| | | manoverde | 12-22-2015 11:47 AM | How to sale the same products on 20 accounts? Hello,
How can i sale the same product on 20 diferent accounts?
Do we need to change images?
Do we need to change Descriptions or tags?
Please advise any information.
Thank you |
| ilcarletto | 12-22-2015 11:59 AM | Re: How to sale the same products on 20 accounts? You need to change everything.
images
description
html template (if any)
and everything you possibly could think of. |
Re: How to sale the same products on 20 accounts? Quote:
Originally Posted by ilcarletto
(Post 730431)
You need to change everything.
images
description
html template (if any)
and everything you possibly could think of. | 100% Solid Advice, I would suggest you listen and take note. You should also and if possible modify the price a little, if you list the same item for the same price on all 20 accounts.....someone might assume it's the same person but that's just my opinion. |
| Trustfund | 12-22-2015 01:49 PM | Re: How to sale the same products on 20 accounts? strip all EXIF data also |
| feadup | 12-22-2015 02:28 PM | Re: How to sale the same products on 20 accounts? also
1- price range
2- shipping fee and method if possible
3- shipping time ( same day , 1 day , 2 days )
4- Description |
| phaz0rz | 12-22-2015 02:36 PM | Re: How to sale the same products on 20 accounts? Quote:
Originally Posted by feadup
(Post 730466)
also
2- shipping fee and method if possible
3- shipping time ( same day , 1 day , 2 days ) | I think your 2 and 3 are a bit overboard. I use free USPS shipping with 1 day handling time for almost everything on all of my accounts. If I'm selling something I already am selling on another account, I make a new title, description, and take new photos + strip data.
I doubt a linkage would ever happen solely because of a common shipping method and handling time, since so many sellers use the same service. Plus everyone wants to be top rated, so handling time is pretty consistent across eBay.
I guess it doesn't hurt anything to make the changes you suggest, but I don't think it's necessary. It would be a major hassle if I had to use a different shipping company for each account, lol.. |
| feadup | 12-22-2015 02:50 PM | Re: How to sale the same products on 20 accounts? Quote:
Originally Posted by phaz0rz
(Post 730471)
I think your 2 and 3 are a bit overboard. I use free USPS shipping with 1 day handling time for almost everything on all of my accounts. If I'm selling something I already am selling on another account, I make a new title, description, and take new photos + strip data.
I doubt a linkage would ever happen solely because of a common shipping method and handling time, since so many sellers use the same service. Plus everyone wants to be top rated, so handling time is pretty consistent across eBay.
I guess it doesn't hurt anything to make the changes you suggest, but I don't think it's necessary. It would be a major hassle if I had to use a different shipping company for each account, lol.. | if you do not understand how Ebay works, then you have to review your strategy...
Ebay has special formulas for every page including the selling page itself, ( like credit score )
I do not know if you will understand this or not...
yes many sellers can use the same exact shipping method....BUT
all of them are using..
selling the same item?
Same shipping method?
same handling time?
same number of pictures?
same number of words in the description?
same distraction fonts and format?
that's only small part on the selling page., think again!!! Ebay nor paypal are idiots |
| dan_ebay | 12-22-2015 03:10 PM | Re: How to sale the same products on 20 accounts? Just have to use your brain and make it look normal, if theres only 20 other listings you need to make sure everything is very different. If theres 1000 other listings with 90% using the same few stock images then you can be more lazy |
| phaz0rz | 12-22-2015 03:51 PM | Re: How to sale the same products on 20 accounts? Quote:
Originally Posted by feadup
(Post 730472)
if you do not understand how Ebay works, then you have to review your strategy...
Ebay has special formulas for every page including the selling page itself, ( like credit score )
I do not know if you will understand this or not...
yes many sellers can use the same exact shipping method....BUT
all of them are using..
selling the same item?
Same shipping method?
same handling time?
same number of pictures?
same number of words in the description?
same distraction fonts and format?
that's only small part on the selling page., think again!!! Ebay nor paypal are idiots | I have a pretty firm grasp on how eBay works. My strategy is profitable and I have a degree in computer science, for whatever that's worth.
I only disagreed with you on what you said about shipping and handling. Of course you will be linked if you use an identical description on 20 listings, down to the number of letters.
