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HAHlala 05-04-2016 07:30 AM

Is stealth eBay your full time job?
 
Just curious do many of your make your full time living with stealth accounts? Or do you also have other jobs?

I make my living selling online on a few different platforms and have done for 4+ years now but I'm interested in hearing from others and hearing what platforms you sell on.

phaz0rz 05-04-2016 07:37 AM

Re: Is stealth eBay your full time job?
 
It's full time for me, with one full-time helper and one part-time helper.

JamesNorth101 05-04-2016 08:06 AM

Re: Is stealth eBay your full time job?
 
Selling online and trading online is full time for me. Not all just eBay, but eBay takes up a good chunk of the day

rsot 05-04-2016 08:16 AM

Re: Is stealth eBay your full time job?
 
There are quite a few posts on this - it keeps coming up...there was one recently....trying to find it...

I use online sales to keep my skills up and move some items when I can. I work fulltime, run a product-fulfillment business and consult with an old company every few weekends.

dan_ebay 05-04-2016 10:09 AM

Re: Is stealth eBay your full time job?
 
was making about £1500 a month before stealth 2 years ago. Main account got a 30 day ban, found this forum and started making/buying loads of accounts.
30 day ebay ban was the best thing that ever happened to me.

More focused on my websites now, have my cousin working for me doing most of the ebay /amazon stuff and others to pack.
Plus the email list of 50k+ ex customers its got me all in my niche is priceless. Every time a new product comes out I email them all a giveaway and my facebook lights up like a pic of kim k's ass has been posted

Play 05-04-2016 10:20 AM

Re: Is stealth eBay your full time job?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by phaz0rz (Post 768086)
It's full time for me, with one full-time helper and one part-time helper.

Of the hundreds of items you probably sell, if your like me, you would have a handful with suppliers that are readily available and easily found. How do you deal with that? - considering your 'helpers' could easily start sourcing and selling those same products?

That's my only fear getting helpers!

zenohki 05-04-2016 10:44 AM

Re: Is stealth eBay your full time job?
 
I still have my first ebay account which covers about 40% of my business, 50% comes through stealth accounts, the remaining 10% is from my website/other sales sites/direct orders. Full time online sales is the best job I have ever had :D

zenohki 05-04-2016 10:47 AM

Re: Is stealth eBay your full time job?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Play (Post 768144)
Of the hundreds of items you probably sell, if your like me, you would have a handful with suppliers that are readily available and easily found. How do you deal with that? - considering your 'helpers' could easily start sourcing and selling those same products?

That's my only fear getting helpers!

Haha I was once that sort of helper, or at least I ran my business as a hobby while I worked for what could be seen as a sort of competitor. Sadly his business sense was very very poor and I got more sales and profit doing it as a hobby :laugh:

yankee 05-04-2016 10:58 AM

Re: Is stealth eBay your full time job?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Play (Post 768144)
How do you deal with that? - considering your 'helpers' could easily start sourcing and selling those same products?

That's my only fear getting helpers!


Very few people are motivated to work for themselves. Also very few people have funds to invest.

I would say 1 in several thousand people have the desire, mentality and ability to do it.

Heck, I have worked with several members on this site that don't have what it takes.

HAHlala 05-04-2016 11:20 AM

Re: Is stealth eBay your full time job?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by yankee (Post 768169)
Very few people are motivated to work for themselves. Also very few people have funds to invest.

I would say 1 in several thousand people have the desire, mentality and ability to do it.

Heck, I have worked with several members on this site that don't have what it takes.

100% agree with this. I used to worry that people would becomes competitors as many people I know in real life know what I sell and how much I sell of it but I know for a fact they wouldn't know where to start when it comes to selling online, nor would they know where to buy and how it all works.

I think a lot of people on the outside think selling online and finding products to sell is a piece of cake. It definitely gets easier after doing it for so many years but its not something everyone and anyone is capable of. You will find that the majority of people in life are content in dead end jobs working for someone else and have no desire for ever working for themselves and making a lot of money (something I've never understood). I now have a couple of 'employees' but I know they have no interest in doing it for themselves so I don't worry about it.

Klemantina 05-04-2016 11:55 AM

Re: Is stealth eBay your full time job?
 
