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| freddyg | 05-27-2015 09:37 PM | Stealth Address After reading the stealth guide it seems that I can use almost any address on a stealth account. Is that really safe? At this time I am not concerned with returns. |
| CustomerServiceProTip | 05-28-2015 01:19 AM | Re: Stealth Address Well it's safe if that address was never used before, and you never know which address would be used. First you start off with family/friends/po boxes that you are allowed, after that random addresses would be preferred. |
| GhostOfAmazon | 05-28-2015 05:25 PM | Re: Stealth Address Quote:
Originally Posted by freddyg
(Post 672813)
After reading the stealth guide it seems that I can use almost any address on a stealth account. Is that really safe? At this time I am not concerned with returns. | Don't use retail addresses: i.e. McDonalds. I personally use apartment complexes....that way there's always plausible deniability, even if the address was used before. |
| webcreator | 05-31-2015 08:00 AM | Re: Stealth Address use real estate sites.. |
| notorious Eby | 06-01-2015 02:49 AM | Re: Stealth Address Realtor or zilliow is fine and if your Real crafty you can even find names at those addresses |
| boysangur | 06-04-2015 10:57 AM | Re: Stealth Address Any thoughts on using my apartment building, just without apartment number? |
| Knotorious | 06-04-2015 06:28 PM | Re: Stealth Address Quote:
Originally Posted by boysangur
(Post 674803)
Any thoughts on using my apartment building, just without apartment number? | Same question that popped in my head ?any ideas on this |
Re: Stealth Address Quote:
Originally Posted by freddyg
(Post 672813)
After reading the stealth guide it seems that I can use almost any address on a stealth account. Is that really safe? At this time I am not concerned with returns. | Just to put your mind at rest, even if by chance you create an account and there's someone living there using ebay who also got suspended - I mean what are the chances? - but anyway, you still wont be linked. ebay understands family members under same household use multiple accounts. You now need to hope all other factors i.e. items you sell etc. are unique. Now if they by chance happen to be similar to that of the suspended account in that household, then your probably at risk.
Dont worry too much about address, focus more on making other factors unique. |
| GreenBean | 06-04-2015 06:49 PM | Re: Stealth Address Quote:
Originally Posted by boysangur
(Post 674803)
Any thoughts on using my apartment building, just without apartment number? | For eBay USA that can fail the address check and trip MC999
Have a proper address that is accessible. |
| EWHendo | 03-05-2016 03:27 PM | Re: Stealth Address Is this safe?
Both myself and my wife were suspended years ago. We have moved, gotten new phone numbers, etc.
I have an account up and running with our new address attached. There is a house two doors down from us that in uninhabited. I want to get a second new account started in my wife's name.
Would it be okay to use that address, two doors down from mine, or would that seem suspicious? Her account was linked to mine before I think.
Also, if ever anything needs to be returned, or I want to make purchases to make the account look more legit, does it work to use USPS mail forwarding from an address elsewhere?
Thanks! |
| celebrityphotos4you | 03-05-2016 04:02 PM | Re: Stealth Address If the new account is going to be a selling account only, there is no problem using that uninhabited house. You just have to make sure to put a note with an address that CAN be used just in case a buyer needs to make a return. |
| phaz0rz | 03-06-2016 08:21 AM | Re: Stealth Address Quote:
Originally Posted by EWHendo
(Post 752537)
Is this safe?
Also, if ever anything needs to be returned, or I want to make purchases to make the account look more legit, does it work to use USPS mail forwarding from an address elsewhere?
