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mchgrt 03-21-2015 04:03 AM

eBay Stealth Accts: 0/0 for almost 10 accounts in a row
 
I've spent a lot of time lurking over the past few months and have decided to start my foray into stealth accts. I have got nothing but 0/0's, and a few upgrades after calling eBay.

I am using Google Chrome portable with a new EXE for each account. My IP is from AT&T tethering, and I log all IP's. My phone #'s are Google voice (is this the problem?). My names are randomly generated but street addresses are real. My paypal accounts are verified.

So basically for every account I create I am forced to call in and be at the mercy of the eBay tech on the line. A couple of times I have been given nominal upgrades. Most of the time they ask for ID verification.

Any thoughts on my methods, and any suggestions as to what I'm doing wrong?

JamesNorth101 03-21-2015 09:36 AM

Re: eBay Stealth Accts: 0/0 for almost 10 accounts in a row
 
What are you using to verify the PayPal?

Have you made sure flash cookies are disabled?

GreenBean 03-21-2015 09:48 AM

Re: eBay Stealth Accts: 0/0 for almost 10 accounts in a row
 
Random name generation is not the best option.

suspendedfoe 03-21-2015 12:35 PM

Re: eBay Stealth Accts: 0/0 for almost 10 accounts in a row
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mchgrt (Post 652489)
I've spent a lot of time lurking over the past few months and have decided to start my foray into stealth accts. I have got nothing but 0/0's, and a few upgrades after calling eBay.

I am using Google Chrome portable with a new EXE for each account. My IP is from AT&T tethering, and I log all IP's. My phone #'s are Google voice (is this the problem?). My names are randomly generated but street addresses are real. My paypal accounts are verified.

So basically for every account I create I am forced to call in and be at the mercy of the eBay tech on the line. A couple of times I have been given nominal upgrades. Most of the time they ask for ID verification.

Any thoughts on my methods, and any suggestions as to what I'm doing wrong?

GOOGLE VOICE SUCKS, stay away from google voice you seem to be in the u.s i will help you with anything else. you are doing everything just fine....google voice is your problem.

123 03-21-2015 02:19 PM

Re: eBay Stealth Accts: 0/0 for almost 10 accounts in a row
 
google voice is your problem, most people have problems with it

Kajunrook 03-21-2015 02:45 PM

Re: eBay Stealth Accts: 0/0 for almost 10 accounts in a row
 
I used google voice March 1st with no problem. You just need to log onto your gmail account to see if the verification text goes to email and not on phone. What other "cheap" options are there?

plumsake2 03-21-2015 02:50 PM

Re: eBay Stealth Accts: 0/0 for almost 10 accounts in a row
 
You can sometimes get away with using Google Voice/free phone services but more often than not you'll run into issues. It may not be your only problem, but changing to a prepaid phone is a good start to see if that fixes the problem.

Whatever the cheapest prepaid phone you can find will work wonders. Typically you can find a Tracofone or Net10 phone for $5 on sale at just about any store, or even online. $5 really isn't a lot of money when you consider the potential money you can make with an eBay account.

rainmaker 03-21-2015 06:09 PM

Re: eBay Stealth Accts: 0/0 for almost 10 accounts in a row
 
Google voice numbers are prolly overused that's why it is giving alot of people problems.

muzzie 03-21-2015 06:13 PM

Re: eBay Stealth Accts: 0/0 for almost 10 accounts in a row
 
Google Voice is your problem, overabused service. Get a prepaid sim, problem solved.

Dmshark25 03-21-2015 06:29 PM

Re: eBay Stealth Accts: 0/0 for almost 10 accounts in a row
 
You need to start over and come up with a whole new plan on building accounts. It's not a solid foundation

For one as someone mentioned your name picking method is terrible and needs to be re- thinked

Also you should make accounts using a new user account and than a separate browser

Portable browsers can work great but if you don't have a firm grasp than you could be making a huge mistake and whatever you do was doomed from the beginning

And than on top of all the shaky methods you use Google Voice, which may of been ok if the rest was solid, but using GV along with your other shaky work is just icing on a messed up cake

ricardosway8 03-21-2015 07:50 PM

Re: eBay Stealth Accts: 0/0 for almost 10 accounts in a row
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dmshark25 (Post 652662)
You need to start over and come up with a whole new plan on building accounts. It's not a solid foundation

For one as someone mentioned your name picking method is terrible and needs to be re- thinked

