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amysol 04-15-2021 12:06 PM

How to do stealth now with Managed Payments???
 
I have been selling on ebay for 20 years. My best account was just indefinitely suspended. Due to stealth, IMO you need a real person, name, ID and SSN.

I have run out of people to use for this. Also, even if I get a new friend to agree, it ****s up their taxes, because they get a 1099 from ebay, and they will need to 1099 that money to me. I would have to do their taxes for them etc etc.

What to do now?

Short of spending $200+ for a new LLC with an EIN for each ebay account, and $150 per year to sustain the LLC, has anyone figured out any other way?

Please HELP! Single mom here, I gotta keep the ebay sales alive.

phaz0rz 04-15-2021 12:30 PM

Re: How to do stealth now with Managed Payments???
 
Multiple LLCs seem to be the only way short of ID theft. You can form your LLC's in a different state where the fees aren't so high. Where I am it's a one time $110 fee with no annual reporting or fees. It's not something I've done but there's info online about it.

lymbo70 04-15-2021 02:03 PM

Re: How to do stealth now with Managed Payments???
 
At what point does ebay issue the 1099? is it still 20k +200 transaction?

aspkin 04-15-2021 11:48 PM

Re: How to do stealth now with Managed Payments???
 
Which state provides the cheapest LLCs?

rsot 04-16-2021 03:27 AM

Re: How to do stealth now with Managed Payments???
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by aspkin (Post 1149477)
Which state provides the cheapest LLCs?

http://www.llcuniversity.com/llc-annual-fees-by-state/

haohigh 04-16-2021 06:26 AM

Re: How to do stealth now with Managed Payments???
 
Can you register LLC from out of state for ebay purpose tho?

phaz0rz 04-16-2021 06:47 AM

Re: How to do stealth now with Managed Payments???
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by haohigh (Post 1149518)
Can you register LLC from out of state for ebay purpose tho?


Yes. Tons of eBay sellers already use out of state LLC's from places like Nevada and Delaware because they have favorable state tax laws.

Legalzoom makes it easy but it's probably something you could do yourself with a bit of research and legwork.

yankee 04-16-2021 07:40 AM

Re: How to do stealth now with Managed Payments???
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lymbo70 (Post 1149425)
At what point does ebay issue the 1099? is it still 20k +200 transaction?

Come January 1st, 2021, it is $600 flat. No transaction number, just at $600

ebaystealth1974 04-16-2021 09:16 AM

Re: How to do stealth now with Managed Payments???
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by amysol (Post 1149411)

Short of spending $200+ for a new LLC with an EIN for each ebay account, and $150 per year to sustain the LLC, has anyone figured out any other way?

If $150 a year, after the initial $200, is going to hamper your profits, you might need to look into doing things a little differently. Or something different, altogether.

phaz0rz 04-16-2021 09:33 AM

Re: How to do stealth now with Managed Payments???
 
Why pay it if it's not necessary though?

ebaystealth1974 04-16-2021 04:41 PM

Re: How to do stealth now with Managed Payments???
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by phaz0rz (Post 1149537)
Why pay it if it's not necessary though?

Are you offering up, or saying there is a way to obtain an LLC/EIN without paying? If not, I don't get the gist of your post. :confused:

cherrqell 04-17-2021 02:37 AM

Re: How to do stealth now with Managed Payments???
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by yankee (Post 1149526)
Come January 1st, 2021, it is $600 flat. No transaction number, just at $600

This is gonna cost the 3rd party processing companies a fortune to send out all those 1099's.

Plus, doing this will just incentivize people to cheat more on their taxes.

This is just going to overwhelm the IRS, making them more incompetent than they already are.

Mr. Invisible 04-18-2021 01:54 AM

Re: How to do stealth now with Managed Payments???
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ebaystealth1974 (Post 1149534)
If $150 a year, after the initial $200, is going to hamper your profits, you might need to look into doing things a little differently. Or something different, altogether.