Thanks! | That's not a viable solution for returns in the long run. When you move and apply for mail forwarding, USPS will only forward your mail for 6 months. |
| samspalace | 03-06-2016 02:48 PM | Re: Stealth Address I go by location.. If I have a dedicated ip address in London. I will create an account in London. I will also type in Google "houses to rent in london" I will then choose a house find out how many house numbers their are on the street and if 100 is the maximum house number on the street. I will then add my own address number so I woud add 101 knowing that nobody would of ever lived their as the house number is made up. |
| mrcoolest | 03-06-2016 05:47 PM | Re: Stealth Address Quote:
Originally Posted by samspalace
(Post 752763)
I go by location.. If I have a dedicated ip address in London. I will create an account in London. I will also type in Google "houses to rent in london" I will then choose a house find out how many house numbers their are on the street and if 100 is the maximum house number on the street. I will then add my own address number so I woud add 101 knowing that nobody would of ever lived their as the house number is made up. | What happens is eBay want to do address verification by sending the code to the address? |
| realdeals | 03-06-2016 06:01 PM | Re: Stealth Address Quote:
Originally Posted by mrcoolest
(Post 752791)
What happens is eBay want to do address verification by sending the code to the address? | The chances of this happening in UK are close to zero nowadays. |
| EWHendo | 03-06-2016 07:24 PM | Re: Stealth Address Quote:
Originally Posted by phaz0rz
(Post 752685)
That's not a viable solution for returns in the long run. When you move and apply for mail forwarding, USPS will only forward your mail for 6 months. | It is a very simple form used to set up mail forwarding. Seems I could fill out a new one every six months or so. |
| mrcoolest | 03-08-2016 07:24 AM | Re: Stealth Address Quote:
Originally Posted by realdeals
(Post 752799)
The chances of this happening in UK are close to zero nowadays. | I was on eBay about 3 years ago buy I got banned then. EBay would send a code to your address to verify you have access to that address. Don't they do that anymore? |
| realdeals | 03-08-2016 07:40 AM | Re: Stealth Address Quote:
Originally Posted by mrcoolest
(Post 753140)
I was on eBay about 3 years ago buy I got banned then. EBay would send a code to your address to verify you have access to that address. Don't they do that anymore? | As I said, nowadays the chances of them sending a code to your address is close to zero.
Ebay and Paypal change all the time, therefore so does stealth. LOTS has changed in the last 3 years, for sure. |
| palmer050 | 05-18-2016 05:10 PM | Re: Stealth Address Quote:
Originally Posted by mrcoolest
(Post 753140)
I was on eBay about 3 years ago buy I got banned then. EBay would send a code to your address to verify you have access to that address. Don't they do that anymore? | Yes they do.
I had to provide them a code they sent me through the other week after requesting higher seller limits via chat. |
Re: Stealth Address Quote:
Originally Posted by mrcoolest
(Post 753140)
I was on eBay about 3 years ago buy I got banned then. EBay would send a code to your address to verify you have access to that address. Don't they do that anymore? | Its uncommon. But yes they do. |
| Aguero | 12-08-2017 02:13 PM | Re: Stealth Address Quote:
Originally Posted by Play
(Post 674921)
Just to put your mind at rest, even if by chance you create an account and there's someone living there using ebay who also got suspended - I mean what are the chances? - but anyway, you still wont be linked. ebay understands family members under same household use multiple accounts. You now need to hope all other factors i.e. items you sell etc. are unique. Now if they by chance happen to be similar to that of the suspended account in that household, then your probably at risk.
Dont worry too much about address, focus more on making other factors unique. | As I understand correct I do not have to worry too much about the address. When i made my first eBay/PayPal stealths i only matched the numeric portion of my bank card address, address i used exist but with different real ZIP code. I was worried about do they can check geolocation, can they see my real address ?
All other factors i.e. items you sell etc.are unique - like photos, background, listings, IP, phone, name, DOB, adrress. Do i miss something ?
Thanks |
Re: Stealth Address Quote:
Originally Posted by Aguero
(Post 889128)
As I understand correct I do not have to worry too much about the address. When i made my first eBay/PayPal stealths i only matched the numeric portion of my bank card address, address i used exist but with different real ZIP code. I was worried about do they can check geolocation, can they see my real address ?
All other factors i.e. items you sell etc.are unique - like photos, background, listings, IP, phone, name, DOB, adrress. Do i miss something ?
Thanks | Give the stealth guide a read - it will cover the ground work for you, so you know you've covered it all. |
| Aguero | 12-18-2017 11:49 AM | Re: Stealth Address I read in the Stealth Guide that when i choose an address it should be listed in my general area, usually within 100 miles of my IP address. And the best option is real address which i can access.
Is it good idea to choose an real address in my neighborhood with same ZIP code, and i can just mix the numeric portions i.e. entry №, floor №, apartment №, to pass AVS check ?
Thanks in advance |
Re: Stealth Address Quote:
Originally Posted by Aguero
(Post 890829)
I read in the Stealth Guide that when i choose an address it should be listed in my general area, usually within 100 miles of my IP address. And the best option is real address which i can access.
