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spookycloud 03-14-2009 09:00 PM

Why cant you use paypal to pay your ebay fee's?
 
Everytime I make a new ebay account as I sell something on there it makes me add my paypal email in order to have the listing confirmed.So since its linked am I able to just pay my fee's through ebay?

GreenBean 03-15-2009 01:12 AM

Yes BUT. Have a read of this thread:http://www.aspkin.com/forums/ebay-di...do-safely.html

Like it is suggested, I pay my fees with NO tie to a paypal account. That makes one less problem of linking ever.

spookycloud 03-15-2009 09:08 AM

But im confused doesn't it make you link your account before you post an auction because it tells me to add my paypal email to receive payments before I list an auction.

idiotbay 03-15-2009 09:13 AM

Yes, i have the same problem, i have to link a verified paypal to list, i have always paid my fees with paypal. But i think credit card is an option

NO ID 03-15-2009 12:02 PM

OK - you add your paypal address to ebay so that you get paid through paypal. But when it comes to paying ebay's fees, dont link your paypal to ebay to pay them automatically.

chostin 03-18-2009 01:07 PM

just set credit card (gift card) to your automatic way of paying ebay fees.... NOT paypal

I learned this the stupid way when ebay tried taking fees automatically out of PP then automatically tried pulling to my bank account linked to that paypal account.

There wasn't enough money in it and it bounced - but caused chargeback fee in my bank account of $40 or something. And it might have tried a second time automatically, can't remember.

I just use gift card as the automatic method, let it decline.... let it try and second time and decline.... then re-enter it or another gift card.. buys a few more days/week or so and then let the account die and move on to the next backup account.

Freedom 03-18-2009 02:22 PM

Don't pay EBay fees with paypal. As to why... I'm assuming it gives paypal more knowledge about your activity. Even a good account I wouldn't pay fees with paypal.

Here We Go Again 03-18-2009 05:28 PM

And away we go.......

STEP 1 - Read my Original Post: http://www.aspkin.com/forums/ebay-di...do-safely.html

But you ask.... WHY??????

In order to sell on eBay 90% of us MUST link a verified Paypal to our eBay account....
We all know this.
eBay does this so that they can check your identity.
They use your Identity Information from Paypal to check the identity.

IF you do pay your eBay fees with your Paypal accounts here is what can happen:

Version 1:
If you set your eBay account to automatically pay its fees with your Paypal account you will lose.
If your account goes NARU eBay will STILL attempt to collect their outstanding fees through Paypal.
But you were smart and kept your Paypal account empty.... Right?
Paypal will pay eBay and your account will go into the negative.
Now your Paypal account is in the negative.
Your Bank account that is attached to this Paypal account will get hit by Paypal for its outstanding balance.
But you were smart and kept that Bank Account empty of funds.... Right?
So when Paypal attempts to get their money there is none there.
You have now been hit with a over-draft fee by your bank. Somewhere between $10 and $40.
Paypal will keep doing this to you account in order to recover their funds.
Sometimes up to 5 times before they stop... If they do.
Each time you get hit with a over-draft fee.
Now your Bank Account is in the negative. BAD NEWS for you because your account is in your REAL NAME.
Now you have to pay the bank.
All of this could have been avoided by just paying your eBay fees with a Pre-Paid Credit Card.


Version 2:
If you just pay your fees with Paypal and do not have it set for automatic withdraw.
If your account goes NARU eBay can STILL attempt to collect their outstanding fees through Paypal.
Because that is your base payment method of choice.
eBay will attempt to charge your Paypal account for any and all outstanding fees when you account goes NARU.
Just the same way that they would attempt to charge your credit card you have on file for these outstanding fees.
See above for the finishing steps you have to deal with.

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You have also provided eBay with another direction to link you.
If the information in your Paypal account does not match your eBay information that is bad.
If you make a mistake and pay from the wrong Paypal account that is REALLY bad.
But the entire idea behind the "Stealth Account" is to provide eBay with no information aside from the minimum required.
If you pay your eBay fees with your Paypal account you are adding to your eBay information file and that is not good.
Do not link your Paypal Financial Information to eBay.
The less eBay knows the better off you are.

Now if you would have NEVER paid eBay with Paypal none of these things could ever happen.
I am not saying that they will happen every time a account goes NARU.
I am not saying that it will happen to 1 out of 10 accounts.
The above listed scenarios could happen to you... And have happen to me before in the past.
Remember the only advise that I post are situations that have happened to me in 1 way or another in my eBay history.

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The above information has been added to my original post in order to keep the information flow coherent.

aking 03-18-2009 10:10 PM

As for your identity information. your paypal and ebay information should be the same anyway, so what does that have to do with anything? AND when you link your ebay to paypal, doesnt that already open the door to ebay and paypal to share information? I dont know. I still dont understand the reasoning behind not being able to pay your fees with your paypal.

lakeman 03-18-2009 10:15 PM

Aking, I was thinking the same thing.