What do you do for LLC address? Local forwarding address in LLC state or real address?

agent006140 04-18-2021 09:42 AM

Re: How to do stealth now with Managed Payments???
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cherrqell (Post 1149670)
This is gonna cost the 3rd party processing companies a fortune to send out all those 1099's.

Plus, doing this will just incentivize people to cheat more on their taxes.

This is just going to overwhelm the IRS, making them more incompetent than they already are.

third party processors have all our activities on computer and will just crank out 1099s ,if you dont want a hard copy mailed to you,so much better to save postage,if it costs too much,it would just raise our fee.
Why would people cheat more on taxes just because both them and IRS got a copy ?That extra $600 is not going to make dent on our taxes,as small business has so much to deduct and selling on EBAY is not exactly wildly profitable for most sellers.

agent006140 04-18-2021 09:47 AM

Re: How to do stealth now with Managed Payments???
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by amysol (Post 1149411)
I have been selling on ebay for 20 years. My best account was just indefinitely suspended. Due to stealth, IMO you need a real person, name, ID and SSN.

I have run out of people to use for this. Also, even if I get a new friend to agree, it ****s up their taxes, because they get a 1099 from ebay, and they will need to 1099 that money to me. I would have to do their taxes for them etc etc.

What to do now?

Short of spending $200+ for a new LLC with an EIN for each ebay account, and $150 per year to sustain the LLC, has anyone figured out any other way?

Please HELP! Single mom here, I gotta keep the ebay sales alive.

can you cut down on the number of Ebay seller accounts?
It must be nice to have friends who would lend you their SSN and not complain getting a 1099K in their name?
If any of them ever get an audit,it could drag you into the scene!

agent006140 04-18-2021 09:49 AM

Re: How to do stealth now with Managed Payments???
 
have you considered using your own name,ssn,dob ?
ebay does not collect our SSN back then when Paypal takes care of that.

phaz0rz 04-18-2021 10:11 AM

Re: How to do stealth now with Managed Payments???
 
What a wild series of posts.

aspkin 04-18-2021 12:15 PM

Re: How to do stealth now with Managed Payments???
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ebaystealth1974 (Post 1149597)
Are you offering up, or saying there is a way to obtain an LLC/EIN without paying? If not, I don't get the gist of your post. :confused:

DBA + Free EIN on IRS website can be had in a few minutes.. but you only get one personal EIN last I checked.

It cost money opening LLCs and other corps and upkeep money, etc. LLCs can be expensive.

aspkin 04-18-2021 12:16 PM

Re: How to do stealth now with Managed Payments???
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Invisible (Post 1149808)
What do you do for LLC address? Local forwarding address in LLC state or real address?

If you get an LLC out of state you're required in most cases to have a local forwarding agent. If you open an LLC online usually there are package deals that include this and more like virtual number, mail scanning and forwarding, etc.

beatingebay 04-18-2021 04:25 PM

Re: How to do stealth now with Managed Payments???
 
I have been on chat with ebay for 2 hours, almost every department I have spoken to about MP and SS#. People there is simply no way around this. They will restrict your account later down the road. LLC is fine, But the reps all said you must verify your bank and SS#. No one is getting out of this! He said they are not allowing anything/ Ebay is in total control. There so many more sites. I closed my stealth account from 15 years ago. It been fun, but I see no answers

mjgo 04-18-2021 08:55 PM

Re: How to do stealth now with Managed Payments???
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by aspkin (Post 1149884)
DBA + Free EIN on IRS website can be had in a few minutes.. but you only get one personal EIN last I checked.

It cost money opening LLCs and other corps and upkeep money, etc. LLCs can be expensive.

I changed 1 of my personal stealth to business as DBA but could only use SSN not EIN. To use EIN I would have to have LLC or Corp. This was last month

amysol 04-19-2021 02:19 PM

Re: How to do stealth now with Managed Payments???
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by yankee (Post 1149526)
Come January 1st, 2021, it is $600 flat. No transaction number, just at $600

I would assume this is correct as this is the national tax law. If I make, for example, 599 or less baby sitting, I don't need to claim it on my tax returns. However, $600 or over, I do. So I never understood how paypal got away with $20,000 in the first place.


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