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Here's the vid on Microsoft walking back on totalitarian DRM policies 6 years ago:


If ebayers actually do something about it such as...not sign up for MP when they ask and move on to the next account, cause an uproar, something, maybe we can stop MP on it's tracks like gamers did for Microsoft.
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If ebayers actually do something about it such as...not sign up for MP when they ask and move on to the next account, cause an uproar, something, maybe we can stop MP on it's tracks like gamers did for Microsoft.
Most ebayers are in favour of managed payments.
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A lot of people might not like dealing with eBay but they tend to like dealing with PayPal even less
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Most ebayers are in favour of managed payments.
Until they get suspended for life with no second chances
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A lot of people might not like dealing with eBay but they tend to like dealing with PayPal even less
PayPal when done right, skies are the limits.
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Until they get suspended for life with no second chances
That absolutely tiny number of low grade sellers is neither here nor there. Ebay will be glad to see the back of a certain kind of seller - 'stealthers' is the name I think they go by.
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That absolutely tiny number of low grade sellers is neither here nor there. Ebay will be glad to see the back of a certain kind of seller - 'stealthers' is the name I think they go by.
Shome Mishtake Shurely!!!

I understood stealthers were essential to Ebays bottom line? ((At least that's the impression I get from reading some of the posts on here)

Are you saying I have misunderstood it?
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I must admit, I have never had any problems with Paypal, only with Ebay. I would prefer to keep things the way they are but unfortunately to survive in business, you must constantly adapt to the environment. I'm sure Managed Payments will be easy to work around.

I personally think Ebay are only clamping down on Stealth accounts because of pressures from outside sources, If they really wanted to get rid of stealth accounts it probably wouldn't be that difficult. I find it odd that their security has so many flaws, and every time they bring in a new security measure, they always seem to leave a back door open for us. I mean think about, their security is designed and implemented by professionals, yet a bunch of retailers on an internet forum are somehow always able to stay one step ahead!! And they can literally come here and read how we do it!

Don't get me wrong, I don't think Ebay would suffer without us, but I think they like the extra money either way. No business in the world has ever said "we have enough money now, please stop sending us more"

Either that or their IT department were all dropped on their heads at birth or something! Especially when you compare Ebay security to Amazon Security!
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Essential! I've read on here that ebay will fold without them.

Managed Payments is a great idea, ebay know it, sellers know it.

As D-Day get ever closer lets wait for the inevitable 'who will boycott ebay until they fold' poll.

Okay, there's a few sellers, who will be financially worse off but maybe the program will be tweaked as it matures.
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That absolutely tiny number of low grade sellers is neither here nor there. Ebay will be glad to see the back of a certain kind of seller - 'stealthers' is the name I think they go by.
Considering we are on a stealth forum, I wouldn't have thought that you think that way.
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Considering we are on a stealth forum, I wouldn't have thought that you think that way.
Having read an awful lot of the posts I cannot help but be intrigued at the entitlement and exceptionalism some posters display

We do need to understand we are a very very small band, all playing in our own world, and mostly making fundamental mistakes that are easily identified by Ebay

As an Executive member I would imagine you have seen boatloads of these and I would be surprised if you did not share to some degree the cynicism expressed
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PayPal when done right, skies are the limits.
Definitely my friend definitely I used about 15 pp s acc.
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Considering we are on a stealth forum, I wouldn't have thought that you think that way.
What?? You think it wrong of me to assume ebay want rid of low grade accounts from stealthers.
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Default Re: Remember: Microsoft giant monopoly reversed DRM policy, MP could too if...

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No, I think it's wrong of you to think you are completely immune from ebay's wrath just because you think you yourself is some goody too shoe seller that only sell the high quality stuff, and because of that, you will NEVER EVER get suspended. We've seen how that story played out over and over on this forum. So instead of being all gung ho for this one account for the rest of our lives state of mind, try and offer some solutions.

Did you not see the other thread where one of the members here had their MP accounts suspended? Now what's he going to do?

Here is the thread by the way:

https://www.aspkin.com/forums/us-man...suspended.html

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Calm down, I never said I was immune. Like everyone else I will have to see how it pans out.

Maybe it is the death of stealth as we know it. I'm sure it is, but there's nothing I can do about that is there?

Maybe folk will just have to start and treat their accounts with a bit more respect. TBH, if its the death of the smash-and-grab sellers then I for one wont be complaining.
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I do think stealth is going to have to unwind a bit - years ago it was not at all easy to create multiple accounts and I think the situation that currently exists on Etsy and Amazon will become the norm

Stealthers are going to have to develop a different mindset

It will happen, of that I have no doubt, but the information needed to operate under stealth conditions will not be bandied about as it is now

This managed payments system is just another step on the road - whatever lock one person can make another person can make a key - for sure though the whole modus operandi will have to change
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Most ebayers are in favour of managed payments.
yes this is true , it is going to make things easier for them , except if for someone got suspended for no proper reason and using a stealth account just to be able to continue selling on ebay
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Calm down, I never said I was immune. Like everyone else I will have to see how it pans out.

Maybe it is the death of stealth as we know it. I'm sure it is, but there's nothing I can do about that is there?

Maybe folk will just have to start and treat their accounts with a bit more respect. TBH, if its the death of the smash-and-grab sellers then I for one wont be complaining.
i do agree with you ,
i really hope something good happens that fix this whole thing
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