But, I do not know if you will understand this or not. |
| feadup | 12-22-2015 05:07 PM | Re: How to sale the same products on 20 accounts? Quote:
Originally Posted by phaz0rz
(Post 730485)
I have a pretty firm grasp on how eBay works. My strategy is profitable and I have a degree in computer science, for whatever that's worth.
I only disagreed with you on what you said about shipping and handling. Of course you will be linked if you use an identical description on 20 listings, down to the number of letters.
But, I do not know if you will understand this or not. | sure I did not understand!! you are the one with computer science :D
PS. on Ebay you do not need computer science ..you need a brain :) |
| GreenBean | 12-22-2015 05:19 PM | Re: How to sale the same products on 20 accounts? Quote:
Originally Posted by manoverde
(Post 730429)
Hello,
How can i sale the same product on 20 diferent accounts?
Do we need to change images?
Do we need to change Descriptions or tags?
Please advise any information.
Thank you | To do that you need 20 different accounts. Different in every single way.
Your plan would need to be precise down to every detail.
:juggle: |
Re: How to sale the same products on 20 accounts? Quote:
Originally Posted by manoverde
(Post 730429)
Hello,
How can i sale the same product on 20 diferent accounts?
Do we need to change images?
Do we need to change Descriptions or tags?
Please advise any information.
Thank you | Everything must be different to avoid linking.
Make sure you can operate 20 accounts well. IF not, then you're not ready. |
| empirestate | 12-22-2015 09:29 PM | Re: How to sale the same products on 20 accounts? A waste of time... |
| Burger Box Man | 12-23-2015 06:27 AM | Re: How to sale the same products on 20 accounts? 20 accounts is a bit excessive to list the exact same thing. I think every 3 or 4 accounts you could get away with same listing. |
| yankee | 12-23-2015 03:24 PM | Re: How to sale the same products on 20 accounts? Is the product that hot that you need 20 accounts selling the same item at the same time?
If so, because of limits? Gaining market share? visibility? |
| manoverde | 12-23-2015 04:41 PM | Re: How to sale the same products on 20 accounts? Quote:
Originally Posted by yankee
(Post 730710)
Is the product that hot that you need 20 accounts selling the same item at the same time?
If so, because of limits? Gaining market share? visibility? | Sure, i notice this product is selling very well each day.
about 100-150 items per day and only one seller almost no competition. |
| jakobrockz | 12-23-2015 05:15 PM | Re: How to sale the same products on 20 accounts? And what was your niche again? :laugh: |
| bjammin | 12-23-2015 05:20 PM | Re: How to sale the same products on 20 accounts? opinions vary, but you just want it to look differently, as much as possible. that is the best strategy. |
| GreenBean | 12-23-2015 05:33 PM | Re: How to sale the same products on 20 accounts? Quote:
Originally Posted by manoverde
(Post 730731)
Sure, i notice this product is selling very well each day.
about 100-150 items per day and only one seller almost no competition. | And you thnk by swamping the market with your 20 accounts this will work?
I sense that one competitor going to battle stations at once.
To paraphase a certain user "all the best as you experiment and report back to us."
:pop2: |
| yankee | 12-23-2015 06:04 PM | Re: How to sale the same products on 20 accounts? I would not enter the market with many accounts all at once. Maybe add one a week, etc... You are not in a saturated market so, try getting as many HIGH DOLLAR sales as possible would be my approach. Similar to amazon. No need for a race to the bottom if the single other seller is smart. |
| oompaloompa | 12-24-2015 03:29 PM | Re: How to sale the same products on 20 accounts? why would you do that anyway? sell the same products on multi accounts. Is it because you do not have high enough limits per account?
do you mean the exact same products or similar catagory type. |
| manoverde | 12-24-2015 03:37 PM | Re: How to sale the same products on 20 accounts? Quote:
Originally Posted by oompaloompa
(Post 730938)
why would you do that anyway? sell the same products on multi accounts. Is it because you do not have high enough limits per account?
do you mean the exact same products or similar catagory type. | No, But your opinion sounds great putting the item on the different category
Im doing this because i notice that they always leave a image for each shop on the front page of the category, So my goal is to have many products on the front page to get most of the traffic search. |
| phaz0rz | 12-24-2015 04:30 PM | Re: How to sale the same products on 20 accounts? Quote:
Originally Posted by manoverde
(Post 730940)
No, But your opinion sounds great putting the item on the different category
Im doing this because i notice that they always leave a image for each shop on the front page of the category, So my goal is to have many products on the front page to get most of the traffic search. | You can list the item a lot of times on a lot of accounts, but putting the same item in different categories is a bad idea. I've read countless stories here of sellers doing just that, and having the listing removed if eBay doesn't agree with the category it's listed in. Your results will be better if you keep your listing practices as legitimate as possible.