If being charged over draft fees for your bank was the problem then you could just close the bank account as soon as it got suspended.

I also don't see the reasoning for not linking them. There must be a good reason because many people say don't do it, I just haven't read it or found it yet.

aking 03-18-2009 10:16 PM

I cant be the only one that doesn't understand this. Am I? LoL

I just dont understand y ebay cares how you pay your fees, just as long as they are getting paid. Thats like me complaining to a tenant of mine that I dont like how he is paying his rent. WHO CARES, as long as the rent is paid and on time.

aking 03-18-2009 10:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lakeman (Post 79587)
Aking, I was thinking the same thing.

If being charged over draft fees for your bank was the problem then you could just close the bank account as soon as it got suspended.

I also don't see the reasoning for not linking them. There must be a good reason because many people say don't do it, I just haven't read it or found it yet.


Lakeman, you HAVE you have your ebay linked to a paypal account or you wont be able to sell. You may be able to list one or 2 things, but then they will hit you with the message saying you must link your paypal and ebay to list anything else. Its just their verification process.

eBay and Paypal are also the same company anyway, so thats all the more reason y it shouldnt matter. I dont understand it, but I still dont pay my ebay fees with paypal, lol. Just b/c so many insist that you not do this.

lakeman 03-18-2009 10:39 PM

So many people say don't link them, is this a new requirement to have to link them?

John14789 03-22-2009 12:09 AM

I always pay my ebay fees with paypal. Smart thing to do is if you get the ebay invoice then go to the bank and close the account and ditch the paypal and ebay account. They can't get the money if the accounts closed. Works all the time.

GreenBean 03-22-2009 12:19 AM

What is so smart about closing bank accounts all the time? talk about making extra work for yourself. Waht a waste of time and bank account.LOL

John14789 03-22-2009 12:22 AM

Well I use the bank accounts to the max in transfers to the account. Not that big of a hassle since I'm at the bank getting the money honey every day! LOL

Here We Go Again 03-22-2009 12:24 AM

I have realized a few things from my months and months on this forum.
When a easy way to solve a problem is given to the forum members 65% refuse to use it.
They prefer to discover the hardest most difficult way to solve a problem and go with it.

I consider these types "Disinformation Distributors".

I see them on this forum EVERYDAY in many different forms.
Sometimes it makes me think that they are all the same person with different Forum Accounts.

Here We Go Again 03-22-2009 12:25 AM

John14789...

Why have you refused to post your country flag?


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John14789 03-22-2009 12:30 AM

I just posted what I do.

I donnntttt know how to do sooo the flag configury thingy!

Here We Go Again 03-22-2009 12:34 AM

^^^^^^^
Click on the "USER CP" link at the top left of any page on the Forum
Then follow this link on the top of the left hand column.

"Edit Your Details"

GreenBean 03-22-2009 12:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aking (Post 79586)
As for your identity information. your paypal and ebay information should be the same anyway, so what does that have to do with anything? AND when you link your ebay to paypal, doesnt that already open the door to ebay and paypal to share information? I dont know. I still dont understand the reasoning behind not being able to pay your fees with your paypal.

Yes paypal can be used for fees. No one has said it can not be used. it has been suggested by several that a safer way for our stealth accounts is to use another method. Therefore it is just as easy to pay by gift card, money order.
Avoiding paypal is ONE LESS Link. We had a post by brendaleigh who told us that her new accounts were suspended. Why? Because she used an old paypal account to pay fees for her new accounts. Poor thing wasted her hard work for the sake of miserable ebay fees: if she had choosen a different means, no link

John14789 03-22-2009 12:36 AM

All done mister.

John14789 03-22-2009 12:37 AM

If you use a stealth account I say sell like gangbusters and ditch the fees!

GreenBean 03-22-2009 12:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John14789 (Post 79987)
I just posted what I do.
I donnntttt know how to do sooo the flag configury thingy!


It is not a matter of just posting what you do. It is the way you always hiint that your way works the best. Just your style I am trying to say:peace:

John14789 03-22-2009 12:42 AM

I wasn't trying to imply my way works best. I was simply offering an opinion .

Here We Go Again 03-22-2009 12:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John14789 (Post 79991)
If you use a stealth account I say sell like gangbusters and ditch the fees!

Maybe so but wouldn't you RATHER that eBay account work for more than 2 months?
Maybe a year or longer?

GreenBean 03-22-2009 12:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John14789 (Post 79993)
I wasn't trying to imply my way works best. I was simply offering an opinion.