Is it good idea to choose an real address in my neighborhood with same ZIP code, and i can just mix the numeric portions i.e. entry №, floor №, apartment №, to pass AVS check ?
Thanks in advance | I would say, so long as the IP address is within the same country, you should be fine.
As for address, the reason why it says an address to which you have access is so you can deal with returns. Otherwise you wont have access to your returns. |
| Aguero | 12-18-2017 02:27 PM | Re: Stealth Address Ok. Thanks. :thumb:
Address is in the same city and matches IP address city, also ZIP code matches the ZIP code on my debit card. I was worrying about can eBay and PayPal in some way checked the address ? Here in Bulgaria there is no such register/database like UK and US. |
Re: Stealth Address Quote:
Originally Posted by Aguero
(Post 890879)
Ok. Thanks. :thumb:
Address is in the same city and matches IP address city, also ZIP code matches the ZIP code on my debit card. I was worrying about can eBay and PayPal in some way checked the address ? Here in Bulgaria there is no such register/database like UK and US. | At the very least they should be able to cross check the "numbers" on the address against the "numbers" on your card - to see if they match, partially match, or dont match at all. |
| Aguero | 12-18-2017 03:40 PM | Re: Stealth Address OK. And i dont need real address ? |
Re: Stealth Address Quote:
Originally Posted by Aguero
(Post 890892)
OK. And i dont need real address ? | Back to my previous post, you need an address you have access to (for returns), one thats not been used before. |
| SaiJin | 12-19-2017 09:51 AM | Re: Stealth Address Do you have a mailbox you can rent in your country? Or if you live in a smaller town, perhaps make a deal with a person you know to receive your parcels. |
| Aguero | 12-19-2017 10:41 AM | Re: Stealth Address Quote:
Originally Posted by Play
(Post 891032)
Back to my previous post, you need an address you have access to (for returns), one thats not been used before. | Ok. I got this. And i can choose any address in my town ? |
| Aguero | 12-19-2017 10:43 AM | Re: Stealth Address Quote:
Originally Posted by SaiJin
(Post 891034)
Do you have a mailbox you can rent in your country? Or if you live in a smaller town, perhaps make a deal with a person you know to receive your parcels. | Yes i can have a mailbox, but i can receive only non registered mail. And i dont know, what address will have with this mailbox. |
Re: Stealth Address Quote:
Originally Posted by Aguero
(Post 891042)
Ok. I got this. And i can choose any address in my town ? | Yes. So long as its not been used on one of your other ebay accounts before (or it could link it). |
| Aguero | 12-19-2017 12:33 PM | Re: Stealth Address Thanks a lot again :thumb:
I hope you enjoy a wonderful Christmas! |
| SaiJin | 12-21-2017 11:33 AM | Re: Stealth Address Quote:
Originally Posted by Aguero
(Post 891043)
Yes i can have a mailbox, but i can receive only non registered mail. And i dont know, what address will have with this mailbox. |
Any address that's different than the previous one you used before. |
| Aguero | 12-25-2017 08:02 AM | Re: Stealth Address Good. I was trying to match the ZIP code and trying to find real address in ZIP code area. |
Re: Stealth Address Quote:
Originally Posted by Aguero
(Post 892048)
Good. I was trying to match the ZIP code and trying to find real address in ZIP code area. | That wont be necessary. Just an address you have access to for returns will suffice. |
| Aguero | 12-25-2017 10:18 AM | Re: Stealth Address Cool. I made last stealth with matching ZIP code. Will see how it works.
Two weeks eBay browsing enough to make history before making first listing and do i need to browse PayPal too ? |
Re: Stealth Address Quote:
Originally Posted by Aguero
(Post 892066)
Cool. I made last stealth with matching ZIP code. Will see how it works.
Two weeks eBay browsing enough to make history before making first listing and do i need to browse PayPal too ? | A few different days of browsing history would suffice. Good idea to click a bunch of links on PayPal - that would suffice. |
| Aguero | 12-25-2017 12:51 PM | Re: Stealth Address Few different days, this will make things to move a lot faster. Thanks for the PayPal too. |
Re: Stealth Address Quote:
Originally Posted by Aguero
(Post 892087)
Few different days, this will make things to move a lot faster. Thanks for the PayPal too. | Browsing history isn't as significant as you think. You don't really need to spend weeks browsing - So long as you start by selling low risk items, that would suffice. Though a bit of browsing history does help. | | All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:36 AM. | |
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