What you need to do if you've really found that golden niche with no competition, is just create unique listings on each account. Use a different background, use different cameras/phones, completely change the title and description each time, wipe EXIF data from images, change up the price (but keep it as high as possible for as long as possible). Someone mentioned varying the handling time but I wouldn't recommend doing that if you want to be on the first page. You won't get linked by a common shipping method and handling time.
If you're successful and you get 20 unique listings up, you will still always have some listings that outperform others. Nobody knows exactly how eBay calculates search result position, but it seems random sometimes. |
| manoverde | 12-24-2015 04:34 PM | Re: How to sale the same products on 20 accounts? Quote:
Originally Posted by phaz0rz
(Post 730958)
You can list the item a lot of times on a lot of accounts, but putting the same item in different categories is a bad idea. I've read countless stories here of sellers doing just that, and having the listing removed if eBay doesn't agree with the category it's listed in. Your results will be better if you keep your listing practices as legitimate as possible.
What you need to do if you've really found that golden niche with no competition, is just create unique listings on each account. Use a different background, use different cameras/phones, completely change the title and description each time, wipe EXIF data from images, change up the price (but keep it as high as possible for as long as possible). Someone mentioned varying the handling time but I wouldn't recommend doing that if you want to be on the first page. You won't get linked by a common shipping method and handling time.
If you're successful and you get 20 unique listings up, you will still always have some listings that outperform others. Nobody knows exactly how eBay calculates search result position, but it seems random sometimes. | Do i need to use other phone for pictures even if i delete all the exif data?? |
| yankee | 12-24-2015 04:38 PM | Re: How to sale the same products on 20 accounts? Quote:
Originally Posted by manoverde
(Post 730960)
Do i need to use other phone for pictures even if i delete all the exif data?? | No but using multiple cameras makes each image look unique. No two devices will take the exact same picture if that makes sense.
Different angles, close ups, some with a background, etc...all will hel with this as well.
Oftentimes I have someone take pictures. I have a hard time breaking from my personal techniques even when I try. |
| phaz0rz | 12-24-2015 04:38 PM | Re: How to sale the same products on 20 accounts? No, not necessarily. That's just an added precaution to make the photo look different, since you mentioned using so many different account. I use the same phone to take all of my photos. I just make sure lighting is different, background is different, etc..
Rule of thumb: make everything as different as possible.
I also recommend renaming all of the files once you get them off your phone. If you have IMG_0001 & IMG_0002 uploaded to one account, then upload IMG_0003 & IMG_0004 to a different account selling exactly the same item, you're at risk. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out what you're doing in that case, even if you wipe EXIF |
| brandnewboss | 12-24-2015 06:07 PM | Re: How to sale the same products on 20 accounts? I used to do this on 100 accounts before, what I did was take different pics within different areas of the house and combine those with some google images and stock photo's. Then for title and description I'd make my own variations than mix that in with other's found on the web which I'd edit. Then I'd list each listing at different times throughout the day so they never showed up on the same page. |
| phaz0rz | 12-24-2015 06:58 PM | Re: How to sale the same products on 20 accounts? Quote:
Originally Posted by brandnewboss
(Post 730979)
I used to do this on 100 accounts before, what I did was take different pics within different areas of the house and combine those with some google images and stock photo's. Then for title and description I'd make my own variations than mix that in with other's found on the web which I'd edit. Then I'd list each listing at different times throughout the day so they never showed up on the same page. | 100 accounts eh? That's a hell of an operation. Congrats to you on that.
I hate stock photos. I'd rather take my own terrible picture than use someone else's professional photo and potentially get my listing pulled. I don't do many auctions though. I guess there is less risk when the listing is only going to be active for 7 days. As for the listing position, I'm pretty sure (but not 100% sure) that OP was talking about BIN listings. He wanted to have them all on the first page. | | All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:15 PM. | |
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