:peace:

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I think that I have figured out why I had 5 accounts suspended. A few days ago I paid my eBay fees. I went back and looked at the transactions and found that I had paid with the PAYPAL account I used with the old suspended eBay account. How stupid is that??? I have been so careful to be in the right User Account and I keep a running tab of IP addresses so I am pretty sure that this isn't what caused my suspensions. Especially, since the IP I used with my old suspended eBay account is gone. I reset the modem that I used exclusively with that account and I got rid of all cookies on the Firefox browser too. This is the only way they could have found me. Also, it cannot be just a coincidence that the accounts I paid fees on got suspended. The thing that surprises me is that they made the connection so fast. It hasn't been more than 3-4 days since I paid these fees. They made the connection and suspended all my accounts in 3 days. Doesn't that seem fast?
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boondoggle 03-22-2009 03:58 AM

LOL, obviously if you pay with a PayPal account thats linked to a suspended eb8y account its gonna result in suspension, but if you use a different PayPal account with each Eb8y account thats fine, right? Or am I missing something?

lakeman 03-22-2009 04:03 AM

Yes, you would use a different paypal for each Ebay account if you don't want them linked. But after discussing this topic before and now again it has been said its not a good idea to pay Ebay fees with Paypal.

Stealth Man 03-26-2009 11:15 AM

I use paypal on 30 accounts with bank accounts...They did the with draw through ebay fees which then pulled the over due disputed amount in the paypal account also.........Will paypal pull disputed funds WITHOUT having to go in there for ebay fees???????????? They didnt until ebay pulled it last time (for ebay) fees. I asked this on the vip board no replys........What am I paying for this subscription for......Not to scourer through all these post everyday..I would like to get an ansewr every once in a while.You know get what you pay for???????

Lyda 03-27-2009 10:29 PM

Sometimes people appear as if they are writing posts a little tipsy..LOL, so it's hard to understand what are they trying to say (grammar, spelling etc. ). This is hilarious!

I do enjoy reading what HWGA has to say because he'll always be right to the point and he backs up everything he says with common sense. So, I learned a lot from him. It's up to you guys to read it with clear heads, put your manly egos aside and than just take it or leave it...:peace: :yar:

brokebackebay 03-29-2009 01:13 PM

But if I don't link a bank acct to my PayPal acct where people are sending their payments, how the heck to I actually get to my money? Can't get a debit card since the PP acct isn't in my name or attached to my real address. Am I missing something here? Other than obviously using a merchant acct., which I do, but don't REQUIRE buyers to use it yet on my seller accounts with fb below 100.

Here We Go Again 03-29-2009 01:26 PM

^^^^^^^^
Where did anyone ever say anything about not having a bank account linked to a Paypal account?
This is a MUST to have a verified Paypal account.

dburnside 11-21-2009 07:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John14789 (Post 79979)
I always pay my ebay fees with paypal. Smart thing to do is if you get the ebay invoice then go to the bank and close the account and ditch the paypal and ebay account. They can't get the money if the accounts closed. Works all the time.

you dont need to close the account just close the dd to paypal

GreenBean 11-21-2009 07:24 PM

^^^don't worry about that poster. He got a DearJohn letter :rolleyes:

it seems to be a US thing to close a bank account rather than cnxl the DD. Dunno why. Maybe the Boston Tea Party? :noidea: :peace:

jbluntz 11-21-2009 07:58 PM

Another thing you can do is just close your bank account after you get suspended which is what I did and now I've got 2 ebay and paypal acounts in the negative.

Yaz 02-13-2010 06:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GreenBean (Post 79989)
Yes paypal can be used for fees. No one has said it can not be used. it has been suggested by several that a safer way for our stealth accounts is to use another method. Therefore it is just as easy to pay by gift card, money order.
Avoiding paypal is ONE LESS Link. We had a post by brendaleigh who told us that her new accounts were suspended. Why? Because she used an old paypal account to pay fees for her new accounts. Poor thing wasted her hard work for the sake of miserable ebay fees: if she had choosen a different means, no link

Can you accept receiving money from customers using old paypal but add new email address? pay ebay fees with a new credit card or gift card?? will that work?

jbluntz 02-13-2010 11:49 PM

Obviously if you use a paypal account with different info from your ebay to pay your fees that can lead to problems but if you use the paypal that has the same info as your ebay and gift card and make a one time payment for your fees without linking then that should work just as well, It's what I do on all mine, much easier than having to buy giftcards all the time.

ThinkTank 03-26-2010 01:07 PM

Ok, people might get annoyed at me always asking the REAL account question, but does this thread pertain to us that still have the real account in effect. Do I have the same worries as the stealth accounts about linking ebay with paypal? More or less I just want my paypal fees paid automatically (one less worry each month) and I'd like my customers to get an "item shipped" email whenever I pay with paypal. Sorry, I know this site is meant mainly for stealth, but since I sell some "not so retail" products I always have the caution of being suspended any day.

So... main question... do I have the same worries of linking my ebay with paypal if I'm not worried about any info being linked, etc..?

sorry, I meant ebay fees paid automatically, not paypal

MtnDew 06-23-2010 06:44 AM

:yar:nevermind...lol i searched and found my answer.

im assuming its safe though to go and unlink auto pay from paypal and just put on the credit card that was already there to verify my ebay and then just pay with the new gift card that i get when im ready to pay with my new one?


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