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Bonanza smarter than ebay,Bonanza just suspend me
 

Hello everyone,

I just got shocked by Bonanza. Here is my story:
I have two bonanza accounts, one legit account and one stealth account.
Recently I focus on running my ebay accounts,not much time to take care my bonanza accounts.
Last month my stealth account was suspended because of owing seller fee.And I let this stealth go.
But I could not log in my legit bonanza since last week,then I contacted bonanza why I could not login .

I got rely from Bonanza who told me my another account owes seller fee and mention my ID of stealth account. I am shocked when reading this email.
How could they know my stealth account? It is impossible to link these two accounts. I run accounts strictly according to ebay stealth rules.

Also I am running multiple ebay accounts and no any problems.

I do not care my bonanza accounts but wondering how they can definitely know that stealth account is mine. Does bonanza smarter than ebay?

Thank you for any advice

Re: Bonanza smarter than ebay,Bonanza just suspend me
 

Maybe they have browser fingerprints on it, but since bonanza is so small compared to eBay/Amazon, no one would notice.

Re: Bonanza smarter than ebay,Bonanza just suspend me
 

you slipped up somewhere. there are a lot of stea.lthers here operating on Bonan.

Bonan may parrot EB in many instances, but will never have the same resources.

Re: Bonanza smarter than ebay,Bonanza just suspend me
 

It is wired. I only have two accounts, no reason to link.
Even though I made some mistake somewhere(maybe similar selling items), I do not think Bonanza could be so confident to claim that stealth account is mine. No question, Just said you need to pay seller fee of your another account in the email.
I will keep figuring out what is wrong. Maybe I will reply why they say that account is mine.

Thanks guys

Re: Bonanza smarter than ebay,Bonanza just suspend me
 

James Lee, how did you get in touch with them once your account was suspended because I cant even log into my account at all. When I try to go to contact it says I need to log into my account but I cant log in? The only thing I can think of why my account was cancelled was because some monster beats headphones I had for sale but this are 1000% legit with the receipt showing I bought these last Christmas for my son at Best Buy..so this is a proven legit product and you would think they would contact me first before deleting my account.

Re: Bonanza smarter than ebay,Bonanza just suspend me
 

I just email to support@bonanza.com and state my situation.
I think I have same problem as yours,I could not login at first.
I do not think they delete your account for these headphones you sell. It seems they should contact you or delete your listing first.
My problem is that I did not pay my seller fee for my stealth account,but I do not know why these two accounts linked

Re: Bonanza smarter than ebay,Bonanza just suspend me
 

I had the same thing :

Hi,

Our system recently notified us that a computer used to access your account has been associated with other accounts that have been suspended on Bonanza due to violation of our terms of service (User Agreement - Bonanza).

We apologize that we are unable to provide further details about the other account(s) involved with this action. In our efforts to keep Bonanza the safest possible marketplace for our buyers and sellers to use, it is our mandate to be proactive in suspending accounts that have been associated in any way with site misconduct. We understand that it may not have been your specific actions that caused this suspension to occur (for example, if other family members logged into your account), but we choose to err on the side of caution in matters of user safety.

If you have any transactions that were in the midst of being processed, please let us know at your earliest convenience and we will be happy to assist you in getting those transactions completed and processed. It is our policy not to notify other users of our suspensions when possible. We strive to keep this matter as private as possible to preserve your reputation on Bonanza.

If you have any further questions, please see our terms of service, which provide complete details about our user policies, including our right to suspend an account at any time.

If you are interested in moving to another marketplace, we recommend ioffer.com or ecrater.com, both of which have strong monthly traffic and a good base of buyers and sellers. eBid.net is a good site for those who wish to deal in the auction format.

We sincerely apologize for any inconvenience this may have caused you.
Let us know if you have any other questions.

Regards
Judy O

Re: Bonanza smarter than ebay,Bonanza just suspend me
 

What methods are you guys using to keep everything separate?
- Separate User Accounts?
- VMWares?
- Portable Browsers?
- Changing IP?

Re: Bonanza smarter than ebay,Bonanza just suspend me
 

Same thing happened to me. I have a 100% legit account, and a US stealth account. Both got suspended due to non paying fee (vcc not enough funds). for stealth account, I used 23vc IP, VMware, vcc, and US paypal account linked. Bonanza system is smarter than I thought.

I try again to register new account but was suspended as well. I used all the stealth ways (vmwares, new stealth ip, vcc, new stealth paypal acc) to create but no success.

can anyone have any idea where I slip up? or anyone willing to sell their bonanza account? msg me

Re: Bonanza smarter than ebay,Bonanza just suspend me
 

you said it yourself...you didnt pay your fees.

Re: Bonanza smarter than ebay,Bonanza just suspend me
 

I don't know whether to laugh or take this serious....Read what you just said:

Re: Bonanza smarter than ebay,Bonanza just suspend me
 

it's not that I purposely not paying them fee, is that they randomly make a charge to your card without telling you (even when you are sleeping). And when they can't charge your card, they suspend you. As this is stealth US account, I have no choice but to use a US based vcc for that account, it is not reloadable. And mind you, if I was awake, I would have pay them using my paypal.

back to my questions, even with stealth tactics, bonanza still can detect and link your accounts.