Full time with part time employees.
A lot of people really want to work for themselves but they don't have the self discipline that it requires. I tried to help hundreds of people but only few of them managed to make money and only 2 of them are still doing this part time. Some people just can't understand how things work, some of them think it's too risky and doesn't worth it and the worst cases are the people that lack the confidence, they just don't believe they can do it.

foolishheart 05-04-2016 12:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JamesNorth101 (Post 768093)
Selling online and trading online is full time for me. Not all just eBay, but eBay takes up a good chunk of the day

I'm not full full time, but it sure seems like it

JamesNorth101 05-04-2016 12:26 PM

Re: Is stealth eBay your full time job?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by yankee (Post 768169)
Very few people are motivated to work for themselves. Also very few people have funds to invest.

I would say 1 in several thousand people have the desire, mentality and ability to do it.

Heck, I have worked with several members on this site that don't have what it takes.

I have to agree with that

I find it a bit weird to be honest when someone has the opportunity to make a good solid living working for themselves instead chooses to work a 9 to 5 job because working for themselves seems like 'too much hard work'

yaBeh8ater 05-04-2016 12:55 PM

Re: Is stealth eBay your full time job?
 
ebay is full time for me. i also have a website but still has 0 sales.

phaz0rz 05-04-2016 01:28 PM

Re: Is stealth eBay your full time job?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Play (Post 768144)
Of the hundreds of items you probably sell, if your like me, you would have a handful with suppliers that are readily available and easily found. How do you deal with that? - considering your 'helpers' could easily start sourcing and selling those same products?

That's my only fear getting helpers!

I'm married to my full-time helper, and my part-time helper has absolutely no desire/motivation/knowledge to start a business. So I'm not too worried about them stealing business secrets, lol.

Where I'm from it's VERY easy to find an unemployed person who will fill orders all day for $150/week.

Edit: I read yankee's post after I responded, but I 100% agree with him. 99% of people are perfectly content with working 40hrs per week for a fixed income, and would never even consider starting a business.

dealagreeproceed 05-04-2016 01:32 PM

Re: Is stealth eBay your full time job?
 
[QUOTE=phaz0rz;768221]
Where I'm from it's VERY easy to find an unemployed person who will fill orders all day for $150/week.
QUOTE]




daaam cheap labor :d

phaz0rz 05-04-2016 01:39 PM

Re: Is stealth eBay your full time job?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dealagreeproceed (Post 768223)
daaam cheap labor :d

It's a really simple job, lol

glacier922 05-04-2016 01:55 PM

Re: Is stealth eBay your full time job?
 
Full time for me. Love it. I was actually lucky that I got hit with a violation the first month I did some business. Now, thanks to this forum, I'm pretty good at the stealth ways, and let's just say at the moment I make about 3 times more than someone who has what's considered a "decent" job. But I wouldn't want to stop here, Sky is the limit.

Play 05-04-2016 03:13 PM

Re: Is stealth eBay your full time job?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by phaz0rz (Post 768221)
I'm married to my full-time helper, and my part-time helper has absolutely no desire/motivation/knowledge to start a business. So I'm not too worried about them stealing business secrets, lol.

See that helps, to have your other half fully engrossed in the 'day to day handling of packages'. It lays the pressure of you and you can trust she wont start something up out of the blue

On the whole - nice to hear everyone's opinion. I guess it was just paranoia on my part:lol:

glacier922 05-04-2016 06:38 PM

Re: Is stealth eBay your full time job?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by yankee (Post 768169)
Very few people are motivated to work for themselves. Also very few people have funds to invest.

I would say 1 in several thousand people have the desire, mentality and ability to do it.

Heck, I have worked with several members on this site that don't have what it takes.

This is a good thing, it means that there would be several thousand people working under people like us. I have lost many "friends" simply by saying the most basic logic, such as, buy low sell high, you make money. It's really crazy actually.

rsot 05-04-2016 08:49 PM

Re: Is stealth eBay your full time job?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by glacier922 (Post 768325)
This is a good thing, it means that there would be several thousand people working under people like us. I have lost many "friends" simply by saying the most basic logic, such as, buy low sell high, you make money. It's really crazy actually.

Lost friends?

zenohki 05-05-2016 02:42 AM

Re: Is stealth eBay your full time job?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rsot (Post 768361)
Lost friends?

I can understand this, I have two friends who went into business together, one started undercutting the other. Money ruins people.

Never work with family and or friends, some people are very lucky like phaz0rz, but I have found that generally they are the worst people to work with. My brother let me down hugely on my website and then fell out with me big time when I made my own, full on blocked on facebook and everything. Ha!

