it is now not restricted by the 21 day hold on funds. The account has sold roughly 35 items since its creation and has 16 positive feedback (100%). I have made sure to ship out ASAP with tracking uploaded and all the little things EB wants its sellers to do to make the buyers feel like gods.

My point behind all this is just so ppl new to stealth can see what they should expect. Now that this account is freed up, I will start to sell other stuff that I would not have sold before. Most accounts that I handle like this one sees limits like this or better. It just takes patience and persistence.

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I follow the same pattern, have around 10 from November and most were increased on December to 30/3000, now 2 of those to 90/9000, all will hit the 90 days end of this month beginning of next with good feedback and no holds hopefully. From there they can be pushed a little more and hopefully last a long time

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Useful info bjammin, for all of us, what do you mean by 'keychains', and did you literally just sell these or did you vary your ilistings with similarly priced items, interested to see if we have any similar items over here, if something is popular enough to keep selling then there will be no reason to stop selling it until the buyers have had enough and no one buys it anymore, you mentioned you sent them by tracked postage as well, it is expensive over here to send cheap items by tracked mail, listings would need to have a certain value for us not to lose out every time we posted the item.

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In here you can send lightweight items under 3 ounces for $1.93 with tracking number

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Yes that is a big big difference to what is available to us over here in UK for tracked postage, so these keychains that bjammin mentioned are really lightweight items then are they?

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Its strange that you mention the holds. On 2 of my accounts right now, they had holds. Even ebay has the disclaimer at the bottom of the page when creating a listing that says Paypal will hold the funds blah blah. But just a few days ago when i have been getting payments for items, the money shows up right away. Not sure if its a fluke or certain payment type that buyers are using or what. Accounts have only been sold on for 3 weeks.

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Good job bjammin quality consistent work gets great results keep it up!

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Keychains / Key Chains / Key Rings
An example may be a Chicago Bulls Keychain, and 4 other NBA teams to sell along with it. I can understand what you mean about expensive shipping being a problem. But for me I can sell a keychain for $5 or $6 and pay $1.92 for 3oz through USPS. Of course you gotta do what makes the best sense to you.

I do not like taking a loss for feedback, but I do not have to make a killing either. My killings come later after I have a trusted account with some time and experience under the belt.

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I know ppl will differ with me on this, but I think it depends on how long it has been a seller acct, not how long you have been selling. But, it does seem like $250 is the magic dollar amount and 90 days (as a seller acct, not when you started selling) seems like the magic amount of time. Some also mention feedback or number of sales. I do not know if that is a factor but this account has 16 FB and 34 sales,if anyone was interested.

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Strange, I rotate accounts and sell usually on 4 at a time, and all 4 of the accounts are 5 months old however on all 4 I sold the first item 3-4 weeks ago, and the last 3 days all the Payments have been coming In as Instant

I thought it was just random at first , I know once in a while payments do just come thru without a hold but from Thursday thru all day today every payment has been instant

And the items are anywhere from $5 to $300 , And the Feedbacks for each account only are 4 - 20 positives

Anyone else having same situation the last few days, these are all US accounts

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I can also confirm that 4 of my accounts with sales after Thursday has no longer holds on them. All of them under 90 days old, even one of them the first sale was Jan 13th and no holds now. It can't be coincidence, something new?

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Yes, since the 15th ALL of my payments on ALL of my accounts have been instant. I have a 5/500 account was just created, listed an item and received instant payment. That account is new, never been sold on until then.

My other accounts are about 3 weeks old and had a sellers account created and selling on for nearly the same time. Holds have been in effect....until the 15th. Very strange.

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Could be a glitch in their system than, I still get the message about holds when I lost the item in eBay but still today all sales are coming thru instant

Or it could just be something new they are trying , maybe they been under a lot of scrutiny with holding funds whether it be holds or limitations and they are trying to fix their image a little

Lot of Members have also reporting more 45 day hold on funds on limited US accounts rather than the strict 180 day hold

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Could be......but it could also have to do with the ebay/paypal split that is coming up. I have not seen an official date as to when it will happen, other than " by mid-2015". Maybe things are changing now.

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In the terms & agreements on ebay it states after 90 days of your first sale (not when the account was opened) 250$ in sales, and 25 sales then the holds get removed.

Obviously your account has to be squeaky clean without any issues.

If you don't have it removed something is up with your account..

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Sure it states that, but as I and several others have mentioned...payments are going through instantly as of the 15th. Brand new accounts with limited selling history.