I support what Dmshark say %100. ebay as changed drastic over the year which means you need to make adjustment to your stealth creation techniques because i also think your name and address selection should also be re-think because that plays and important role in making new stealths that will bypass the ebay system were they will allows you to sell. GV is not the root of the problem because some other people have success using it.

martyjump 03-22-2015 03:35 AM

Re: eBay Stealth Accts: 0/0 for almost 10 accounts in a row
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ricardosway8 (Post 652679)
I support what Dmshark say %100. ebay as changed drastic over the year which means you need to make adjustment to your stealth creation techniques because i also think your name and address selection should also be re-think because that plays and important role in making new stealths that will bypass the ebay system were they will allows you to sell. GV is not the root of the problem because some other people have success using it.

What are you suggesting he do as far as selecting names/addresses?

muzzie 03-22-2015 03:42 AM

Re: eBay Stealth Accts: 0/0 for almost 10 accounts in a row
 
Random names, surnames, addresses. Different IPs for each account. All addresses from one city, where your postal office is located. There are no shortcuts while building a stealth properly.

Quote:

Originally Posted by martyjump (Post 652727)
What are you suggesting he do as far as selecting names/addresses?


rsot 03-22-2015 04:11 AM

Re: eBay Stealth Accts: 0/0 for almost 10 accounts in a row
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kajunrook (Post 652596)
I used google voice March 1st with no problem. You just need to log onto your gmail account to see if the verification text goes to email and not on phone. What other "cheap" options are there?

google is your friend for other options.

@OP, welcome to the forums - all the best with stealth

joesshooze 03-22-2015 11:18 AM

Re: eBay Stealth Accts: 0/0 for almost 10 accounts in a row
 
I wonder where you were lurking because it has been stated here that Google voice is not a good choice for stealth? Not to mention some of your other practices as have been pointed out. Try to follow some of the successes here and short cuts will be counter productive.

mchgrt 03-23-2015 01:25 AM

Re: eBay Stealth Accts: 0/0 for almost 10 accounts in a row
 
Thank you everyone for your replies! I agree that it seems GV is my problem. My Paypal is verified with a fresh US savings account, and a VCC.

I already ordered a Tracfone and will start fresh with that. If I may ask, what are the differences between a fresh portable installation and a new user account?

Thanks again for the replies

J dub 1984 03-23-2015 01:30 AM

Re: eBay Stealth Accts: 0/0 for almost 10 accounts in a row
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mchgrt (Post 652489)
I've spent a lot of time lurking over the past few months and have decided to start my foray into stealth accts. I have got nothing but 0/0's, and a few upgrades after calling eBay.

I am using Google Chrome portable with a new EXE for each account. My IP is from AT&T tethering, and I log all IP's. My phone #'s are Google voice (is this the problem?). My names are randomly generated but street addresses are real. My paypal accounts are verified.

So basically for every account I create I am forced to call in and be at the mercy of the eBay tech on the line. A couple of times I have been given nominal upgrades. Most of the time they ask for ID verification.

Any thoughts on my methods, and any suggestions as to what I'm doing wrong?

You know what the title of this thread reminded me of. You ever see the shawshank redemption when Andy tells the young guy ( later shot ) that may be he should stop stealing cars because of all the places he's been. Maybe you should do the same

plumsake2 03-23-2015 01:19 PM

Re: eBay Stealth Accts: 0/0 for almost 10 accounts in a row
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mchgrt (Post 652975)
Thank you everyone for your replies! I agree that it seems GV is my problem. My Paypal is verified with a fresh US savings account, and a VCC.

I already ordered a Tracfone and will start fresh with that. If I may ask, what are the differences between a fresh portable installation and a new user account?

Thanks again for the replies

If used properly they're the same. But there are a few functional differences.

With a portable browser you have the advantage of all of your stuff (the browser, cookies, history etc) together in one folder on your desktop. So if you ever need to move computers or anything like that, then you simply copy the portable browser folder over.

But as Dmshark alluded to, you have to be careful and use it properly or you can get linked using a portable browser (the key is to be sure to disable flash cookies).

My suggestion is to just use both. Create a new user account on your computer. That way your cookies and such will be separate from your main user account. Then download the portable browser of your choice (Firefox or Chrome) and keep it in that new user account. And as the first thing to do, make sure to disable flash cookies within that portable browser.