My other half is wonderful in that he wants to help, but I can't let him. He hasn't got the eye for detail that I have, I wouldn't want to spend my time getting frustrated with him and making him feel like he'd done something wrong.

I decided a long time ago it's not worth me expanding to the point of hiring staff or helpers, I'd actually lose money and become a manager rather than a creator which I never want to happen, being management sucks.

GreenBean 05-05-2016 05:06 AM

Re: Is stealth eBay your full time job?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JamesNorth101 (Post 768202)

I find it a bit weird to be honest when someone has the opportunity to make a good solid living working for themselves instead chooses to work a 9 to 5 job because working for themselves seems like 'too much hard work'

They do not trust themsleves to do something different.

Ergo, they stick to 9 to 5 because it is safe.

:croc:

HAHlala 05-05-2016 06:21 AM

Re: Is stealth eBay your full time job?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by zenohki (Post 768410)
I can understand this, I have two friends who went into business together, one started undercutting the other. Money ruins people.

Never work with family and or friends, some people are very lucky like phaz0rz, but I have found that generally they are the worst people to work with. My brother let me down hugely on my website and then fell out with me big time when I made my own, full on blocked on facebook and everything. Ha!

My other half is wonderful in that he wants to help, but I can't let him. He hasn't got the eye for detail that I have, I wouldn't want to spend my time getting frustrated with him and making him feel like he'd done something wrong.

I decided a long time ago it's not worth me expanding to the point of hiring staff or helpers, I'd actually lose money and become a manager rather than a creator which I never want to happen, being management sucks.


This sounds like me haha, I employed my brother part time but I also have an eye for small details and like things to be done exactly as I want them and he is the opposite. Its hard to try and not get frustrated but I'm trying my best :shhh:

HAHlala 05-05-2016 06:25 AM

Re: Is stealth eBay your full time job?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GreenBean (Post 768424)
They do not trist themsleves to do something different.

Ergo, they stick to 9 to 5 because it is safe.

:croc:

I've actually had someone I know tell me to 'Get a real job' (this person works in a fast food restaurant I should add), some people just have the mindset that the only type of job is 9-5 and anything else isn't real work. If only they knew..

zenohki 05-05-2016 06:27 AM

Re: Is stealth eBay your full time job?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HAHlala (Post 768436)
I've actually had someone I know tell me to 'Get a real job' (this person works in a fast food restaurant I should add), some people just have the mindset that the only type of job is 9-5 and anything else isn't real work. If only they knew..

Haha, all my friends joke about me being an unemployed bum. :lol:

GreenBean 05-05-2016 06:28 AM

Re: Is stealth eBay your full time job?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HAHlala (Post 768434)
This sounds like me haha, I employed my brother part time but I also have an eye for small details and like things to be done exactly as I want them and he is the opposite. Its hard to try and not get frustrated but I'm trying my best :shhh:

We sorted that by having the brother Despatch Chief and bottle washer. (Not actually bottle washer ;) ).

He does the packaging after payment. Suits him because he has a bevy of females in assorted Post Offices in the North West of the UK. He has an allowance for gifts to give his ladies....

Working to date as he is better kept away from customers. Lacks some basic polite skills, if you get my drift but we have few delivery issues.

:bounce:

HAHlala 05-05-2016 06:33 AM

Re: Is stealth eBay your full time job?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GreenBean (Post 768438)
We sorted that by having the brother Despatch Chief and bottle washer. (Not actually bottle washer ;) ).

He does the packaging after payment. Suits him because he has a bevy of females in assorted Post Offices in the North West of the UK. He has an allowance for gifts to give his ladies....

Working to date as he is better kept away from customers. Lacks some basic polite skills, if you get my drift but we have few delivery issues.

:bounce:

haha this is my brothers job now too, packaging and buying the labels. Easy enough for him and he's 16 so doesn't mind working for a few £ an hour.

HAHlala 05-05-2016 06:40 AM

Re: Is stealth eBay your full time job?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by zenohki (Post 768437)
Haha, all my friends joke about me being an unemployed bum. :lol:

Mine too! I've had many comments over the years from different people, use to annoy me but now I couldn't care less

zenohki 05-05-2016 07:29 AM

Re: Is stealth eBay your full time job?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HAHlala (Post 768445)
Mine too! I've had many comments over the years from different people, use to annoy me but now I couldn't care less

I know from my friends its a jealousy thing, I make more money than them and suffer much less stress, it bothered me occasionally when they implied I don't work hard but the bf has reassured everyone that I turn into a monster at peak sales times.