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Are these ebay payments, or payments from someplace else?

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ebay payments

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Wow.....I've never had a single account of mine had holds removed before the 25/250/90 rules.

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Some people get 1000/50000 limits on a brand new account, same thing.

Ebay is very quirky when it comes to these things BUT you should expect it to be removed after the 25/250/90 days..

You should never "expect" a 1000/50000 limit account when creating one, unless you have a method of doing so. I don't think you should "expect" the hold to be lifted unless you know a method of getting them removed sooner.

The holds aren't even a bad thing. It helps age the account properly. You may have the holds removed but if you start withdrawing funds to quickly everything may seem okay but paypal might be watching your account like a hawk because of it.

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Yea this is the first time for me as well, I always needed to wait 90 days, the other factors never mattered and it's with 4 different accounts all around a month old, it seems other members are experience the same, so maybe something new from PayPal

And I have listed low risk $5 items to high risk $300 and all have been coming thru instant , and it started this past Thursday , and every new listing I put up it still has the message about paypal holds

Maybe they are not going to place holds on every account, all eBay transactions also

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I think you are misinterpreting what I said. I did not and am not expecting the holds to be removed before the typical 90 day ordeal. Ebay still shows the message that funds will be held while a selling history is being established when creating listings. That's fine, and let me clarify that ALL of my transactions have had funds held up until the 15th. And seeing as I am not the only one this has happened to, we are trying to figure out why this has happened.

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Yea this is interesting and definitely something new, in 3 years and a lot of paypal accounts paypal was always very firm and accounts needed that 90 day history for them to lift holds, yes the occasional transaction does slip thru, but this is now going to be 6 days and all 4 accounts I'm currently selling on

Also it seems others are experiencing the same, not a huge deal, just interesting to see a change like this and to see where they are going

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I still question as to it having something to do with the ebay/paypal split taking place in the next few months.

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I can also confirm a personal stealth of mine that began selling in december no longer has holds, began late last week

very interesting stuff

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Okay...somebody play some twilight zone music please!

Just earlier today, I said I had never had money from an eBay payment NOT held until the 25/25/90 day criteria was met.......

Well, low and behold tonight my newest account that only had 8 sales previously, sold 6 items and they all have no hold on them????


That's pretty weird, and I'm kind of freaked out by the timing......here's it's info for anyone who is curious.

Seller account created June 15th.

The 1st item was sold on July 9th

I have been just letting it sit, and it has only sold 8 items total ($600) until tonight.

Tonight it sold about $700 for 6 items....no holds, amazing.....

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Haha alright I withdraw my previous comments. I have a stealth account that has holds lifted on paypals side. In other words I got a very late mc999 on a account and was told from that date I'd have to wait an additional 90 days.... It's been about 45 after the mc999.

Interesting.....

We knew changes were coming... Just a matter of "what" changes and from who.

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Has anyone received a direct payment to paypal to see if holds are still in place?

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I have had direct payments to my PPs without holds but the PPs of mine are not newly-created.

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I mean with these new accounts...I think this solely has to do with ebay not telling paypal to hold funds for whatever reason. I haven't invoiced anyone and received a payment otherwise, so I can't say for sure.

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Maybe there's something going on.......But Ebay/Paypal are all nuts so who knows, maybe someone bumped the "Don't Hold Money" switch to On!

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Well, if they did bump that switch, I hope it gets stuck in that position!

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I have a account here that is 60 days old and still has the 21 day holds on and I have one 30 days old that has no holds on it...the **** they do never makes sense.

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I also have new accounts that when i sold my first item, I had received Instant Payment.

This scares me because I am sure that they will be doing something else to offset this that will affect us. I believe that if they are giving a foot,then they will be taking 2 feet back.

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To all you stealth vets....has this ever happened before?

If not ...it really could be one of the *many* changes that both platforms start implementing.

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There is no such thing really of a constant anything

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Well, before today, in my 16 years on eBay....

I've never had a non-hold without all the criteria being met....

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I have had a few accts that just never had holds

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UPDATE........the first 4 items that sold last night on my (only 8 previous sales) account had no holds on the money, BUT the last 2 out of the 6 that just got paid for.....DID get a hold put on the funds.......go figure!

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I don't see this lasting much longer, it's probably a glitch that they will close up soon, it just doesn't make sense that they would keep this going on new accounts with no selling history

Could be a change in software or something and everything is not up and running properly yet from the break off with eBay