That way you have the best of both worlds.

wtfebay 03-24-2015 12:06 PM

Re: eBay Stealth Accts: 0/0 for almost 10 accounts in a row
 
A lot of people say use Tracfone....honestly, the best phone i have used is the cheap VZW prepaid ones. Its 12 bucks from Walmart i believe. You can load 5 bucks on it with CC and get your text verifications...itll last a month. Better than loading 15 or 20 bucks and not using it. All of my Paypal accounts are at 100% even though i never confirm mobile.

markcle 03-24-2015 06:57 PM

Re: eBay Stealth Accts: 0/0 for almost 10 accounts in a row
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by wtfebay (Post 653406)
A lot of people say use Tracfone....honestly, the best phone i have used is the cheap VZW prepaid ones. Its 12 bucks from Walmart i believe. You can load 5 bucks on it with CC and get your text verifications...itll last a month. Better than loading 15 or 20 bucks and not using it. All of my Paypal accounts are at 100% even though i never confirm mobile.

Ah, only in America! Here in Canada the cheapest prepaid will require a 2nd mortgage on your home ;-)

brownsuga 03-24-2015 10:34 PM

Re: eBay Stealth Accts: 0/0 for almost 10 accounts in a row
 
Don't phones use sim in America?

Drecn 03-24-2015 11:04 PM

Re: eBay Stealth Accts: 0/0 for almost 10 accounts in a row
 
hmmmm im wondering how long are u letting them sit
are u browsing and buying stuff b4 u start to make it a seller account
i just made two im still new but learning and i did this on a old pc(used b4) with a new user account both were limited to 0/0 im about to call and ask for a lil sumptin....but i feel like my attempt failed because i sold right away and i believe
my last one was linked
i want like 5 on each pc so far
i know how to do 1 on a pc but im still trying as a newbie i m so thankful for this forum

ricardosway8 03-25-2015 12:48 AM

Re: eBay Stealth Accts: 0/0 for almost 10 accounts in a row
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by brownsuga (Post 653514)
Don't phones use sim in America?

Yes they use SIM

six5eight 03-27-2015 11:05 AM

Re: eBay Stealth Accts: 0/0 for almost 10 accounts in a row
 
ebay can see your computer mac id,computer name etc..

mchgrt 03-28-2015 09:51 PM

Re: eBay Stealth Accts: 0/0 for almost 10 accounts in a row
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by six5eight (Post 654344)
ebay can see your computer mac id,computer name etc..

I've seen mixed reports on this in the forums. How would this even be possible?

MM78 03-28-2015 09:53 PM

Re: eBay Stealth Accts: 0/0 for almost 10 accounts in a row
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by six5eight (Post 654344)
ebay can see your computer mac id,computer name etc..

STOP! You already said the same thing on another post, EBAY/PP CANNOT SEE YOUR MAC ADDRESS.....Do you understand?

GreenBean 03-28-2015 11:20 PM

Re: eBay Stealth Accts: 0/0 for almost 10 accounts in a row
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by martyjump (Post 652727)
What are you suggesting he do as far as selecting names/addresses?

He uses some common sense for starters.

Maybe consider a trading name and getting access to a real address that he alone can use.

:violin:

GreenBean 03-28-2015 11:21 PM

Re: eBay Stealth Accts: 0/0 for almost 10 accounts in a row
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by six5eight (Post 654344)
ebay can see your computer mac id,computer name etc..

Listen: stop posting rubbish.

You are wrong again.

Newbies: disregard this bad info. Very very wrong :mad:

six5eight 03-29-2015 12:42 PM

Re: eBay Stealth Accts: 0/0 for almost 10 accounts in a row
 
i did try for troll
i first i wanna explain what happened in 2007,that time i have one workstation and i have 2 ebay account,i am try open another one but ebay do not let me open it,that time i am doing part time computer rapering,one guy bring me a computer,i am install new operating system (XP) i am try open new account this customer computer and still it can but i did not complate,that time i have only screen i am shut down and install my computer and without turn off ADSL modem i am try open new ebay account on my computer but ebay again do not let me do it,i am a inquisitive people i am try figure out ebay how to know my computer that time i am format my harddrive install new system and try again open new ebay account but ebay again do not let me do it,but i can still open with my customer computer and i am also open it that point clear ebay take my mac id and do not let me open new account!

