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Paypal is still owned by Ebay. Paypal grows around 15 to 18 percent each year. Ebay has GROWN on average 10% each year for the last 5 years.
Whiners have GROWN exponentially because they want to blame everyone/thing else for their short comings.

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PayPal numbers bad first quarter as separate company. So I do not think they can do it. Plus there too much potential replacements looking for them to give them an opening. But it also good to prepare for worse-case.

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you don't think they can do what?

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yes, same 3 products

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I already explained it.

Being a separate company, PayPal is going to start moving more towards the financial sector, rather than being eBays slave.

This, by it's nature, will require more risk. Thus, they will be harder on accounts.

I can't predict the future, but this is my guess based on the path they seem to be following. Don't go and buy stock based on my opinion though.

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too late :doh:

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any one else aside from me keeping track of monthly sales volume the past couple of years?

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looks like it's just you...

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Since the July split it's been progressively getting worse by the week. sales have halved since then.

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Well, I'm just hoping the craziness starts soon... it's been quiet and every year it starts later and later

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I like to finish my buying week before Thanksgiving. I do not like buying in December. My buying peaked in October and am slacking off now.

But I notice most people not like me.

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Well nothing last forever guys. Most probably ebay is losing alot of customers also as well as sellers with all the crazy bans ebay does. Less sellers able to sell and buyers not being able to buy what they want from less sellers. I'm telling you this new world order is killing the free market.

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My experience has been opposite. eBay allowing lots of brand name phakes to once again flood their site in many areas. Seems to be multiple buyer complaints before being removed. Granted eBay has always been known for some crazy suspensions it seems to have laxed up big time the last few months since the split. I agree with some of the other posts, I expect PayPal to get stricter about items being sold that they process in the future.

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I don't see PP changing at all at EB except when/if they get sold off. Why? It's all about risk. Tighten the risk fewer the sales. Eb I agree they lightened up big time because they have to show investors that they have real progress now that they are alone without PP's profits boosting the way they look on paper.

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I was reading on eBay forums over the past couple years about how eBay flipped a switch around this time of the year then flip it back on so we see a sudden dramatic surge in sales all of a sudden all through Christmas.

Do you really believe this?

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No.
Why would ebay want less revenue the remainder of the year?

Also, MOST big box stores do 80% of profit fourth quarter.

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well problem is this is when we get busy but for some reason it's not

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Holiday sales season really does not start until Thanksgiving week and more so after black Friday. Everyone wants to know what the black Friday and cyber Monday steals are before spending money.

The first three weeks of November are historically slow for me. I plan my fall vacations this month for this reason.

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Declining sales necessitates new research of products and adjustment of listings/competition handling

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I think its still early, give it about a week or so, things will pick up.

Plus, not sure where you guys are, but the weather is still decent here so "cabin fever" hasn't quite set in yet. Once we start getting some snow, things will pick up haha.

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I'm currently in USA.

And speaking of weather I'm also wondering about that.
it's sunnier than last year here in fact it's around 50F and goes down to 30f at night and I wonder if that plays a role and people wanna be outside as much as they can while it lasts, thus no online buying.

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Well I believe before first BangBang almost all of us not only have been selling but also buying actively in which case eBay lost potential buyers as stealthers don't buy as much as before of eBay

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I dont think weather has too much effect anymore, most of my payments are done through mobile checkout. With smartphones buyers now have the ability to make a purchase wherever they are with their phones . So it's not like they need to be in their house on a desktop anymore

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I really hope you are right.

I'm in USA right now. DMshark said something about weather doesn't play a role in online sales.

I'm running 8 stealth accounts at the moment, like everyone else on here my sales have been dwindling for the past couple of months. It usually picks up for me around December, I'm not a huge eBay seller though. I sell laptops, tablets, cell phones, stuff like that. Usually the lower end electronics I get I'll sell on my eBay stealth accounts and the higher end stuff goes to my Amazon account. I frankly don't trust eBay at all, now with PayPal branching off onto its own I'm sure it will only get harder to sell on eBay. If you guys aren't banned from Amazon, I'd highly advise you to start building up your sellers account. It's always a good thing to put your sales across many different platforms if possible. Are people getting away with doing stealth on Amazon?

And please excuse my english/grammar!

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The rise of Amazon is also the decline of ebay. Plus, Amazon touts Black Friday so much that people are holding on...

Even my church that bought ebay in the past is now a prime member and loves the free 2 day shipping....

Even more crazy is that Amazon sells some thing so low that many suppliers cant even compete. I can get some things pre-sale cheaper on Amazon then with supplier. Amazon has deals directly with most companies and have no need for middle man.

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Amazon is a great platform for major companies, small businesses, and the average everyday seller. You don't have to create fancy listings, all you do is list a very minor detailed description and list your price.

Amazon reviews sick though, 8 years of selling on the same account and I still get 1-3 reviews a year.

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For me January usually are pretty slow. Everyone spend a lot of money before xmas and after that they want to save it bit more...

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Only auction site I done good with was back when StormPay ran free one if used there pay processor.

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Your sales may be dwindling but your spirit is very much alive

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paypal needs reinvention.

Needs to shovel a lot excrement to get back to being "liked".

:ranger:

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Yankee do you think we'll still see posts on this thread in December?

:rant:

lol

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Competition may arise to force his hand :mad:

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IMO , ebay is backbone for Paypal, where paypal earns more money combined to any other portals/online stores.

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haha that's the spirit keeping the positive vibes up are key- never let ebay beat you down lol

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All this talk about ebay and PP separating, but does it have to do with this thread?

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Hmm... I made some decent % of sales over the weekend, and today Monday... 0 views on most items.

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when does it pick up ?

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Well, everyone kept saying Thanks giving and black friday are the main triggers, but I was hoping to start now... I'm just getting a little nervous as history shows that the starting time has been later and later each year ...

This year especially is important for me

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sales are slow right now for me also but it usually is slow around November hope it picks up after thanks giving