HAHlala 05-05-2016 08:03 AM

Re: Is stealth eBay your full time job?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by zenohki (Post 768453)
I know from my friends its a jealousy thing, I make more money than them and suffer much less stress, it bothered me occasionally when they implied I don't work hard but the bf has reassured everyone that I turn into a monster at peak sales times.

Yeah definitely a jealousy thing, but I mean I'm only just 21 and about to buy myself a range rover from money I've made on eBay, website etc. But apparently I sit around at home all day and do nothing :heh:

rsot 05-05-2016 08:27 AM

Re: Is stealth eBay your full time job?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HAHlala (Post 768464)
Yeah definitely a jealousy thing, but I mean I'm only just 21 and about to buy myself a range rover from money I've made on eBay, website etc. But apparently I sit around at home all day and do nothing :heh:

Brand new or used...

Play 05-05-2016 08:36 AM

Re: Is stealth eBay your full time job?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rsot (Post 768465)
Brand new or used...

Thats beyond the point.

Anyone working 9 to 5 at that age would be working at McDonalds or Primark (UK guys know about this). They aren't in any position to be buying vehicles. The closest they get would be a battery operated Range Rover remotely controlled vehicle.

rsot 05-05-2016 08:42 AM

Re: Is stealth eBay your full time job?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Play (Post 768466)
Thats beyond the point.

Anyone working 9 to 5 at that age would be working at McDonalds or Primark (UK guys know about this). They aren't in any position to be buying vehicles. The closest they get would be a battery operated Range Rover remotely controlled vehicle.

It's all a matter of view :) and it's just a passing inquiry on the status.

Range Rover is a wicked vehicle.

yankee 05-05-2016 08:57 AM

Re: Is stealth eBay your full time job?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Play (Post 768466)
They aren't in any position to be buying vehicles. The closest they get would be a battery operated Range Rover remotely controlled vehicle.

Are you serious?

Pretty much every person I know buys a car at age 16 in the USA. 18 At the absolute latest.

HAHlala 05-05-2016 09:08 AM

Re: Is stealth eBay your full time job?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rsot (Post 768465)
Brand new or used...

Haven't actually decided yet, went to a few Land Rover garages and had a look at both the new and used ones they had, the used ones were still new-ish and looked just as good.

zenohki 05-05-2016 09:09 AM

Re: Is stealth eBay your full time job?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by yankee (Post 768470)
Are you serious?

Pretty much every person I know buys a car at age 16 in the USA. 18 At the absolute latest.

Depends on the family and the person really, I have some friends who got their first car at 17/18, and I know some 30 year old's who still don't have a driving licence.

To be able to buy a Range Rover at 21 from self employed earnings is a fantastic achievement, it's really nice to see people who take the leap into the unknown and land with olympic gymnast style flair. I know too many people who hate their job or don't earn enough to live, and yet they think that the 9-5 is the only answer. It's a shame when someone can't see the cage they trap themselves in.

HAHlala 05-05-2016 09:12 AM

Re: Is stealth eBay your full time job?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by yankee (Post 768470)
Are you serious?

Pretty much every person I know buys a car at age 16 in the USA. 18 At the absolute latest.

In the UK you can start learning to drive at 17 and most people if they even get a car at all will have their parents buy it for them as most people at that age are still in school and don't work yet. Most of my friends don't drive and the ones that do have cars that cost between £350-£1000. Minimum wage for my age and under in the UK is around £5.60 I think? Could be wrong but thats what most people are making an hour over here so its not great.

MM78 05-05-2016 09:51 AM

Re: Is stealth eBay your full time job?
 
This thread reminds me of an old thread, "Do your family know what you sell"?

Play 05-05-2016 10:14 AM

Re: Is stealth eBay your full time job?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by yankee (Post 768470)
Are you serious?

Pretty much every person I know buys a car at age 16 in the USA. 18 At the absolute latest.

I didn't mean if they own a car, was being sarcastic. Was saying if they do drive, they drive cars which have low insurance costs + low fuel costs etc., basically motors that have a sole purpose of going from A to B, not worth bragging about.


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