let go back to 2014,last year i am start using my friend ebay account he is set up on own computer seller account(add credid card linked paypal etc)and gave me account login information,i am reset my browser i am deleted all cookies i am login account and try doing some listing but ebay do not let me listing any item,and still give me number for call ebay customer service she say are you using how many device for connect ebay? xxxx mac id is your computer or someone using your account?she is confirm my mac id and numbers %100 same with my computer mac id

another thing also happened last year,in China we must using VPN which is let me connect google facebook youtube etc. one time i am forget turn off before login ebay account ebay still can not resirve any item or still can not listing like last time ask me call customer service again she told me do not using many device using only one device if you always do like this maybe we can not active your account,this is happened coz when i using VPN that time i am connect with different mac id,this is also happened several time for paypal

so guys i am sharing with you my experience,if you want you can believe if you want you can say rubbish etc. hope this informations useful for you guys

and one more information,i have before livezilla on my web site,who is connect my web page i can see time zone,operation system,language browser version,computer name,ip addres,screen resolution (like 1024x768),i believe if i can see with small code these thins ebay can see many thing

dallis 03-29-2015 08:38 PM

Re: eBay Stealth Accts: 0/0 for almost 10 accounts in a row
 
They don't see machine name, details, motherboard serial number, etc, unless you've put EB software on your machine, then all bets are off.

I've had poor success lately with GV, changing to tracfone fixed the issue, I agree with the others.

mmartin9999 03-29-2015 09:27 PM

Re: eBay Stealth Accts: 0/0 for almost 10 accounts in a row
 
I've never had any luck with anything short of a physical phone. GV always led me to 0/0.

You have to pay to play.

I wouldn't be burning savings accounts until I got my process figured out. Better options out there until you can get over the 0/0's. Can always add the bank later.

mchgrt 03-30-2015 04:02 AM

Re: eBay Stealth Accts: 0/0 for almost 10 accounts in a row
 
Thanks for the replies. The Tracfone seems to have solved this 0/0 issue :)

rsot 03-30-2015 04:55 AM

Re: eBay Stealth Accts: 0/0 for almost 10 accounts in a row
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by brownsuga (Post 653514)
Don't phones use sim in America?

Of course - why?

mchgrt 04-01-2015 08:53 AM

Re: eBay Stealth Accts: 0/0 for almost 10 accounts in a row
 
Thanks for all the responses. I've created 45 accounts with >0/0 limits thanks to your recommendation for a Tracfone over Google Voice :)

rsot 04-01-2015 09:12 AM

Re: eBay Stealth Accts: 0/0 for almost 10 accounts in a row
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mchgrt (Post 655747)
Thanks for all the responses. I've created 45 accounts with >0/0 limits thanks to your recommendation for a Tracfone over Google Voice :)

Sweet - what an intense creation!

mchgrt 04-01-2015 10:48 AM

Re: eBay Stealth Accts: 0/0 for almost 10 accounts in a row
 
rsot, thanks for the nod :). Is it a problem to use the same Tracfone and just change the number? Will this come back to bite me? I've read on these fabulous forums that PayPal may ask for phone number validation before withdrawing. Can I just change my PayPal number to a new, valid Tracfone number before initiating a withdrawal? Or should I really be using one Tracfone per account, and keeping each Tracfone number valid and not letting it expire?

plumsake2 04-01-2015 11:51 AM

Re: eBay Stealth Accts: 0/0 for almost 10 accounts in a row
 
You wouldn't be able to add a number after getting that security message. Well you can - but it wouldn't fix the problem. Any number other than the one originally used to create the account would bring up a new error message saying that the number isn't registered in your name.

So keeping the original number is key to avoid problems like that in the future.

mchgrt 04-01-2015 11:58 AM

Re: eBay Stealth Accts: 0/0 for almost 10 accounts in a row
 
Thanks for that info. How about if I change the number BEFORE I withdraw? Or is it always the original number used to create the acct?

pr0wake 04-01-2015 12:19 PM

Re: eBay Stealth Accts: 0/0 for almost 10 accounts in a row
 
always the original number. so stop contacting us sellers with these accounts of yours for sale

jpinkman69s 04-05-2015 03:02 PM

Re: eBay Stealth Accts: 0/0 for almost 10 accounts in a row
 
so if we have GV confirmed PP but EB gives 0/0 limits for same GV number, it's best to trash both PP and EB accounts, not even bother calling in, since they are connected and just start over with new trac # on fresh new PP and EB or is there a salvage strategy? Just create another ebay using new trac # and then connect the old GV confirmed PP?

Use to be able to create new PP and EB using GV but looks like that's not very consistent anymore


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