Re: Bonanza smarter than ebay,Bonanza just suspend me
 

Getting banned on Bonanza reminds me of the line from 8 Mile: "Pff, he got fired from a pizza place".

Re: Bonanza smarter than ebay,Bonanza just suspend me
 

Bonanza don't know their arse from their elbow, although they are sharpening their game a bit more these days

Re: Bonanza smarter than ebay,Bonanza just suspend me
 

Yes.....if you don't follow stealth, yes they can....so can ebay,PayPal, Amazon, Etsy. So the moral of the story is, Follow Stealth Rules and you will be fine.

Re: Bonanza smarter than ebay,Bonanza just suspend me
 

BTW I made an a$$ load on Bonanza today :bounce:

Re: Bonanza smarter than ebay,Bonanza just suspend me
 

Like White Girl a$$ or Black Girl a$$?

Re: Bonanza smarter than ebay,Bonanza just suspend me
 

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Re: Bonanza smarter than ebay,Bonanza just suspend me
 

they've been like that for years. no surprise to anyone but you. pay your fees like an adult

Re: Bonanza smarter than ebay,Bonanza just suspend me
 

Bonanza sucks, I was doing quite well, until one idiot decided to open a dispute and then they shut me down completely. I would like to open a stealth account eventually but how do you do that since they ask for your cc info and they"ll know its you from your name? any ideas? anyone ever tried this?

Re: Bonanza smarter than ebay,Bonanza just suspend me
 

Almost exactly the same as making a stealth Ebay, if you know how to make one of those

Re: Bonanza smarter than ebay,Bonanza just suspend me
 

you dont get shut down from one complaint. nice try n00b

Re: Bonanza smarter than ebay,Bonanza just suspend me
 

Welcome to the forums - stealth will serve you well to learn :thumb:

unkown's reality check is on to something though - 1 dispute shut you down? There's more here than meets the eye...

Re: Bonanza smarter than ebay,Bonanza just suspend me
 

Things actually sell on Bonanza? Looking at the site it reminds me of IOFFER. Looks like you might sell one item a year if you undercut the eBay price.

Re: Bonanza smarter than ebay,Bonanza just suspend me
 

You have to use two different PCs or at least have a virtual machine in the same PC because if you used the same PC for the two accounts they see the cookies in your pc that are the same.

Re: Bonanza smarter than ebay,Bonanza just suspend me
 

Sounds like Bonanza is more like amazon. But are they really worth it to use?

THey don't seem to have great traffic at all. Someone here told me he is doing well on it, but not for me and most it seems.

Re: Bonanza smarter than ebay,Bonanza just suspend me
 

I am pretty sure different user accounts would still effectively bypass this issue.

Re: Bonanza smarter than ebay,Bonanza just suspend me
 

Keep in mind that Bonanza has a fraction the number of accounts eBay does. For this reason alone, it's much easier for them to link/associate accounts with each other. It's simple math. Another thing, it's well known Bonan is much more diligent (and agressive) in smacking down accounts for a so-called "violation" than ebay would.

They very well may also be employing some of the detection techniques (such as browser fingerprinting/canvas) that Amazon is known to use. This can be combated with using a good VM setup, profile tools such as Multilogin, or a browser such as Stealthfox/Antidetect, etc.

Aside from that, it's important to try and prevent what gets one suspended in the first place. PAY YOUR FEES, don't sell foo-foos, scam others, and be a good boy. It's really that simple.

One last thing. All too often someone here will claim they read and follow the Stealth Guide techniques to the "T" but often leave something out. There have been times I was "positive" in my mind I did everything correct, even though accounts still got linked. After further checking, re-checking, and thinking about it more, I always found something I had overlooked. We all make mistakes, so don't leave this option out.

Re: Bonanza smarter than ebay,Bonanza just suspend me
 

I have been selling on Bonanza for 10Yrs Pretty successfully. Its where I get most my Google sales 85%

Re: Bonanza smarter than ebay,Bonanza just suspend me
 

What do you mean by "google sales" ?

You use google adwords to promote your bonanza listings?

Re: Bonanza smarter than ebay,Bonanza just suspend me
 

I use Webstore Broadcaster. brought in 32,000 visitors in last 60 days. Cost me $33.77

Re: Bonanza smarter than ebay,Bonanza just suspend me
 

Bonanza has low traffic - when has anyone seen a Bonanza ad in google shopping, seriously ? Also the booth fees are high. I list on Ecrater, and they have free google advertising as well as paid Google advertising.

My monthly fees on Ecrater are between $20 and $40 - super low compared to having an Ebay shop or Bonan booth

Re: Bonanza smarter than ebay,Bonanza just suspend me
 

You say that, but not everyone can afford to always have money in thier account.
I was on here reading about Bonanza, was considering trying them out.
I am one who cannot afford to always have money in my bank and not knowing when my fees will be taken would throw me off as well.